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On the topic of the P.Busardo Calix video, here are my two cents...

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With no offense meant to Billie, or the ByLeo family, of course...I was flat out surprised Phil even did a review on the Calix. Or Grimm Green.

I would never expect the "big" reviewers to appreciate the fine quality of a device like the Calix...v1 or v2.

These dudes are inundated with cheap, Chinese, high watt, low ohm accidents waiting to happen.

How are they supposed to remember that some people like to vape high quality gear, made from safe and reliable materials, at less than 200 watts...?

I cringed at the attitude Grimm Green showed, with his flippant remarks about "people still mouth-to-lung vape???"...
By the time his review had launched, the Calix v2 had dropped. He may as well have waited, and been able to give a better review.

These big time review guys see so much gear, that nothing is sacred to them. Which is a beneficial side effect for an unbiased reviewer.
What's hard to watch is when these guys start showing a bias towards certain types, styles, or even brands of devices.
Example: Phil has made an obvious switch to Temp Control devices/builds, and now shows that bias when reviewing anything that's NOT a TC device/build.
Sorry Phil, but your reputation as a fair, non-judgmental reviewer has become tainted.

These are the guys people hear about when they start vaping, or Google reviews for devices. The "celebrity" reviewers are "famous" because they get the most exposure. They should wield that exposure with great care.

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I don't know if it's the reviewers, or the manufacturers that are pushing the industry towards the high-watt, low ohm, wide-open-air setups (rebuildable or plug'n'play coil)...but I think it's safe to say it's heading that way.
And as more and more new vapers join us every day, they're getting started off with these kinds of setups. Which means these setups get more exposure, which creates more popularity, more reviews, and the cycle continues.

Some of these new vapers eventually find their way to lower watts, above 1.0 ohm, with tighter airflow...which may seem like a backwards journey to them.
Little do they know it took years for the industry to get to the place they started at.

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So, in closing...
It's a changing world we live in.

1. Would it be nice to see Phil leave his reviews to just one item? Yes.
But he's not breaking any laws. He's breaking respect and credibility boundaries. To start a review of a product, by promoting another product, is disrespectful and waters down his credibility.
People were giving him a hard time about not posting videos soon enough, or covering enough devices. But his current method of pumping one thing before reviewing another is foolish for his image.

2. Would it be nice if he took his time and seemed to fully grasp the capabilities of the devices he reviews? Yes.
But he's gained a certain level of fame from his reviews, and he is starting to become a victim of his own success. His popularity has caused a high demand for reviews from him, which makes him busy, which gives him less time with each device. "Excuses, excuses." Sure. But none of us are him. We can't judge him without knowing his situation.

3. Do these things apply to the rest of the "celebrity" reviewers? Yes.
The best we can do is rely on folks like Sir Qorax, and our own selves, to educate others on devices that aren't cheap Chinese gimmicks, or flash-in-the-pan trends and "phases" in the industry.
Vaping is starting to approach the point where we can safely say there are some tried and true things that just can't be improved upon. I say "starting" because I do believe that temperature control/monitoring/calculating devices will be important in the future, considering all the research being done in regards to how juice reacts at certain temperatures. Temperature devices/methods/materials are not a "phase", but they are FAR from being perfected, or at least "mastered" and standardized.

4. I mentioned Chinese products several times here. The reason for that is: Nothing of quality, in the vaping world, comes from China.
Is that meant as an insult to those who can't afford, or prefer, gear from China?
No.
But with the extreme boom of production in China, and their total lack of safety, material quality control, or even assembly/manufacturing quality control, it's fair to say Chinese gear is far below the quality of many other manufacturers.
On that same note, has anyone ever heard of counterfeits or "clones" being produced in any other country?
Am I biased against Chinese vape gear? Yes. My bias starts with their lawless lust for counterfeiting designs, followed closely by material quality, which is tantamount to end-user safety.
::Standing ovation and cheers::

Well said Sir.. Well said indeed.

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On the topic of the P.Busardo Calix video, here are my two cents...

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With no offense meant to Billie, or the ByLeo family, of course...I was flat out surprised Phil even did a review on the Calix. Or Grimm Green.

I would never expect the "big" reviewers to appreciate the fine quality of a device like the Calix...v1 or v2.

These dudes are inundated with cheap, Chinese, high watt, low ohm accidents waiting to happen.

How are they supposed to remember that some people like to vape high quality gear, made from safe and reliable materials, at less than 200 watts...?

I cringed at the attitude Grimm Green showed, with his flippant remarks about "people still mouth-to-lung vape???"...
By the time his review had launched, the Calix v2 had dropped. He may as well have waited, and been able to give a better review.

These big time review guys see so much gear, that nothing is sacred to them. Which is a beneficial side effect for an unbiased reviewer.
What's hard to watch is when these guys start showing a bias towards certain types, styles, or even brands of devices.
Example: Phil has made an obvious switch to Temp Control devices/builds, and now shows that bias when reviewing anything that's NOT a TC device/build.
Sorry Phil, but your reputation as a fair, non-judgmental reviewer has become tainted.

These are the guys people hear about when they start vaping, or Google reviews for devices. The "celebrity" reviewers are "famous" because they get the most exposure. They should wield that exposure with great care.

------------
I don't know if it's the reviewers, or the manufacturers that are pushing the industry towards the high-watt, low ohm, wide-open-air setups (rebuildable or plug'n'play coil)...but I think it's safe to say it's heading that way.
And as more and more new vapers join us every day, they're getting started off with these kinds of setups. Which means these setups get more exposure, which creates more popularity, more reviews, and the cycle continues.

Some of these new vapers eventually find their way to lower watts, above 1.0 ohm, with tighter airflow...which may seem like a backwards journey to them.
Little do they know it took years for the industry to get to the place they started at.

---------
So, in closing...
It's a changing world we live in.

1. Would it be nice to see Phil leave his reviews to just one item? Yes.
But he's not breaking any laws. He's breaking respect and credibility boundaries. To start a review of a product, by promoting another product, is disrespectful and waters down his credibility.
People were giving him a hard time about not posting videos soon enough, or covering enough devices. But his current method of pumping one thing before reviewing another is foolish for his image.

2. Would it be nice if he took his time and seemed to fully grasp the capabilities of the devices he reviews? Yes.
But he's gained a certain level of fame from his reviews, and he is starting to become a victim of his own success. His popularity has caused a high demand for reviews from him, which makes him busy, which gives him less time with each device. "Excuses, excuses." Sure. But none of us are him. We can't judge him without knowing his situation.

3. Do these things apply to the rest of the "celebrity" reviewers? Yes.
The best we can do is rely on folks like Sir Qorax, and our own selves, to educate others on devices that aren't cheap Chinese gimmicks, or flash-in-the-pan trends and "phases" in the industry.
Vaping is starting to approach the point where we can safely say there are some tried and true things that just can't be improved upon. I say "starting" because I do believe that temperature control/monitoring/calculating devices will be important in the future, considering all the research being done in regards to how juice reacts at certain temperatures. Temperature devices/methods/materials are not a "phase", but they are FAR from being perfected, or at least "mastered" and standardized.

4. I mentioned Chinese products several times here. The reason for that is: Nothing of quality, in the vaping world, comes from China.
Is that meant as an insult to those who can't afford, or prefer, gear from China?
No.
But with the extreme boom of production in China, and their total lack of safety, material quality control, or even assembly/manufacturing quality control, it's fair to say Chinese gear is far below the quality of many other manufacturers.
On that same note, has anyone ever heard of counterfeits or "clones" being produced in any other country?
Am I biased against Chinese vape gear? Yes. My bias starts with their lawless lust for counterfeiting designs, followed closely by material quality, which is tantamount to end-user safety.
very well said HB!
 

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Nicely put there @HBcorpse
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Can someone show me the maximum the 510 extends past the threads? I am hoping to pick up a V2 Cage for use on a mech. And does the V2 Cage come with a drip tip?
Finally got around to it. It will protrude about 1,5mm from the base.
Here's a pic
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I'll start by saying that I absolutely LOVE my calix V2. Got the cage and a bunch of spares because I plan on keeping this atty for a very long time. It is like a tilemahos v2, but better in every respect.

I don't think Phil or Grimm are biased. I just think they have been vaping for a very long time (long time is relative, of course) and that they have their particular preferences which (of course) come out in the videos. Should reviewers let their preferences impact how they approach a review? Of course not. But, is it unexpected? Same response.

There are some criticisms that I would have of the V2. The biggest for me is the airflow. It is really loud and choppy compared to a kayfun v4. It seems to be because of the single airflow intake and the cut of the airflow in the base. The other big one is the length of the screws used to secure leads. Kinda a pain to instal and remove coils without having the screw pop out.

I certainly don't agree with Phil's view of the juice control. Easy to open / close so long as you don't overtighten and the minor adjustments are a boon. And the size of this atty for its capacity is hard to beat!

Lastly, I'd mention that its nice to change it up from time to time and maybe Phil and Grimm should try it. I range from a ravens moon RTA to the Calix v2 with kayfuns and some chinese tanks in between. Variety is the spice of life after all!
 
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...just to say that anyone who takes Grimm as anything other than a comedy show is mislead. He has demonstrated time after time that he knows diddly about vaping. I wonder why anybody even watches his atty reviews. Utterly pointless, uninformed nonsense...Phil should know better..enough said on that...The Calix V1 became my favourite atty and the V2 base has added another dimension. Utterly, completely and undeniably a fantastic device!
 

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...just to say that anyone who takes Grimm as anything other than a comedy show is mislead. He has demonstrated time after time that he knows diddly about vaping. I wonder why anybody even watches his atty reviews. Utterly pointless, uninformed nonsense...Phil should know better..enough said on that...The Calix V1 became my favourite atty and the V2 base has added another dimension. Utterly, completely and undeniably a fantastic device!
Most experienced vapers may find Grimm funny, but new vapers are being sent his way, under the guise that he is "cool" and knows what he's talking about because he reviews a lot of gear.
That's the scary part.
That's the reason a lot of new vapers get a high-watt low-ohm low-quality setup slapped into their hands...because they are being "educated" by trend chasers, and not established users who know which rock solid setups to start them off with.
"Real" vape knowledge isn't cool to the cloud chasing China-mod fan club. They don't care about battery safety, or quality materials, or time spent on R&D.
If it's new, they buy it, and wait for the next celebrity review to tell them what to buy.
I'm currently watching my neighbor and her boyfriend go through this same cycle.
They hear about some new $40 setup and they pounce on it. Use it for two weeks, and then pounce on the next new setup. All while taking their advice from reviewers like Grimm. "Cool guys"...

I've offered them a Provari with a Calix, and a Provari with a Kayfun, and even a Provari with a Kabuki.
But as soon as they found out they were vaping above 1 ohm, and lower than 20 watts...[emoji33][emoji33][emoji33][emoji33]...they handed the devices right back!!!
"We only vape 0.3 sub-ohm at over 50 watts."

They didn't even judge my gear on vape experience. They literally handed them right back after I told them the coil resistance (1-1.2 ohm) and the wattage I fire at (10watts)...before I told them, they seemed to be enjoying the experience. Their focus shifted from "how much clouds?" to "Wow the flavor is really good!"...

Well ok then. Keep burning through juice like there's no tomorrow. Keep sacrificing flavor for clouds. Keep burning through coils and wicks and pre-made coils faster than you can imagine. Your choice.

Maybe some day, the 6 years I've spent vaping, and learning about this industry, watching it evolve...maybe some day that knowledge will be "cool" and these new vapers will want to know about quality gear.

Until then...more ByLeo for ME!!!! [emoji23][emoji23][emoji23]
 

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Most experienced vapers may find Grimm funny, but new vapers are being sent his way, under the guise that he is "cool" and knows what he's talking about because he reviews a lot of gear.
That's the scary part.
That's the reason a lot of new vapers get a high-watt low-ohm low-quality setup slapped into their hands...because they are being "educated" by trend chasers, and not established users who know which rock solid setups to start them off with.
"Real" vape knowledge isn't cool to the cloud chasing China-mod fan club. They don't care about battery safety, or quality materials, or time spent on R&D.
If it's new, they buy it, and wait for the next celebrity review to tell them what to buy.
I'm currently watching my neighbor and her boyfriend go through this same cycle.
They hear about some new $40 setup and they pounce on it. Use it for two weeks, and then pounce on the next new setup. All while taking their advice from reviewers like Grimm. "Cool guys"...

I've offered them a Provari with a Calix, and a Provari with a Kayfun, and even a Provari with a Kabuki.
But as soon as they found out they were vaping above 1 ohm, and lower than 20 watts...[emoji33][emoji33][emoji33][emoji33]...they handed the devices right back!!!
"We only vape 0.3 sub-ohm at over 50 watts."

They didn't even judge my gear on vape experience. They literally handed them right back after I told them the coil resistance (1-1.2 ohm) and the wattage I fire at (10watts)...before I told them, they seemed to be enjoying the experience. Their focus shifted from "how much clouds?" to "Wow the flavor is really good!"...

Well ok then. Keep burning through juice like there's no tomorrow. Keep sacrificing flavor for clouds. Keep burning through coils and wicks and pre-made coils faster than you can imagine. Your choice.

Maybe some day, the 6 years I've spent vaping, and learning about this industry, watching it evolve...maybe some day that knowledge will be "cool" and these new vapers will want to know about quality gear.

Until then...more ByLeo for ME!!!! [emoji23][emoji23][emoji23]

Amen to all of that!! Some people will never learn though. This sub-ohm thing is ridiculous. We dont have to use mechs any more (although nothing wrong with that) and it is possible to blow clouds with high ohm builds if you have the right mod and small degree of understand how vaping works! Can't tell 'em though..they won't accept it regardless...Oh well!
 

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Most experienced vapers may find Grimm funny, but new vapers are being sent his way, under the guise that he is "cool" and knows what he's talking about because he reviews a lot of gear.
That's the scary part.
That's the reason a lot of new vapers get a high-watt low-ohm low-quality setup slapped into their hands...because they are being "educated" by trend chasers, and not established users who know which rock solid setups to start them off with.
"Real" vape knowledge isn't cool to the cloud chasing China-mod fan club. They don't care about battery safety, or quality materials, or time spent on R&D.
If it's new, they buy it, and wait for the next celebrity review to tell them what to buy.
I'm currently watching my neighbor and her boyfriend go through this same cycle.
They hear about some new $40 setup and they pounce on it. Use it for two weeks, and then pounce on the next new setup. All while taking their advice from reviewers like Grimm. "Cool guys"...

I've offered them a Provari with a Calix, and a Provari with a Kayfun, and even a Provari with a Kabuki.
But as soon as they found out they were vaping above 1 ohm, and lower than 20 watts...[emoji33][emoji33][emoji33][emoji33]...they handed the devices right back!!!
"We only vape 0.3 sub-ohm at over 50 watts."

They didn't even judge my gear on vape experience. They literally handed them right back after I told them the coil resistance (1-1.2 ohm) and the wattage I fire at (10watts)...before I told them, they seemed to be enjoying the experience. Their focus shifted from "how much clouds?" to "Wow the flavor is really good!"...

Well ok then. Keep burning through juice like there's no tomorrow. Keep sacrificing flavor for clouds. Keep burning through coils and wicks and pre-made coils faster than you can imagine. Your choice.

Maybe some day, the 6 years I've spent vaping, and learning about this industry, watching it evolve...maybe some day that knowledge will be "cool" and these new vapers will want to know about quality gear.

Until then...more ByLeo for ME!!!! [emoji23][emoji23][emoji23]
Again I clap!
The reason why I have started a campaign against sub-ohming @HBcorpse ;)

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Now I may have missed this, if so apologies but..
@Billie-cig will the nano tank and chimney be available as accessories at some point? I assume they will fit the V1 base so I could blow the dust off that and put it back in use!!
I think the Nano kit is available on the website.

It will fit the V1 base...

Which, by the way, if you're not using that, if be happy to take it off your hands!
 

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I think the Nano kit is available on the website.

It will fit the V1 base...

Which, by the way, if you're not using that, if be happy to take it off your hands!
oops so it is...
now thinking i would need aanother cup, the nano kit and a top cap so might as well just buy a nano complete...

Are you in UK? ;)
 
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