Can an animal get nicotine in their system by inhaling second-hand vapor?

[Xanax]

Im asking this because I'm vaping under my covers and my cat is very interested in the smell trying to get a whiff and I keep pushing her away for obvious cautionary reasons... Now I'm not going to stick her under the covers with me if it's unlikely animals can injest nicotine via secondhand vapor, but I guess it would be good to know how safe I need to be around her, cause I love her to pieces and I'd probably never forgive myself if my vaping caused her harm or death

 

[SuZamme]

Great question. I am wondering the same thing.

 

[Happy Domino38]

Tests conducted on the exhaled vapor show neglible amounts of nicotine that are usually dissipated into the air within inches of your mouth. I vape A LOT around my Doberman, guinea pig AND 6 year old daughter.

 

[Xanax]

Tests conducted on the exhaled vapor show neglible amounts of nicotine that are usually dissipated into the air within inches of your mouth. I vape A LOT around my Doberman, guinea pig AND 6 year old daughter.

How has the guinea held up? How long have you been vaping around those three? Any immediate physical reactions noticeable after exhaling? Maybe I'm being over protective. Haha.

 

[anim8r]

I'm pretty sure no one's tested 2nd hand vapor effects under bed covers ... but, in the tests I've seen, extremely small amounts of nicotine actually escape from a person's lungs. Virtually all of it is absorbed by the e-cig user.

That said, it would depend on whether you do "primer" puffs and how often, since I imagine more nicotine escapes the body in that type of 2nd hand vapor.

 

[ScreamingEagle]

I can't imagine it would be any worse than smoking around a pet, as far as nicotine goes. We don't smoke inside of our house now, but at our old house we always did. My parents smoke in their house as well. My cat buddy had lived in a smoking house his entire life and was 21 when he passed away in Sept 2007.

I was curious about the PG around pets, specifically cats. There isn't much info out there on it, and I found this on wikipedia:
Animals
Veterinary data indicates that propylene glycol is toxic to dogs with a 50% chance of being lethal at doses of 9mL/kg, although the figure is higher for most laboratory animals (LD50 at levels of 20mL/kg).[14]
However, propylene glycol may be toxic to cats in ways not seen in other animals. The U.S. Food and Drug Administration has determined that its presence in or on cat food has not been shown by adequate scientific data to be safe for use. Any such use is considered an adulteration of the cat food and a violation of the Federal Food, Drug, and Cosmetic Act.[15]

I'm very careful to keep the juices in a sealed box so my guys don't get to them, I don't know how much of the exhaled vapor is water and how much is PG.

 

[irwink]

Im asking this because I'm vaping under my covers and my cat is very interested in the smell trying to get a whiff and I keep pushing her away for obvious cautionary reasons... Now I'm not going to stick her under the covers with me if it's unlikely animals can injest nicotine via secondhand vapor, but I guess it would be good to know how safe I need to be around her, cause I love her to pieces and I'd probably never forgive myself if my vaping caused her harm or death

I'm curious. Did you worry this much about your cat when you smoked analogs? I have 2 cats aged 10 and 15. I worry about their health much less now that I'm vaping than I did when I was smoking. No offense, but all these posts questioning safety and health concerns over vaping are amusing coming from former cigarette smokers.

 

[CartHeadMod]

in the morning when I wake up my batteries are all run down and my son's dog seems very hyper....also, someone has finished off a bottle of my favorite liquid.......I am suspicious....

 

[VaporingQueen]

in the morning when I wake up my batteries are all run down and my son's dog seems very hyper....also, someone has finished off a bottle of my favorite liquid.......I am suspicious....

lmao, lay off the booze haha

 

[ScreamingEagle]

One of the reasons that we don't smoke in the house now is because of our cats. We all know that the second hand smoke is bad for them. But what about second hand vapor? We do vape in the house, and the vapor does contain various chemicals. Not nearly as many as cigarette smoke, but chemicals nonetheless.

That being said, since smoking around the cats is out of the equasion, if vaping around the house is negatively affecting their health, we will not vape around them. It's not a question of which is worse, we already know that, it's a question of assuming that something that is safe/better for us is safe for them.

 

[skypilotEd]

I'm sure that your cat is attracted to the PG sweet smell as cats are attracted to antifreeze which is highly toxic to cats. But PG being a food grade product and their exposure is probably in the parts per million I don't really think there is any harm.

 

[Rosa]

I totally get what you're saying irwink. Perhaps the difference is that most animals will make themselves scarce when you smoke, but try to vape around them and they suddenly want you to share some. (FROM WHAT I'VE READ -- I DON"T HAVE ANY PETS)

 

[ScreamingEagle]

Well, they're not all up in my business or anything like that, and they don't seem to be fascinated by the sweet smell of it. And we don't blow right at them or anything. But they're my babies and I worry.

On a side note, BEES are very attracted to second hand vapor. We were working on the deck today, and we actually smoked some analogs just to keep the bees away. One little tiny toot on the Sidesho, and the bees were all over it.

 

[irwink]

At some point something is going to kill both you and your cats as well as myself and my cats. Do you go to extreme measures to filter the air that enters your home to exclude as many pollutants as possible? What do you feed your cats and how well have you researched what the negative short and long tem effects of commercial cat foods are? Do you make sure to brush their teeth? Are you aware of the downside of not doing so? Are your cats regularly vaccinated against all known feline diseases? Do you sterilize their food and water bowls every day? And what about litter box sanitation? The list of possible (and possibly obsessive) precautionary measures is endless. The end result remains that your cats and mine will still eventually die as will you and I. I hate the song but I can't help myself - don't worry, be happy!

 

[NuMoNiC]

Did I miss something? Everything I have read states there is absolutely no second hand effects. Even if there was 0.01 parts per million harmful chemicals in vapor, wouldn't that be absorbed the second I inhale and not passed on to others?
Seems to me that there would be much more harmful chemicals in the everyday city air we breathe.
I cant imagine what i was intaking when i lived in LA!!

 

[Spence]

If vaping is around long enough for numerous studies and trials, there will be conflicting data and cat stats ... don't you suppose?
So, if it concerns you, don't do it.
If it doesn't, do.

 

[Jester357]

I guess my question is, why are you vaping while being completely under the covers? lol I have a Dachshund, and he is extremely attracted to my vapor and often times tries to attack it if I exhale a thick white cloud slowly near him. It's hilarious. He hated my cigarette smoke when we were outside while I was still smoking analogs, although I never smoked in the house. I'm not too worried about vaping around the house though. It's just water vapor, and the minute amount of nicotine in the expelled vapor is harmless. Nicotine by itself in reasonable dosages isn't a dangerous chemical. It's actually extremely similar to caffeine.

 

[Spence]

I guess my question is, why are you vaping while being completely under the covers?

I'm not so sure I want to know, are you?

 

[SuZamme]

I was curious about the PG around pets, specifically cats. There isn't much info out there on it, and I found this on wikipedia:
Animals
Veterinary data indicates that propylene glycol is toxic to dogs with a 50% chance of being lethal at doses of 9mL/kg, although the figure is higher for most laboratory animals (LD50 at levels of 20mL/kg).[14]
However, propylene glycol may be toxic to cats in ways not seen in other animals. The U.S. Food and Drug Administration has determined that its presence in or on cat food has not been shown by adequate scientific data to be safe for use. Any such use is considered an adulteration of the cat food and a violation of the Federal Food, Drug, and Cosmetic Act.[15]

I'm very careful to keep the juices in a sealed box so my guys don't get to them, I don't know how much of the exhaled vapor is water and how much is PG.

This is very interesting. I'm not concerned about the nic in the vaper, it's the pg question with cats I wonder about.

 

[N00bx7]

If you are concerned hold the vape in a few seconds longer and you will let out alot less vapor. Probably more efficient as well..it guess it all depends on absorption rates and such I know absolutely nothing about...