Yea I'm a newb yes i have spent way to much in a short time on my new hobby, BUT last week i purchased 3 MadV boxes 1 assembled 2 DIY, #1-Assembled i was at work day after i bought it and a coworker said hey whats that? Well i sold it to her She hasn't smoked yet!! Now its time to put 1 together fairly easy, But Sister-in-law took that 1 home with her i never got a hit off it!!!! Finally last 1 i put it together yesterday sitting on my steps tonight pulled out some juice adding a few drops and i hear Hey PAUL i see you smoking these remote controls? needless to say i no longer own a madvapes mod box!!!!