Card Payment Terminated for E Cig Products

[Hulamoon]

I think this is the original discussion. It seems the clause has been there a while,since Nov 2010 or March 2011. I guess they just wanted to rake in the commissions and fees as long as they could - either that or there's was a secret BH and GOLD vaper on their board. lol. I don't think there'll be too much trouble finding another gateway, it's just a big blow for you right now with the move and transitions. Hang in there, we're all routing for you. Yea Smooth! Yea Smooth! Yea Smooth! http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...rchant-services-forbid-ecig-transactions.html

Thank you, Hula. Seems there is still a lot of info to be discovered.

 

[RobertM]

The other unfortunate part about this (like Andy mentioned) is that it'll cause some issues with a lot of the other payment processors who have openly allowed e-cig related accounts, considering many of them also use Authorize.Net as their gateway.

 

[ogredog]

I've used clover, that may be an alternative....its a phone app

 

[Salt&PePPer]

This decision must have been Politically and Business Oriented! No other explanation.

You can still use the CC to buy tobacco products, but not E-CIG Stuff? That speaks volumes that Big tobacco has it's hands in all of this muck.

I can understand where e-cigs are being band from being used in Federal Buildings, in the USA and such, because the straight people still freak-out about it and are Ignorant like Rachel Ray (Just youtube Rachel Ray and eCigs and watch). But when it comes to stuff like this it's just bigger business trying to force all the tobacco users back to their products.

Further, Big Government wants you to use Tobacco too so they don't miss out on their Tax Revenue. They would rather you poison your body and develop cancer just so they can have their tax money.

So much misinformation being disseminated just makes me want to Vomit. This is just as bad as the lies being told concerning some controlled drugs and substances. I won't get into the argument here...

 

[Loveridden]

I know it happened to Quick Nic Juice - they were able to find a new CC processor

 

[rdbeads]

This feels a lot like when the online poker troubles started. I sure hope this one has a better outcome.

 

[AttyPops]

Well, it isn't some "Big Government" thing.. or it would affect all of em.
BT maybe. But I'd think it'd be in their best long term interest to be able to sell via the internet. However, stopping to competition is a factor too so IDK on that.
BP maybe.

Big Deal? Let's hope others don't follow suite.

Probably the Illuminati.... but we'll never know for sure. Where's that guy with the "I ain't say'n it was aliens... but it was aliens" avatar?

Whatever the "hidden motivations"... it's a BIG CORPORATION getting too big for it's britches, IMO. It's a legal product and a healthier one. If you really want to address the issue you could try starting a boycott of all business using the CC processor and make it a viral video and rant on the net. Or maybe just encourage ALL businesses, e-cig or not, to switch to another processor. Or some such thing to raise awareness. Just an opinion.

 

[Racehorse]

You could always sell gift cards via CC and then customers could use those to purchase whatever from your store right?

I already do that with Green Dot Money packs, for my horseracing, in case my bank ever decides it doesn't want me betting on horses

My online wagering provider allows for these, as well as for me sending in a check once month which they will credit to my account.

If you are wedded to a vendor, I see no reason any and all of these things can't be done......It's being done by so many other businesses, like twinspires. they reallized early on that some CC companies and processors may have a "thing" against gambling or something. :ROLLS EYES:

No offense, it's not really thinking outside the box, it's being done on a regular basis with products that are on the edge of "objectionable" to some people.

Guess I'm in 2 of those categories now that I'm vaping ROTFL

I just have no idea why an ecig enterprise would consider using a processor who "may" not support them, I mean, why pay somebody who is kinda against what you're doing? I certainly don't want to see money in those pockets.

 

[Absintheur]

I would point out to them that the federal government obviously does not consider them to be tobacco products. The FCC has allowed e-cigarette ads to be played on public tv, it has been unlawful for 30 plus years for tobacco products to be sold on tv.

 

[jhecht4]

Wow anything else lol?

 

[xanderxman]

This is basically showing the reach of Big Tobacco and the Pharma companies. I firmly believe they had a hand in "convincing" the CC transaction companies to adopt these policies. I did not used to believe in conspiracy theory but the older I get, the more I realize this stuff goes on day in and day out.

The laws are getting harder to pass, so they just find another way to kill smoking alternatives. I often wonder if a well paid exec at a Big Tobacco company would feel like they accomplished something if their own child developed cancer from their toxic product.

 

[DantesInferno]

Just ridiculous. I've already had problems with my bank not allowing me to use my debit card for e cig/juice products. But I can go buy a pack of smokes without a problem.

 

[spider362]

I have purchased products in the past using electronic checks. Clears rather quickly but you do have to have the money in your checking account right then to cover it.

You do have to send your checking account number over the web, but once you write a paper check your number along with your signature is out in the ether anyway.

 

[Mac]

This is old news. Authorize.net burned us in December of 2010. The way they handled it was malicious too. No notice, no info, no warning. Just froze us up during the busiest time of year with no explanation. There are cc processing companies dedicated to our industry. Just be glad they didn't do you like they did us. It cost us THOUSANDS.

 

[TomCatt]

A co-op I'm in ran into a bit of trouble with PayPal. A similar service, Dwolla, was approached and they (at that time) have no problem with ecig transactions.


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[Davenkay]

It's my money and I will spend it as I please. Why does a bank or gateway need to know what the money is going for? If, an order is placed, the funds or credit line is available, then put it through! Why should they care if it is for an e-cig or a box of doohickies? Some folks can buy prescription drugs from oversea via the internet and pay with a credit card no questions asked.

 

[xanderxman]

The issue at hand is the loss incurred by Big Tobacco and Pharma. They have a TON of pull in so many areas. It would not be hard for them to "convince" the CC processing companies that it would be in their best interest to not process e-cig transactions. Money brings power. It shouldn't be like that, but it is.

Another way to look at it is this. There are plenty of overpaid athletes that can simply show up in a commercial for some crappy product and the masses will jump on it just because thier "hero" endorses it. Let a teacher or doctor endorse a pair of shoes and see how quickly they sell. Money makes the world go 'round and until we all wake up and take a stand that will not change.

 

[Salt&PePPer]

No way in hell I will have my bank or any other financial system tell me what I can and cannot use my money on.

 

[alffalvo]

The issue at hand is the loss incurred by Big Tobacco and Pharma. They have a TON of pull in so many areas. It would not be hard for them to "convince" the CC processing companies that it would be in their best interest to not process e-cig transactions. Money brings power. It shouldn't be like that, but it is.

Another way to look at it is this. There are plenty of overpaid athletes that can simply show up in a commercial for some crappy product and the masses will jump on it just because thier "hero" endorses it. Let a teacher or doctor endorse a pair of shoes and see how quickly they sell. Money makes the world go 'round and until we all wake up and take a stand that will not change.

100% CORRECT

 

[SABOTEUR]

Don't know if this is an option where you live, but you might want to look into prepaid debit cards. Prior to being issued a debit card by my bank, I would go to a retail store, purchase a debit card in the denomination closest to my intended online purchase. Go online and use it just like a "real" credit/debit card.