Burnt Taste on AGA-T+

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I got my AGA-T+ in the mail today and set it all up. Got it vaping better than my ZAP, but now it's not doing well. All of a sudden I have this burnt taste, but the juice is wicking perfectly. I'm using 32AWG Kanthal on 500 mesh.

What could have happened between 2PM and now (8PM)?
 

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a short my friend. take out some juice or if there is not much in there tilt the wick away from juice. get it to where you can dry out the wick to do a dry burn, you will then see a hot spot, nudge the coils around till they glow nice again. the 32g wire is unstable, it can expand and contract a little. sometimes if your wick is twistable, you can just try to twist it slightly around, this also might eliminate a hot spot due to a frey in the wick, try this first, if this does work then do the dry burn thing i mentioned. good luck
 

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a short my friend. take out some juice or if there is not much in there tilt the wick away from juice. get it to where you can dry out the wick to do a dry burn, you will then see a hot spot, nudge the coils around till they glow nice again. the 32g wire is unstable, it can expand and contract a little. sometimes if your wick is twistable, you can just try to twist it slightly around, this also might eliminate a hot spot due to a frey in the wick, try this first, if this does work then do the dry burn thing i mentioned. good luck


Doing that now. No hotspots, and I'm using a ProVari, so no shorts detected. I notice that my deck is getting quite hot when I fire it for a while.
 

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Check the tension. The wire being too tight of too loose can cause the burnt taste. The wick touching the pos post can cause the off taste also.

I think it may be a bit tight. Interesting. I got the burnt taste out by doing a dry-burn as vapdivrr suggested. Oddly enough though, my juice now has no flavor. LOL.
 

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I think it may be a bit tight. Interesting. I got the burnt taste out by doing a dry-burn as vapdivrr suggested. Oddly enough though, my juice now has no flavor. LOL.

when i feel im shorting i just pull the wick up past the coils and do a juice burn to put a little more oxidation on it. that's how tight my coils are wrapped just enough friction to slide around.
 

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your wick isnt to high and touching the inside of your top cap? sometimes this creates some heat. other then this i would have to say that overall the coils can be to loose on the wick, this could of happened after the wires axpanded after the initial set up. the loose coils also will create over heating. i would recoil a little tighter. if you fire up your genny without the top cap on, with a full tank of juice vertically your coils shouldnt glow, if they do glow, then they could be to loose.
 

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What voltage and resistance are you running? A lot of times the extreme wattage just doesn't work out, especially for certain juices. I actually wind up vaping most of gennys around 8-10 watts. Also, I highly recommend drilling out the wick hole on the AGA, it can help prevent any burning taste that can happen with really long drags (I know there are people that are fine with theirs stock, just giving my personal experience). I also heard pbusardo talking about enlarging the wick hole in his recent AGA videos. Another thing, did you boil the wick before using it? I soak mine in dish soap and then rinse them THOROUGHLY. Then I boil them twice in distilled water. If there is any machine oil left on the SS it will make stuff taste funky.

This video inspired me to do the wick hole enlarging: aga-t with enlarged wick hole comparison - YouTube
 

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your wick isnt to high and touching the inside of your top cap? sometimes this creates some heat. other then this i would have to say that overall the coils can be to loose on the wick, this could of happened after the wires axpanded after the initial set up. the loose coils also will create over heating. i would recoil a little tighter. if you fire up your genny without the top cap on, with a full tank of juice vertically your coils shouldnt glow, if they do glow, then they could be to loose.

+1 on that. If you used the petar K method it is highly likely your coils are too loose.
 

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your wick isnt to high and touching the inside of your top cap? sometimes this creates some heat. other then this i would have to say that overall the coils can be to loose on the wick, this could of happened after the wires axpanded after the initial set up. the loose coils also will create over heating. i would recoil a little tighter. if you fire up your genny without the top cap on, with a full tank of juice vertically your coils shouldnt glow, if they do glow, then they could be to loose.

Nope not at all. It's actually quite small compared to what I'm used to on the ZAP. I torched the wire before wrapping to make sure any expansion was done first. Full tank and no cap produces no glow, as it should be, and it seems to be wicking perfectly. The burnt taste is gone but I'm not really getting any taste at the moment.

What voltage and resistance are you running? A lot of times the extreme wattage just doesn't work out, especially for certain juices. I actually wind up vaping most of gennys around 8-10 watts. Also, I highly recommend drilling out the wick hole on the AGA, it can help prevent any burning taste that can happen with really long drags (I know there are people that are fine with theirs stock, just giving my personal experience). I also heard pbusardo talking about enlarging the wick hole in his recent AGA videos. Another thing, did you boil the wick before using it? I soak mine in dish soap and then rinse them THOROUGHLY. Then I boil them twice in distilled water. If there is any machine oil left on the SS it will make stuff taste funky.

This video inspired me to do the wick hole enlarging: aga-t with enlarged wick hole comparison - YouTube

ProVari reads 2.2 Ohms and I'm running 4.0 volts. Didn't boil the wick, but I did rinse it in some water, and then of course I oxidised it with a blowtorch. I figured the 3600F flame from the torch would get rid of any unwanted chemicals, no? :p

+1 on that. If you used the petar K method it is highly likely your coils are too loose.

Didn't use Petar's method. Wrapped by hand right on the wick.
 
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