BWB E-Joker and RY4

[Vaprasticator]

I want to begin by saying that overall, I am a huge fan of Don's juices. I recently got a 30ml of each of the highly sought after E-Joker and RY4. They are not bad juices, but I do have to say after all the hype I am a little bit disappointed. The fact is, these are incredibly unique juices with flavors that are hard to pinpoint.

The E-Joker, as described contains elements of light cinnamon and light menthol on top of "something else." I realize the experience of any juice is a subjective one. The "something else" is a somewhat rich flavor, at least by comparison to orchard frost, which if I may be so bold, I would call a cousin of E-Joker. I find that my palate strongly prefers orchard frost to E-Joker. Increases in voltage definitely bring out the menthol and the richness and mute the cinnamon a bit. I have tried it at 3.7v, 5v, and 6v on my box mod as well as various settings on my buzz pro.

The RY4 was not at all what I had expected. Previously I had tried many of the RY4s mentioned in the roundup. This one was nothing at all like any of them. I get no caramel or vanilla from this juice. The richness of it actually seems oddly similar to the richness in the E-Joker. There is some sweetness to it for sure, but I find it very difficult to articulate the flavors present.

I will definitely continue to let these steep and update this if anything changes, but as of this moment, I don't think I will re-order either of these rare gems of the vaping world. I see these 30ml bottles lasting longer than they probably should. There are quite a few backwoods juices that I will re-order though. As a vendor I think they are in my top 5 for sure.

 

[nuggetz]

I agree with you on the BWB. I had super high expectations. First let me tell you I do like. I like Boba's Bounty and Havana Gold from AVE.

I was hoping BWB's RY4 was close to Boba's and it was totally different. Not that it is marketed as being like Boba's or anything else for that matter. Since I didn't get any vanilla or caramel from it I was sort of turned off because I really didn't know what it SHOULD taste like. Definitly got some cedar-like notes and it very much reminded me of the couple of flue cureds I've tried in which I'm not a fan of. Nonetheless, I'll still hang on to it and see what it tastes like a month from now. I have mixed it with Copper Creeks House Blend which is very caramel/maple/vanilla tasting and to me that's what I thought the RY4 would have tasted like straight away.

 

[DJ_Kalee]

Don't worry you're not alone, I've tried a few BWB blends myself, and didn't care for them that much. I thought they were amazing, unique very thought out blends but just not for me. That's what's been delaying me from pulling the trigger everytime E-Joker and RY4 are available. I would rate Don towards the top of vendors for customer service and juices. Just not my thing.

 

[EleanorR]

My understanding of BWB's RY4 is that it requires significant steeping, as in at least 2 months. Hang on to it!

As for E-Joker, that juice has been discontinued by BWB (supply chain problems), but many people LOVE it. Therefore, if after another month or so, you still don't care for it, you'll have no trouble at all selling it on the Classifieds -- it will be a Collector's Item.

 

[ipetbumblebees]

BWB RY4 has a very distinctive vanilla flavor, but as EleanorR said, it needs to be steeped in order to bring out the full flavor. After four or five weeks it's a whole different beast.

 

[lasttango]

It's more of an authentic vanilla than a sweet vanilla... I get very dominant vanilla tones from it steeped or unsteeped... but I knew what to look for when I first ordered it.
The vanilla component is unique and somewhat exclusive to BWB...
Rule with the RY4 is the longer it steeps, the more the caramel and vanilla come out.
I like the ry4 more in the first 3 weeks ;-)

 

[ipetbumblebees]

It's more of an authentic vanilla than a sweet vanilla... I get very dominant vanilla tones from it steeped or unsteeped... but I knew what to look for when I first ordered it.
The vanilla component is unique and somewhat exclusive to BWB...
Rule with the RY4 is the longer it steeps, the more the caramel and vanilla come out.
I like the ry4 more in the first 3 weeks ;-)

The only thing I don't like about RY4 early on is the brightness of it. I'm just starting to vape it now after the 3 week mark and it still has, what I've described on accident as a Melonbacco taste. Lol, I know it may sound strange, but have you noticed the fruity aspect to it early on? It's completely gone after a month or so, but is very prominent to me in the first few weeks. The first time I ever had RY4, it was my first time vaping Melonbacco as well, and I swear as I was vaping it I thought I had accidentally filled my RY4 carto with Melonbacco. I was so angry at myself for mixing them that I got out the RY4 bottle, dripped it on my atty, and sure enough, it tasted like Melonbacco. And it definitely wasn't an off-batch or anything like that because in a few weeks it was gone and I fell in love

Definitely agree that the vanilla is more of an authentic vanilla; there's nothing candy-like about it at all. That's one of my favorite aspects of BWB RY4, and one of the main components that sets it apart. I'm really hoping that in Don's new RY4 reformulation he's able to keep using the same vanilla. I'd be pretty bummed if it was the secret ingredient he can't get anymore...

 

[Moen81]

Hey guys. Any idea when their site will be back on? running low on malty.

 

[Mr.Mann]

Hey, I am trying to let all those that don't like BWB RY4 to hold on to it! If you still don't like it, you can definitely sell it...to me

 

[Namgic]

Hey, I am letting all of you know who have let it steep and it is not your thing to please PM me. I am willing to take it off your hands for a PREMIUM!!!!!!

I fell in love with it after my first bottle(only could keep it around for 2 weeks even trying to horde it). Fortunately I scored another bottle on Don's last offering.

I know it is not like any other RY4's, but it is a legend and I understand why.

EJoker is fantastic and can help me to avoid my cravings for RY4 but I have no idea what I will do when the both run out in a few weeks, these 2 will be missed by many I am sure!!!!!

JW

 

[bjorken]

I'm a total newbie vaper, and was lucky to get a bottle of bwb ry4 in the last batch. Although I've vaped very few juices (maybe 10 total), I gotta say I'm loving this one. I haven't steeped it, so maybe I don't know what I'm missing, but I do taste elements of tobacco, caramel, and vanilla, as many describe.

I'm still struggling with the fruity flavors. I suppose my palette may evolve.

 

[kademic]

Help! Help! Help! I haven't been vaping long, but found a juice i love. Been trying to get my dad off analogs, with no luck, till i happen to get a bottle of BB RY4 and he put the anologs down till he had vaped the whole bottle. Now back to the analogs. Could anyone recommend any flavor, from Don or anywhere else, that is somewhat like bb RY4. Possibly another RY4 or maybe just something you feel i might have a chance of getting him to like.