ive tried using different cartomizers and tanks. the way ill do it is ill pour some juice in a little cap and oush the bottom of the carto into it and the juice will come out the top. but when i go to fill and take a drag i get this AWFUL burnt taste. i keep burning the sponge . What am i doing wrong?
cant get cartomizers primed well !! HELP
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I don't know if this is correct but when I use a carto tank I don't drip any liquid in the actual carto. I just pull the carto down and fill the tank. Once it's full I push the carto back into position and put my drip tip back on. Then with my finger over the bottom(threaded part) ill take dry hits , waiting a few seconds in between . Every time you dry hit it watch the tank and you should see bubbles rising up from the holes on either side of the carto. It's sucking liquid into the filler. Do that until you can take the drip tip off and see that the top of the filler material looks wet. Then vape away. I'll periodically take dry hits to keep juice flowing into filler.
I use the condom method to fill the cartos without tanks just as you described in your post. I have yet to have a long lasting carto though . I've tried to keep dripping a few drops every now and then to keep it saturated but I always end up getting that nasty burnt taste as well. I've read that once you get that taste you might as well chunk the carto . Because of the reason I pretty much only use carto tanks or bottom coil clearomizers.
I use the condom method to fill the cartos without tanks just as you described in your post. I have yet to have a long lasting carto though . I've tried to keep dripping a few drops every now and then to keep it saturated but I always end up getting that nasty burnt taste as well. I've read that once you get that taste you might as well chunk the carto . Because of the reason I pretty much only use carto tanks or bottom coil clearomizers.
Sounds like you are doing what is called the "condom technique", which I'm not personally a fan of.
Take a look at the method that I use and give it a try. It's worked for myself and scores of ECF members here. I recommend having a wood toothpick and a cartotank tool like the Slap Yo Moma tank accessory tool from Big Daddy Vapor (Not absolutely essential but makes it so much easier and faster, and protects your important o-rings from wear and tear from the carto.) There is a video demo/review by PBusardo on the SYM tool in the following cartotank guide.
Cartotank Setup Guide: http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/blogs/baditude/3710-5-cartomizer-tank-setup.html
Take a look at the method that I use and give it a try. It's worked for myself and scores of ECF members here. I recommend having a wood toothpick and a cartotank tool like the Slap Yo Moma tank accessory tool from Big Daddy Vapor (Not absolutely essential but makes it so much easier and faster, and protects your important o-rings from wear and tear from the carto.) There is a video demo/review by PBusardo on the SYM tool in the following cartotank guide.
Cartotank Setup Guide: http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/blogs/baditude/3710-5-cartomizer-tank-setup.html
Get a syringe with a blunt needle, draw up some ejuice into the syringe. Next, slip the needle between the metal wall of the carto cylinder and the polyfill ( what you are referring to as 'sponge') and slowly depress the syringe until the juice starts pooling at the top of the polyfill. Wait a minute, and if it isn't absorbed, fill some more; until it won't accept any more.
Then wait a few minutes, 3,5,8, 12 whatever. Then try again. You are probably not waiting, so it's tasting burnt.
The only other thing it may be is that you are frying the carto with too much wattage or voltage.
What are you using to power the carto? If it's variable voltage/wattage then that's probably it. Determine what your carto is Ohm wise and use the chart below.
Then wait a few minutes, 3,5,8, 12 whatever. Then try again. You are probably not waiting, so it's tasting burnt.
The only other thing it may be is that you are frying the carto with too much wattage or voltage.
What are you using to power the carto? If it's variable voltage/wattage then that's probably it. Determine what your carto is Ohm wise and use the chart below.
There are a lot of different methods for filling cartos - I always experiment when I read how someone else does it. This is the method I usually use (or a variation of it).
The Ocelot Method of Carto Filling (aka The Upside-Down Condom)
The Ocelot Method of Carto Filling (aka The Upside-Down Condom)
Get a syringe with a blunt needle, draw up some ejuice into the syringe. Next, slip the needle between the metal wall of the carto cylinder and the polyfill ( what you are referring to as 'sponge') and slowly depress the syringe until the juice starts pooling at the top of the polyfill. Wait a minute, and if it isn't absorbed, fill some more; until it won't accept any more.
Then wait a few minutes, 3,5,8, 12 whatever. Then try again. You are probably not waiting, so it's tasting burnt.
The only other thing it may be is that you are frying the carto with too much wattage or voltage.
What are you using to power the carto? If it's variable voltage/wattage then that's probably it. Determine what your carto is Ohm wise and use the chart below.
Uh oh! I'm in the red! I think it's a good idea to emphasize to new vapors that charts and mathematic formulae are for reference and are not rules.
Idk but as a new vaper myself the Local vapeshop suggested a cleromizer some say the flavor is muted but they are easy to start with and fairly inexpensive for a base model ($3-5) to see if you like it.
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I like these cartos...Boge F16 510 DCT Single Coil Cartomizer
They have 2 holes and the filling only comes halfway up the carto. You don't need all that filling in a carto tank anyway. I only have to add bout 20 drops to prime it let it sit for about 20 min and put it in the tank. They last me a long too...at least through a 30 ml bottle of juice.
They have 2 holes and the filling only comes halfway up the carto. You don't need all that filling in a carto tank anyway. I only have to add bout 20 drops to prime it let it sit for about 20 min and put it in the tank. They last me a long too...at least through a 30 ml bottle of juice.
The thing is they have their quirks, little details and tricks too. Just like everything does.
I've used the 'from the bottom condom method' and the syringe method from Baditude's post. Both work for me. Sorry Ocelot, never tried your 'upside down condom method' ... but it looks neat and I can see it working well 
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When I do the from the bottom condom method I use a pretty much full large condom and I push the carto down in small steps with pauses in between. Takes me about a minute to complete. I also use a round toothpick to fill the center hole or it takes longer to saturate the filler.
With a syringe I use blunt needles which has to be accommodated, but they are all I have. I also fill in steps as opposed to a lot at a time and wait for it to soak through the filler. Takes me a couple of minutes.
With both methods I end up having too much juice in the carto and have to blow it out from the top. If that does not happen, I put in more juice until I can blow some out. This is my check to make sure I did it right.
In the end you just have to get enough juice in there around the coil to avoid it burning the filler until the tank can take over. If it burns immediately, you didn't accomplish that and need to change something in your process or it will just happen again.
! When I do the from the bottom condom method I use a pretty much full large condom and I push the carto down in small steps with pauses in between. Takes me about a minute to complete. I also use a round toothpick to fill the center hole or it takes longer to saturate the filler.
With a syringe I use blunt needles which has to be accommodated, but they are all I have. I also fill in steps as opposed to a lot at a time and wait for it to soak through the filler. Takes me a couple of minutes.
With both methods I end up having too much juice in the carto and have to blow it out from the top. If that does not happen, I put in more juice until I can blow some out. This is my check to make sure I did it right.
In the end you just have to get enough juice in there around the coil to avoid it burning the filler until the tank can take over. If it burns immediately, you didn't accomplish that and need to change something in your process or it will just happen again.
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I've used the 'from the bottom condom method' and the syringe method from Baditude's post. Both work for me. Sorry Ocelot, never tried your 'upside down condom method' ... but it looks neat and I can see it working well
When I do the from the bottom condom method I use a pretty much full large condom and I push the carto down in small steps with pauses in between. Takes me about a minute to complete. I also use a round toothpick to fill the center hole or it takes longer to saturate the filler.
With a syringe I use blunt needles which has to be accommodated, but they are all I have. I also fill in steps as opposed to a lot at a time and wait for it to soak through the filler. Takes me a couple of minutes.
With both methods I end up having too much juice in the carto and have to blow it out from the top. If that does not happen, I put in more juice until I can blow some out. This is my check to make sure I did it right.
In the end you just have to get enough juice in there around the coil to avoid it burning the filler until the tank can take over. If it burns immediately, you didn't accomplish that and need to change something in your process or it will just happen again.
You have more patience than I do.
I push the carto into the condom just slowly enough for the liquid not to spurt out the other end. Then I let it sit for awhile or flip it and flick it or pump it (use your imagination) or whatever seems interesting. My attention span isn't long enough to slowly put a carto in a condom or use the "Fiddle with Your Thingy" method. There isn't room in my office for a "Taryn Spin."I think in pictures, so for this one I imagined a sponge and a bowl of water. You could very slowly lower the sponge into the water until it's saturated or you could shove it down to the bottom of the bowl, squeeze all the air out and have it absorb water that way. Even though you'll likely have to shove it down more than once to get all the air out, I think I will be out roller skating while you're still being gentle with your sponge.
My point is that no matter how it gets saturated the sponge can only hold a finite amount of water. If the reason to fill it slowly is to keep from flooding it, is that really important? Unless you are using a large condom and a small carto the condom holds less liquid.
Don't mind me
I'm just typing out loud and pondering if Archimedes is of equal importance as Ohm when it comes to cartos.Regarding the use of syringes: I tried it once, but got little bit of leaking that drove me up the wall trying to figure out where it was coming from. I finally discovered I had poked a tiny hole in the sock with the needle and liquid was seeping in. In that case, going more slowly would have been a better plan, but I wanted to go roller skating.
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That the way I do it to, I find on my 3.5ml tank a new carto will take not quite half the tank. for just a carto I use a syringe to fill find it the cleanest and least wasteful of juice
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