Buying cigarettes VS E-cigs

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freeall

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Yeah, many people talking about how expensive certain things are in the ecig world. I get it, it's not a cheap hobby.

Now, how much do you pay for cigarettes? How much do you spend on them? How much is a carton in your city or town. Where I live a pack of smokes is 14 bucks , or $80+ for a carton. Now, if you're a pack a day smoker, then how can one talk about how expensive somthing is? You do the math. You could spend 2-3 hundred dollars on the top of the line pv's on the market and be set for quite awhile, or you can blow your money on cigarettes.

It's pretty hard to justify spending money on smokes when you can ultimately spend so much less on somthing that will last you much longer.

2+2 =4

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Here's an eye opener, I live in the state that was THE former native american reservation in the U.S. in the 1800s, so we get CHEAP smokes here (NA owned smoke shops, no Fed taxes on tobacco or something). I smoked generics and it cost me $35 a carton, lasted me about a week. Marlblow here is $50 a carton or so. vaping on the other hand, I've spent 13 dollars in 2 weeks for two bottle of juice that I'll have at least 2 or 3 weeks....justified.

Not to mention it tastes, smells, feels WAY better as well.
 
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As discussed *many* *many* times on here. Not everyone has $300 sitting around to lay out for the *upfront* costs of switching to e-cigs. Yeah it sucks. A lot of people live paycheck to paycheck, week to week. It's often easier to find 6 bux a day to buy a pack than even $80 bucks for a basic starter kit.
 

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i was a 3 pack a day smoker and i got the cheap of the cheap 305 cigars $1.06 but add that up and it was still $22.26 a week. well to add up what i spent in the last 2 weeks i have spent more on vaping but know when i get all i want i will be spending about $20 a month when done. last 2 weeks about 150 spent and my mom keeps asking me where i am saving. i tell here when i get all my goodies it will be about 30 a month at the most. moms are such a pain when the live next door to you lol
 

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As discussed *many* *many* times on here. Not everyone has $300 sitting around to lay out for the *upfront* costs of switching to e-cigs. Yeah it sucks. A lot of people live paycheck to paycheck, week to week. It's often easier to find 6 bux a day to buy a pack than even $80 bucks for a basic starter kit.

It really doesn't take that much, my girlfriend got started for $70 bucks. From then on it's just finding juices you like and not going crazy....like I did. Still, now I have a stock and if I quit buying now, could go for months on what I have. And that's about a quarter of my cost on cigs.

I guess it's been discussed *many* times though, so just my 2 cents.
 
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Wow, $14 a pack is a lot. In New Hampshire, I could get cartons for around $60, though I think they've gone up recently.

I had been smoking Drum (RYO) for years. It's $35/tin -- which would last me about a month. So I've spent about six or seven times more on vaping (for my first 2 months) than I did on tobacco in the two months before I started vaping, though in the long run, vaping will cost less (perhaps substantially) since I'm done (I think) buying hardware now, and I have about 2-3 months of juice stocked up. I plan on winding my own coils, and maybe DIYing juice at some point. Batteries, wick and resistance wire are all pretty cheap. Literally pennies per month.

I did make sure to buy plenty of stuff initially, and am probably all set now on hardware for about a year (my backups have backups), maybe more. It was an investment. Money well spent, and I now have a new hobby to boot!
 

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As discussed *many* *many* times on here. Not everyone has $300 sitting around to lay out for the *upfront* costs of switching to e-cigs. Yeah it sucks. A lot of people live paycheck to paycheck, week to week. It's often easier to find 6 bux a day to buy a pack than even $80 bucks for a basic starter kit.

Well I guess if you simply have no money at all, than you probably shouldnt be smoking, nor vaping for that matter. I just always get a kick out of people that come on here and say everythings so expensive, all while in the same breath, say they've smoked for years on end.

Why buy a high end car if you cant afford the maintenance costs.
 

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It really doesn't take that much, my girlfriend got started for $70 bucks. From then on it's just finding juices you like and not going crazy....like I did. Still, now I have a stock and if I quit buying now, could go for months on what I have. And that's about a quarter of my cost on cigs.

I guess it's been discussed *many* times though, so just my 2 cents.

$70 isn't chump change to some. That's 2 weeks of cigarettes at 6 bux a pack. Some people get paid weekly.

No one is arguing against the idea that vaping *can* be cheaper if you do it carefully. But to say that people aren't switching because of costs and comparing the potential savings from there is insulting. Upfront costs and return on investment are separate things.
 

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Well I guess if you simply have no money at all, than you probably shouldnt be smoking, nor vaping for that matter. I just always get a kick out of people that come on here and say everythings so expensive, all while in the same breath, say they've smoked for years on end.

Why buy a high end car if you cant afford the maintenance costs.

Guess what? We're addicts. Addicts do what they have to do to get their fix.
 

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$70 isn't chump change to some. That's 2 weeks of cigarettes at 6 bux a pack. Some people get paid weekly.

No one is arguing against the idea that vaping *can* be cheaper if you do it carefully. But to say that people aren't switching because of costs and comparing the potential savings from there is insulting. Upfront costs and return on investment are separate things.

I find most people don't switch because they don't even know about vaping, think it's bs (because they refuse to try it), or are ignorant to the facts (we're huffing anti-freeze). I think that most smokers, if given a decent PV and just one juice choice that rocks, would switch over in a heartbeat, despite the cost. Then, be set for saving more in the long run by not going crazy on juices, mods, parts, etc. It CAN BE a very cheap hobby, I'm sure of it. I'm rich by no means, and it only took me a conscience effort for about 3 weeks straight that I was going to quit smoking and tackle vaping head on to get off cigs. I guess many factors play out in an individual, mine was harm reduction and it's worth every penny.
 
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Well, in defense of the people complaining about the high-cost of vaping, or smoking for that matter, smoking *is* kind of a compulsion, and it's extremely difficult for some people to "just stop". Smoking is a form of self-medication, and some people do genuinely need it to continue to function well. There was of course the initial choice to start smoking, but most 1-2PAD smokers after 20-30 years can't readily just stop because they lost their job, or their financial situation otherwise changed for the worse -- and that kind of an event usually has the effect of increasing emotional stress dramatically, making stopping smoking even more difficult. Though I do know people who quit cold turkey successfully, in fact, before vaping, that's the only way I've ever heard about someone stopping smoking permanently.

I am by no means wealthy, however I was fortunate enough to consider smoking a luxury (and I indulge in very few). I consider vaping to be even more of a luxury than smoking, since I like it more, and if it ends up costing the same, or a little more, or a little less, that's not really an issue for me.
 

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$70 isn't chump change to some. That's 2 weeks of cigarettes at 6 bux a pack. Some people get paid weekly.

Yes but folks don't even have to spend that much to get started really.

A Kgo kit with 2 batteries 2 LR atomizers a charger plus a 30 ml bottle of juice can be had for around 55 bucks and after that it's just juice costs which can be quite inexpensive.


Once somebody has a couple Kgo's with atomizers they are GOOD to go.
That's only the cost of 5 packs of smokes here in NY and a 30 Ml bottle of juice is easily 5 packs of smokes.
 

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I find most people don't switch because they don't even know about vaping, think it's bs (because they refuse to try it), or are ignorant to the facts (we're huffing anti-freeze). I think that most smokers, if given a decent PV and just one juice choice that rocks, would switch over in a heartbeat, despite the cost. Then, be set for saving more in the long run by not going crazy on juices, mods, parts, etc. It CAN BE a very cheap hobby, I'm sure of it. I'm rich by no means, and it only took me a conscience effort for about 3 weeks straight that I was going to quit smoking and tackle vaping head on to get off cigs. I guess many factors play out in an individual, mine was harm reduction and it's worth every penny.

Yes but folks don't even have to spend that much to get started really.

A Kgo kit with 2 batteries 2 LR atomizers a charger plus a 30 ml bottle of juice can be had for around 55 bucks and after that it's just juice costs which can be quite inexpensive.


Once somebody has a couple Kgo's with atomizers they are GOOD to go.
That's only the cost of 5 packs of smokes here in NY and a 30 Ml bottle of juice is easily 5 packs of smokes.

I was more less comparing the costs between the two, and how smoking is not cheap by any stretch, yet people target ecigs as so expensive. Uneducated people have ignorant opinions I guess.

It is what it is.

Tell ya what, next time I have a coworker that just gets by week to week is interested in switching, which one of you will be the one that puts up their upfront costs for a kit and some juice?
 

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I find most people don't switch because they don't even know about vaping, think it's bs (because they refuse to try it), or are ignorant to the facts (we're huffing anti-freeze). I think that most smokers, if given a decent PV and just one juice choice that rocks, would switch over in a heartbeat, despite the cost. Then, be set for saving more in the long run by not going crazy on juices, mods, parts, etc. It CAN BE a very cheap hobby, I'm sure of it. I'm rich by no means, and it only took me a conscience effort for about 3 weeks straight that I was going to quit smoking and tackle vaping head on to get off cigs. I guess many factors play out in an individual, mine was harm reduction and it's worth every penny.

x2.

Of course quiting smoking is a hell of alot harder than just buying a provari and start vaping. ( though, myself included, I disagree) I do think it's that easy. Then again, if you're uneducated about somthing specific like this, then it's a lost cause really. "blah blah, "too much money", 'too stupid', "batteries"? atomizers? the list goes on...


Blame it on the costs!

brb, smoking a cigarette...:glare:
 
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