Carto Destroyer!...Natural extracted tobacco!

[FRANKSTER]

I never thought I would start a thread again but I have to say something about these juices. These tobacco extracted juices are totally destroying my cartos. The liquid is like water. They state that the vg/pg mix is 50/50 but it's total water. I thought all along that there was something wrong with my cartos. There is something wrong with the juice. It goes through a carto filler like .... through a goose.

These are the juices Vaperite VR4 and Madagascar vanilla...I love the flavor of these 2 juices but I refuse to lose a carto a day with them. You get about an hour where all is well and then you get a dry burn. This has happened over and over. I cannot believe that I have not read anyone mention this. Why don't they add more vg to the juice? I received today 2 more extracted tobaccos from goodejuice at 50/50. My carto is dead already.

Everyone on ecf is always defending these vendors. Yet, they keep selling juices that either taste like crap or you have to wait until christmas to vape it or it goes right through a carto like these juices that I just mentioned. Please, give me a break! I forgot to mention the 2 juices from goode...Vita Bella and the natural Perique.

Put more vg in your juices guys...you know the juice is like water. Fix it! I also know that I am going to get all these snide remarks about this. It's my money going down the drain and I intend to let these vendors know about it.

 

[Vapian]

You're saying GoodeJuice NET's are like water?

Interesting. I seriously don't doubt your experience with it but I have to say, if I got any of their Patriot, Vita Bella, GJ4, etc. that was that thin I'd be emailing Nick and asking what's up. Seriously, because those are about the thickest nicquids I use. Not as thick as Boba's but enough that I usually thin it out about 30% with plain PG with excellent results.

Again I do not at all question your experience; obviously, your mileage did vary. But the first thing I would do is send a nice missive off to Nick and asking him about it. My experience, they will take care of you if you ask nice. That's what happened when they first came out with the NET's and I experienced an ashy taste within half a day of use in a carto. It wasn't long after that they changed up the process a bit and cleaned up the taste.

Also, I find that your experience of thin nicquids being carto-killers interesting. My experience has been the opposite - that thin nicquids can go for days or even weeks in a carto, but thicker ones kill them more quickly. At least with straight cartomizers where I'm the one responsible for keeping the carto wet. Now when using a tank, adjusting the hole or slot in the carto to the kind of niquid being used (small for thin, larger for thick) has greatly extended the life of cartos for me, even with thicker stuff.

Anywho ... hope you get in touch with the vendors and are able to work it out, and if those nicquids don't work for you, keep searching. Coming up on a year myself and only in the past few months finding my all-day vapes.

 

[440BB]

I hope you start some more threads Frankster, you're the anti-fanboy and we need your rants! I must say that thin juice is what I need for my filler-based cartos so I'm a bit confused. I just got the thinnest VG I've ever had from GoodProphets and although the flavors vary they seem to hold up in my dual coils as well as my thinner Halo juices so far. What type of carto are you using these days?

 

[r77r7r]

Is there something wrong with your cartos', what kind do you use?

 

[Voltron]

Hey FRANKSTER, maybe you should "dissect" your dead cartos. I've had carto killers before, and after removing the filler from the carto I have noticed a lot of "gunk" in the inner "super fiber" as well as the coil. I tend to think the natural extracts might be responsible for this. With some coffee juices in particular, a black, thick gunk can develop in no time.

 

[Shilo]

Yes all the natural extracted are carto killers this has been mentioned many a time here. Goodejuice is not thin its 50/50 because thats a ratio to carry the extract better no to displease you.....lol and higher VG will make them last two hours instead of a day. Are you using a tank ? You almost have to with these type of juices.

 

[luceblueboy]

this is why i had to give up my jazz cartopipe. I loved it but was going through cartos like crazy because i'm a natural tobacco vaper. I drip on attys and those usually last awhile

 

[FRANKSTER]

I just went through 2 cartos in one day with this juice. Before this juice came in yesterday, I was using a boge 510 that was lasting me a week up until yesterday. The carto could have gone longer if it was not for the fact that I was vaping echoPure-rich...I just hate the juice. I was getting a nice draw out of the carto and that was a week of steady vaping.

Now, comes the goode and I used up a boge 510 and a smotech dc 1.5ohm...totally useless. I love the perique but they can keep it and this holds the same with Vaperite's juice. I want people to know what they are buying. If you do not care about going through a carto a day, by all means get this juice...it taste great, but if you cannot afford a carto a day. Avoid these natural extract tobaccos like the plague.

It is sad that a juice can taste so great and yet cannot go the distance...what is really ironic is that Vaperite tells you to use their juice in a carto...what a joke!

I think when someone does a review on a juice...how the juice works in a carto should be addressed. The only juice that I have tried that can do all this is DULCIS. I have to admit that the juice is not as great as I thought it was based on the fact that it was 4 months since I first tried it. However, The juice taste as good as the best, it hits hard with plenty of vapor...also working well in a carto...smooth draw all the way. There are not any juices that I have tried that can make this claim. Even the best juices fail in one area or another. I have had at least 200 juices in the 6 months of vaping.

Only one!...that is a complete shame.

 

[r77r7r]

Frank, I think you may have way more tastebuds than other folks,lol. So, have you quit smoking?

 

[FRANKSTER]

Frank, I think you may have way more tastebuds than other folks,lol. So, have you quit smoking?

I have not had an analog since the first day I had a vape. I will vape the worst juice in the world rather then go back to smoking. Believe me, I have had juices that have literally made me sick and yet I used them. I have go to juices now so I am not worried if a juice does not work the way I expect it to. These juices are just like water.

This way you can vape more juice in a quicker period of time so you can go back to the vendor to buy more. I get it alright.

 

[YKruss]

I guess all juices using maceration processing are the carto's killers - in my case it's a Tobacco from Tasty Vapor which kills cartos in just one day and sometimes half a day.

And usually 1 carto last me for about a week.

 

[Vapian]

Now, comes the goode and I used up a boge 510 and a smotech dc 1.5ohm...totally useless. I love the perique but they can keep it ...

Ah... that might explain things a bit. Last I heard, the only NET's at GEJ that were "new process" are Patriot, GJ4 and Vita Bella. If the Perique hasn't gone to the new process -- or cannot because of the tobacco type -- it would kill a carto pretty quick. I'm fairly certain it's more because of suspended particulates leftover from macreation rather than how thick or thin it is, but either way I agree that the Perique I tried would blow through a carto pretty quickly.

Out of curiosity, have you given Lone Wolf e-Smokes or Prime Vaping's offerings a shot? LW has a killer menthol tobacco called Chill Bill and their Orange Slush is pretty good. I haven't had their straight tobaccos but I wouldn't hesitate to try them. PV's just had pretty good nicquids all around for me, with the odd exception of a couple of dessert flavors that just didn't sit well.

Keep at it, you'll find more you like eventually!

 

[sandybeach]

Those big fat cartos from Discount Vapors refuse to get gunked up. No matter what I do, they last and last. They are dual coil, 1.5 ohm. They are made for the Go-Go, so I have to use an adaptor for 510. I got a box of 5, and they just last and last. Supposedly you can clean them and reuse them. They come apart. I haven't tried that yet.

Go-go Dual Coil 3.5ml Clear Cartomizer

 

[FRANKSTER]

I am going to list all the juices that I know for certain are instant carto killers and flow like water. I have been using 3 different cartos and these juices act the same way on all. I use a boge 510 lr. a smoketeck 1.7 ohm and a dc 1.5ohm. These juices act the exact same way.

They are from GOODEJUICE...Vita Bell
Natural Perique

VAPERITE...VR4
Madagascar Vanilla
Rao's Toasted Haszelnut

These five juices are unvapable in a carto. You can get about an hour of heavy vaping and then they just about die. They cannot even last more than a day. For me, I have to top these juices off with another juice just in order to vape them. I do not know if it is possible for the vendors to make these juices heavier without diminishing the flavor, but if they can they should at least offer out a thicker juice because as it stands right now, these juices are useless. I would advise any vaper to not waste their time with these juices unless they can afford a carto a day.

My advice to the vendors is to make a thicker juice for those of us who have experienced the same problem or vape the juice yourself! What I think is a great idea is that they can sell the juice and toss in 5 cartos for free and tell you that you are going to need them. And please vapers...stop felling sorry for these vendors who are making nice money. Anyone who has diyd can tell you how cheap it is to make an e-liquid.

 

[Vapoor eyes er]

I mix my own Black Perique and TA and cartos last about 8 days as opposed to 2+ weeks with regular light juice. A lot of trial and error in the beginning and lots of prep work so now I mix about 2500 ml each time for my own personal use and for friends. Using SmokTech 1.7 cartos.

 

[sandybeach]

I am going to list all the juices that I know for certain are instant carto killers and flow like water. I have been using 3 different cartos and these juices act the same way on all. I use a boge 510 lr. a smoketeck 1.7 ohm and a dc 1.5ohm. These juices act the exact same way.

They are from GOODEJUICE...Vita Bell
Natural Perique

VAPERITE...VR4
Madagascar Vanilla
Rao's Toasted Haszelnut

These five juices are unvapable in a carto. You can get about an hour of heavy vaping and then they just about die. They cannot even last more than a day. For me, I have to top these juices off with another juice just in order to vape them. I do not know if it is possible for the vendors to make these juices heavier without diminishing the flavor, but if they can they should at least offer out a thicker juice because as it stands right now, these juices are useless. I would advise any vaper to not waste their time with these juices unless they can afford a carto a day.

My advice to the vendors is to make a thicker juice for those of us who have experienced the same problem or vape the juice yourself! What I think is a great idea is that they can sell the juice and toss in 5 cartos for free and tell you that you are going to need them. And please vapers...stop felling sorry for these vendors who are making nice money. Anyone who has diyd can tell you how cheap it is to make an e-liquid.

I use the VR4 in a carto with no problems.

 

[Njt07]

I don't know how you feel about using cartos vs attys, but if you want to keep using these juices and don't want to go through a carto a day you may want to try this. It's a 306 atty that I set up in a DCC tank, if you've been vaping for a bit you probably already have the materials at home.

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/tank-mods/281375-306-atty-tank-using-dcc-tank.html

I've been using this for about 2 weeks now and it's been pretty darn good, you may want to give it a try.

 

[FRANKSTER]

I use the VR4 in a carto with no problems.

I do not know how...this is the only one that I was using 70/30...maybe you are using the 50/50. When I top off these juices, they form a crop circle on my paper towel. I have been topping them off with juices that make a nice combo, but I should not have to do that. The vr4 and Madagascar are my favorite juices along woth the bwb honey flu and the dulcis so I need these 2 juices, but I cannot get a carto to last more than 5 or 6 hours.

 

[jplanet]

this is why i had to give up my jazz cartopipe. I loved it but was going through cartos like crazy because i'm a natural tobacco vaper. I drip on attys and those usually last awhile

This is why I would never bother with cartos - they would disqualify about 2/3 of the juices I vape. Drip onto an atty, flavor is always better anyway, and no problems.

 

[Mr.Mann]

"And please vapers...stop felling sorry for these vendors who are making nice money." FRANKSTER


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