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Right at this moment, I am vaping my very first ever batch of DIY liquid. It is Capella's Apple Pie, and it is amazing!

I have to conclude that Capella's product is pretty much idiot-proof. I knew nothing more about making juice than what I read here on ECF. I only made a very small batch (10 ml), so my measurements were necessarily of limited precision. I didn't bother with steeping.

It just works.
 

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Theres a few dark ones but the majority are clear or light yellow . Havent had any atty issue or any difference on attys compared to other brands . I guess they are slightly thicker but not much and thats due to them being natural flavors vs like tpa that sells artificial flavorings .None are as dark as DIYFS flavorings . I like the color though .

Thanks for answering me STR8 and Los Maruader. I don't use atties so I hope the others who use many of the flavors and cartos will chime in. More info beside how yummy they are would be helpful to anyone wanting to try DIY, not just me, there will always be new people reading this thread- thanks again you two.

Another reason I asked is I have found some other flavors that were good but too dark, cloudy or heavy for carto use. Yes I know not everyone uses cartos but many do.
 

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Right at this moment, I am vaping my very first ever batch of DIY liquid. It is Capella's Apple Pie, and it is amazing!

I have to conclude that Capella's product is pretty much idiot-proof. I knew nothing more about making juice than what I read here on ECF. I only made a very small batch (10 ml), so my measurements were necessarily of limited precision. I didn't bother with steeping.

It just works.
I go nuts over that flavor.. Congratulations on your very first batch, that is awesome in many ways...:)
 

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Thanks for answering me STR8 and Los Maruader. I don't use atties so I hope the others who use many of the flavors and cartos will chime in. More info beside how yummy they are would be helpful to anyone wanting to try DIY, not just me, there will always be new people reading this thread- thanks again you two.

Another reason I asked is I have found some other flavors that were good but too dark, cloudy or heavy for carto use. Yes I know not everyone uses cartos but many do.

Same here. Mostly yellowish tan color. I don't have every flavor, but the ones I do have are the yellowish color. Not having any problems in cartos. One thing to keep in mind is you will find you actually use a little less Capella's than other flavorings, so maybe it is actually better for cartos. I've just never had any problems. Oh, the bottles are bigger than most places too, 13 mil size, so they last quite a while.
 

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Thanks for answering me STR8 and Los Maruader. I don't use atties so I hope the others who use many of the flavors and cartos will chime in. More info beside how yummy they are would be helpful to anyone wanting to try DIY, not just me, there will always be new people reading this thread- thanks again you two.

Another reason I asked is I have found some other flavors that were good but too dark, cloudy or heavy for carto use. Yes I know not everyone uses cartos but many do.

Im strickly a carto person . ALl i use is boge cartos . Got about 200 of them . I will only use attys for testing before it goes in my carto . No probs with boges at all even with dark french toast .Capellas is not like specifically for DIYers . Im sure most vendors are using them . I know of at least a few super popular vendors use capellas like missT, KBV and TVR
 
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Thanks for answering me STR8 and Los Maruader. I don't use atties so I hope the others who use many of the flavors and cartos will chime in. More info beside how yummy they are would be helpful to anyone wanting to try DIY, not just me, there will always be new people reading this thread- thanks again you two.

Another reason I asked is I have found some other flavors that were good but too dark, cloudy or heavy for carto use. Yes I know not everyone uses cartos but many do.
Just loaded up my clear dual carto with french toast and this stuff is very dark. I'll let you know how it holds up.

Edit: Now that I think about it, my all day vape for over a month has been STL Gooey Butter Cake and this stuff is just as dark as the french toast. I just changed that carto out with a fresh one a couple days ago. The carto was still giving me a good vape. I just changed it out for the hell of it. The new carto tastes the same to me.
 
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Just loaded up my clear dual carto with french toast and this stuff is very dark. I'll let you know how it holds up.

Edit: Now that I think about it, my all day vape for over a month has been STL Gooey Butter Cake and this stuff is just as dark as the french toast. I just changed that carto out with a fresh one a couple days ago. The carto was still giving me a good vape. I just changed it out for the hell of it. The new carto tastes the same to me.

Iv personally never understood peoples issues with using dark juices in a carto . Almost all the juices i vape are dark and i found that i love boge cartos while vaping them .A large amount of KBVs juices are almost black and they dont have issues in my cartos .Vendors dont have a choice but to use the same flavorings we use so im sure more than 90% of the juice vendors are using Capellas .

The only issue iv ever had with a boge carto is using steeped bobas bounty . WHen bobas gets a few months old its like hair gel and becomes a issue for almost anything your gonna vape it in . Other than that iv not had problem with VG juice,dark juices , cinnamons , nothing .
 
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I'm with you. VG is some thick stuff, and I can't see it performing very well in a carto. 60/40 PG/VG seems to be doing alright for me though.

Depends on the carto . Ce2/fluxos can only handle like 80pg/20vg . Boges i have no issue using 80vg/20pg . It saturates a little slower on the fill but vapes and wicks fine . ST DC's i can sometimes go 70vg/30pg . Ressurectors about the same as boges except thicker juices will not wick good after the first 3 days .

My last carto i got 9 days out of and its my daily vape -snickerdoodle which is super dark and 70vg/30pg
 

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I've had some problems with the EMDCC clogging quickly with my chocolates but I make them really strong and suspect that's the reason. I also add a lot of sweetener and that will sometimes clog them faster. The Go-go cartos I use last just as long as with the light colored juices. (If you guys haven't tried Capella flavors in a Go-go cart you don't know what you're missing! Just sayin' :))
 

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The issue is unless you are using a tank of some sort and (even then the life will probably be shorter) all dark juices tend to drop sediment and crap up the coils faster than thin clearer juices. Respected long time members here preach this day in and day out to the new people for example dormouse and hairball. I found it to be true and try to make my juices as light as possible.

Thanks for the input everybody.
 
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Always thought that it was the PG/VG ratio that was the prob with cartos... not the color of the juice...
My experience is limited, but the evidence is convincing.

I'm sitting here looking at two 510 Smoov cartos, purchased on the same day last month:

One has vaped 12 ml of Juicy Vapor butter rum caramel (a dark juice), and it's shot. The flavor has been decreasing for several days now, and it produces markedly less vapor than it did a week ago. I'm gonna drop it in the trash next time I get up and walk over there.

The other has vaped 12 ml of Juicy Vapor blueberry (a clear juice), plus another 6 ml or so of Volcano Waikiki Watermelon (another clear juice), and it still works almost like new.

My experience with mega dual coil cartos is similar. French Toast (opaque) clogs them up in a little over a week. With 555 tobacco (not clear, but not dark either), they last around twice as long. The big dual coil cartos I was buying were made of clear plastic - you could see the residue building up down in the bottom. Building up, and gradually getting darker until it was almost black.

I don't know what to think, other than that clear juices aren't as hard on the equipment.
 

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My experience is limited, but the evidence is convincing.

I'm sitting here looking at two 510 Smoov cartos, purchased on the same day last month:

One has vaped 12 ml of Juicy Vapor butter rum caramel (a dark juice), and it's shot. The flavor has been decreasing for several days now, and it produces markedly less vapor than it did a week ago. I'm gonna drop it in the trash next time I get up and walk over there.

The other has vaped 12 ml of Juicy Vapor blueberry (a clear juice), plus another 6 ml or so of Volcano Waikiki Watermelon (another clear juice), and it still works almost like new.

My experience with mega dual coil cartos is similar. French Toast (opaque) clogs them up in a little over a week. With 555 tobacco (not clear, but not dark either), they last around twice as long. The big dual coil cartos I was buying were made of clear plastic - you could see the residue building up down in the bottom. Building up, and gradually getting darker until it was almost black.

I don't know what to think, other than that clear juices aren't as hard on the equipment.

I think its probably a combo of:
PG/VG ratio- higher VG harder on cartos
dark flavorings, real tobacco sediments, and high usage of sweetener contribute to faster spent cartos and black gunky buildup on coils faster.

Thanks for sharing your experience on this- thats how its been for me too. When I go to buy flavorings now, I take that into consideration.
 

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I think its probably a combo of:
PG/VG ratio- higher VG harder on cartos
dark flavorings, real tobacco sediments, and high usage of sweetener contribute to faster spent cartos and black gunky buildup on coils faster.

Thanks for sharing your experience on this- thats how its been for me too. When I go to buy flavorings now, I take that into consideration.

Sweetener i agree with fully . I also agree on the pg/vg ratio on most cartos . I find the boges to be the only ones that can handle almost anything . There is a little difference in higher vg dar juices but if i get 9+ days out of a carto with dark juice at 70vg/30pg and its still working decently when i chuck it then i cant call it a issue . 50cents for 9 days im perfectly happy with . Id be happy with 5 days .
 

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i have two cartos sitting here...both were vaping the same liquid same..both filled the same day...one lasted 3 days...the second one is still going...day 6..... the liquid for comparison sakes is like the color of the first bottle from the left in the picture...in another carto i have DIY FS Chocolate Cappuccino, and its black..filled up days before the other two and its still going strong..they all were getting equal vapes at the time of the testing...

so yes dark colors i believe play a part in failure of equipment, i just dont think its as extreme as what is lead to believe...cheap china made equipment that we use on our PV's are just that cheaply made with next to no quality insurance.

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My experience is limited, but the evidence is convincing.

I'm sitting here looking at two 510 Smoov cartos, purchased on the same day last month:

One has vaped 12 ml of Juicy Vapor butter rum caramel (a dark juice), and it's shot. The flavor has been decreasing for several days now, and it produces markedly less vapor than it did a week ago. I'm gonna drop it in the trash next time I get up and walk over there.

The other has vaped 12 ml of Juicy Vapor blueberry (a clear juice), plus another 6 ml or so of Volcano Waikiki Watermelon (another clear juice), and it still works almost like new.

My experience with mega dual coil cartos is similar. French Toast (opaque) clogs them up in a little over a week. With 555 tobacco (not clear, but not dark either), they last around twice as long. The big dual coil cartos I was buying were made of clear plastic - you could see the residue building up down in the bottom. Building up, and gradually getting darker until it was almost black.

I don't know what to think, other than that clear juices aren't as hard on the equipment.
 

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i have two cartos sitting here...both were vaping the same liquid same..both filled the same day...one lasted 3 days...the second one is still going...day 6..... the liquid for comparison sakes is like the color of the first bottle from the left in the picture...in another carto i have DIY FS Chocolate Cappuccino, and its black..filled up days before the other two and its still going strong..they all were getting equal vapes at the time of the testing...

so yes dark colors i believe play a part in failure of equipment, i just dont think its as extreme as what is lead to believe...cheap china made equipment that we use on our PV's are just that cheaply made with next to no quality insurance.

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I agree with thats theres bad quality control over most ecig products in general however very little QC issues with boge cartos . I bought a case of boge cartos (200) directly from boge tech and have been documenting each one by how many days it lasts / draw becomes effected /juice in it . Also how well the filler saturated from one carto to another . Theres a lot of variables so it on average but so far iv been through 80 of them and have not had one fail or DOA . Filler saturation is about equal on at least 95% of them .The ones that werent were using juices like Malty toffee and Bobas . Color does have a effect but not anything concernable . On averege its 1-3 days early that the draw gets effected but thats after a week anyway in which they start tasting a little stale color or not . I also did test a few for longevety and the 3 i tried went 13-16 days before the draw was too hard to use correctly . Those were while vaping the dark snickerdoodle juice . Not the best scientific testing but i did write down all that stuff about each one and have proved that the QC on Boge cartos is the best there is . Iv used at least 2 or more of almost every carto on the market and the only carto that is right near boges is CCV ressurectors . The ressurectors do offer a better vape than the boges but only for the first couple days . Smoketech DC's dont have the greatest QC but they are usable . Emdcc's were actually close to the ressurectors however i give qc a low rating due to burnt filler issues . The clear EMDCC's do have one thing going for them and thats that the tube amd filler can be removed and cleaned to almost new condition . Ce2/fluxos just forget about .QC control is beyond pitiful . Its a joke . Well thats what i have found in my carto experiences .
 

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Maybe I found the holy grail of emdcc's. I have a carto that is over a month old, using STL Gooey Butter Cake from Vape-A-Licious, and this thing still puts out good vape and flavor. I've started using a new carto and the flavor tastes the same to me. When I get some free time, I plan on taking the old one apart and seeing what's going on in the inside.
 
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