Can an animal get nicotine in their system by inhaling second-hand vapor?

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Hoosier

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If you notice the warnings concerning pets and PG, it has limits on ml/kg. It is also for eating the PG.

How much vapor do you think a 5 pound dog would need to inhale to equal the 100ml of PG that could give a dog an issue? And that dog would have to do that in a day as PG is moved out of the system fairly quickly.

So, if cats are more sensitive, which I don't know that they are, and that 5 pound cat would need to inhale 10ml of PG through vapor in a day to get near the danger point?

There are lots of things that are dangerous. You can even die from drinking too much water. It is the concentrations of things that make them a real danger, not the thing themselves. Look up Phosphoric Acid and what it does to a body. Now look at the ingredients of your soft drink. Same deadly stuff, but bunches of folks drink it every day.

Will your cat get some nicotine, yep, a bit. Will it hurt the kitty? Very unlikely and I am sure the cat will give warning signs long before the danger level is reached. Just like us humans get headaches, hiccups, tummy aches as warning signs of getting too much nicotine well before we get close to the OD levels.

Unless you live in a sealed bubble with your pets, they will be getting small doses of quite a few toxic chemicals everyday. Some are natural, some are manufactured, but there are toxic substances everywhere.

It would make a good subject for a test kind of trial though, but I have no idea who would fund it.
 
If you notice the warnings concerning pets and PG, it has limits on ml/kg. It is also for eating the PG.

How much vapor do you think a 5 pound dog would need to inhale to equal the 100ml of PG that could give a dog an issue? And that dog would have to do that in a day as PG is moved out of the system fairly quickly.

So, if cats are more sensitive, which I don't know that they are, and that 5 pound cat would need to inhale 10ml of PG through vapor in a day to get near the danger point?

There are lots of things that are dangerous. You can even die from drinking too much water. It is the concentrations of things that make them a real danger, not the thing themselves. Look up Phosphoric Acid and what it does to a body. Now look at the ingredients of your soft drink. Same deadly stuff, but bunches of folks drink it every day.

Will your cat get some nicotine, yep, a bit. Will it hurt the kitty? Very unlikely and I am sure the cat will give warning signs long before the danger level is reached. Just like us humans get headaches, hiccups, tummy aches as warning signs of getting too much nicotine well before we get close to the OD levels.

Unless you live in a sealed bubble with your pets, they will be getting small doses of quite a few toxic chemicals everyday. Some are natural, some are manufactured, but there are toxic substances everywhere.

It would make a good subject for a test kind of trial though, but I have no idea who would fund it.

I didnt know hiccups were a symptom of nicotine OD. I guess that would explain my frequent hiccup bouts after a smoke break at work.

And I'm in agreement about the small amount of vapor an animal will ingest second hand. If they ate the liquid though, the nicotine would most likely kill them before the chemicals in the PG would.

One concern I've been having is the added amount of humidity in the air. I live in AL (Thats Alabama, USA for all you ferners ;) where its already humid and nasty. And there have been times when I have noticed an actual cloud of vapor between me and the tv, so I sometimes worry that I may be shortening the lifespans of all my electronics gear (I'm a geek).
 

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I'm curious. Did you worry this much about your cat when you smoked analogs? I have 2 cats aged 10 and 15. I worry about their health much less now that I'm vaping than I did when I was smoking. No offense, but all these posts questioning safety and health concerns over vaping are amusing coming from former cigarette smokers.

yes actually I worried much more about my cat before when I smoked analogs. I wouldn't let anyone smoke around her and if they did I'd get .......
Im asking not because I'm questioning the safety of vaping. I'm asking because my cat was never a smoker with me and even though vaping may be safe to ME no ones totally sure whether it's safe enough to do around a cat that's very close to your face, and sometimes I forget she's laying on my chest. I'm not bashing vaping at all.
 
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Xanax

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When i was nearly out of e-liquid, cat chewed up my last bottle, and punched holes in it... friken cats.

btw, Hes alive unfortunately.
I have a Jack Russel that I really have to keep my stuff away from because he will eat ANYTHING small enough to fit in his mouth.. Last thing he got into was my little sisters seashell collection. He chewed them up! WTF lol
 

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Geez, Questions like this drive me crazy it just shows how good a job the second hand smoke exaggerations have done at influencing and/or alarming people.
Its not gonna hurt your cat and it's not going to hurt my amazing Border Collie.
PG is used as a skin medication for various animals just ask your vet.

But naturally they should not ingest e-liquid.
 
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thinblueline36

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The only way I can hurt my cat with vaping is if I hit him in the head with my PV. And even then, that only works with the Silver Bullet. When I hit him with my Janty Stick, he just looks at me like I'm weird.

I smoked two packs a day around this cat for all 11 years of his life and he's still going strong. I'd go as far as to say that he went through his own version of withdrawal when I stopped smoking and started vaping. He went off his food for a few days, threw up a a few times, and seemed to be even more of a spaz than normal. Now, however, he's right as rain, even jumping onto shelves and high counters that I thought he'd given up on a couple of years back.

Even if this was hurting the cat, I wouldn't care.

The only thing cats do is prove to us that not everything in the world serves a purpose.

TBL36
 

MsSki

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I have a Cat and she seems fine around my vaping, My Dogs seem fine, My Kids seem fine, My Bearded Dragon he seems fine, the rabbits are fine the only Pets i dont vape around are the birds and i have them in my daughters room where i dont vape at all. But bird have sensitive respitory(sp) issues so i have been told so im not taking the chance

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Yeah birds are different. Miners didn't keep cats or dogs in a mine to alert them to air quality. I don't know if the vapor would hurt them but they are very sensitive to anything but clean air. However I have seen people vape around their pet birds. But they were the larger varieties, like the cockatoo.
Actually now that I think about it I've known a lot of people who smoked around their birds. Back in the fifty's and sixty's there were a lot of clubs and bars with a Casablanca theme. Various birds were scattered around those rooms and it don't get much smokier than that.
 
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