Carto Tank Questions
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I totally agree with this. B&M shops don't sell a variety of cartotanks because once they sell a cartotank they don't make any more money on them. They don't make any money on replacement cartomizers because customers soon learn they can get them far cheaper online. Why pay up to $4 for a carto from a shop when you can get them for $1.50 online?
B&M vendors make money on clearomizers because they are geared towards novice vapors just starting out. They are easy to fill and easy to replace the coil heads. They make money on the replacement clearo head and it brings the customer back into the store to buy more stuff. The vendors usually end up selling another clearomizer model/brand because the original one gave burnt/dry hits, flooded, got juice in the mouth or leaked all over their battery. "First one did that? Really? This one won't do that because its a bottom coil. Try this model."
Cartotanks aren't offered to novice vapors because there are multiple steps involved in setting one up which would look too complicated to a new vaper. Most newcomers would say that's too much work. However, once they quit smoking and become frustrated with the issues of clearomizers, they are willing to put in a little more effort to continue vaping without needing to step up to rebuildables...which look even more complicated than a cartotank to them. Add to these facts that many salespeople have never used a cartotank before and don't know anything about them.
I recall a B&M salesman talking a customer out of trying a cartotank who was interested in trying one. "Nahh, thats old technology. They haven't changed in years. Here, look instead at this new clearomizer we got in instead." It was all that I could do to keep from biting my tongue. They haven't changed because they simply WORK. You can't fix what ain't broken. There are new clearomizers coming on the market all the time. Why? Because most of them DON'T work consistantly and mute flavors.
IMO, cartotanks are a great intermediate step up between clearomizers and rebuildables.
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I generally avoid tank crackers. I have three mini Davides for the ones I do use.
I rebuild my clearo heads, but the $$$$ investment to switch to RBA's is beyond my pocketbook, and I really don't want to get into it. A dollar apiece for cartos, given how long they last, is not bad at all.
If you like inconsistency and less flavor, I agree, move to a Clearomizer. If you want much better consistency and better flavor, stick with a good carto-tank set-up. Along with IBtanked, one just as good and IMO, a little better is Phiniac. I haven't had to replace the seals in over a year and they never leak:
Phiniac Rugged Pyrex Glass Tanks
I actually started with a cartotank system. It was my first vape that I bought secondhand on a whim. I'll admit it was frustrating at first. When I went to one of the big local B&Ms, there was only one person there who could help me. The other employee said they didn't even stock the cartos, but one person there was able to go in the back and get me some slotted carto that they had. Gave it to me and primed it for free since I bought some juice. He used the injection method which I was never able to pull off without breaking a carto. I do prefer the drip and flip, though after reading your guide I actually had to look up 'How to flick a thermometer' because I was still in the dark.
I am also very fond of the AeroTank, but I admittedly bought it for the good reviews and because the purple one looks awesome on my purple K100+. I am definitely a sucker for asthetics. I still knew in the back of my head that it wouldn't quite stack up to the carto tank I was already using, but the sealed, easy to use design definitely made up for it. It's really a great juice attachment for when I'm out and about, or at work.
I prime 5-6 at a time and leave them in the condoms, but I like this idea. Thanks!
Hey! Finally cartos @Fast tech. Flared, punched, Smoks @ Under $1 is great. Gonna look for Boges....
Your tank spins around the carto because its o-rings are of inferior quality. Instead of putting better o-rings in their tank, the manufacturer decides to use a unneccesarily more complicated solution by using that fixation screw.
You could use a tighter fitting mouthpiece/drip tip in the carto which would allow you to unscrew the tank even with bad o-rings. Press the tighter fitting drip tip in toward the battery device as you unscrew the tank.
That's the point of buying a higher quality cartotank in the first place. No need for that ugly screw.
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In the three years that I have had my J-Tanks, I have never had one slip off. In fact after a carto has been in one for a few minutes, I need to press the connector end of the carto against something (edge of my desk) to get it to move. There is no need of flanges or set screws, all it takes is a proper o-ring fit.
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Refilling a IBTanked without a fill hole is super easy.
Here's all you need: carto tank, a hypo bottle or syringe and juice. I like the syringe for fast filling with thick 95% VG juice. The long refilling drip tip sold by IBTanked is a fine tool. I like it better than the Slap Yo' Mama tool because I can use it to blow out a new carto after priming. Oh, you will need Kleenex.
The drip tip is replaced with the refilling drip tip. The refilling drip tip is used to pull the carto down from the tank enough to refill from the top.
The syringe needle is passed between the narrow refilling drip tip and the inner O-ring for refilling. Again, a syringe bottle also works for this job.
Here's all you need: carto tank, a hypo bottle or syringe and juice. I like the syringe for fast filling with thick 95% VG juice. The long refilling drip tip sold by IBTanked is a fine tool. I like it better than the Slap Yo' Mama tool because I can use it to blow out a new carto after priming. Oh, you will need Kleenex.
The drip tip is replaced with the refilling drip tip. The refilling drip tip is used to pull the carto down from the tank enough to refill from the top.
The syringe needle is passed between the narrow refilling drip tip and the inner O-ring for refilling. Again, a syringe bottle also works for this job.
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The carto is repositioned in the tank and the the drip tip replaced. I like unflanged cartos. They fit closer to the top cap on my rig. I also punch my own cartos using a Siam Mods V2 carto punch tool. I'm very picky about the number of holes I punch and how large they are. Clean and dry the ends of the tank with Kleenex.
This 22mm XL plain Jane glass tank from IBTanked is ready to go. The tank holds 5ml of juice in addition to the 1.8ml of juice inside the Smoke XL carto. I never fill the tank all of the way but leave a little space for air.
This 22mm XL plain Jane glass tank from IBTanked is ready to go. The tank holds 5ml of juice in addition to the 1.8ml of juice inside the Smoke XL carto. I never fill the tank all of the way but leave a little space for air.
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I don't use a flanged carto or locking tank for the same reason. The O-rings on IBTanked are a little loose immediately after refilling but as the O-rings squeeze out liquid from between the rings and the carto the grip increases a lot. I pocket carry my rig all of the time without leaks or spills..
I would like to recommend the Boge F16 V2 carto tank. It is a 5 ml glass tank surrounded with an cage which comes in different colors. It also comes with a fill tool that can be used as a drip tip. You can get either the Boge xl cartos with the regular flange or the ones made for the F16 which have a different type of flange. The flanges lock into the bottom of the tank with a twist. I own a couple of these and they work well and are priced very low. Just my opinion but worth a look at.
I'm pretty sure that's one of the ones in my picture. I knew it was F something-or-other. But I don't use the flanged cartos. I like slotted ones and they still sit in there nice and tight.
i'm a big fan of carto tanks because they are the least finicky tank I have ever found. I think you will be well satisfied with IBTanked. I've tried a lot of carto tanks and IMO they are one of the best. They also come in many different sizes. They work so well that you don't really need anything to lock the carto in place.
As for carto tanks with a bottom screw on section you may be referring to 2 different things:
1. Smoktech uDCT tank. This has a small screw on piece that locks the carto and works well. I use a couple of these.
2. AGR tank. This has several sections and a fill hole. I could never get these to work right. Leaky, gurgly mess IMO. It tries to solve toomany issues that don't really need fixing with a quality tank.
As for carto tanks with a bottom screw on section you may be referring to 2 different things:
1. Smoktech uDCT tank. This has a small screw on piece that locks the carto and works well. I use a couple of these.
2. AGR tank. This has several sections and a fill hole. I could never get these to work right. Leaky, gurgly mess IMO. It tries to solve toomany issues that don't really need fixing with a quality tank.
It's good to hear from so many diehard carto-tank users! I love mine (Phiniac with IBTanked cartos) and will continue to use it regardless of what others say. Best flavor and vapor anyone could want and virtually maintenance free (no fiddle factor).
Long live the carto tanks!!!
Long live the carto tanks!!!
... I am sorry to differ but often my 25mm IBtanked with unflanged cartos is hard to remove. It is even worst if my PV has a larger diameter like my 26650 mods.
The carto slips and it takes a little care not to pull out or push in the carto (if without flange) from/in the tank. This is less likely to happen with a flanged carto as it has more contact area and I can press on it without the risk of pushing the carto in with the resulting mess. I am now carefull not to screw the tank too hard on my PV when I use an unflanged carto.
For vaping quality, I am very happy with my carto tanks.
The carto slips and it takes a little care not to pull out or push in the carto (if without flange) from/in the tank. This is less likely to happen with a flanged carto as it has more contact area and I can press on it without the risk of pushing the carto in with the resulting mess. I am now carefull not to screw the tank too hard on my PV when I use an unflanged carto.
For vaping quality, I am very happy with my carto tanks.
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If you have a tight driptip, u can use the DT to loosen the tank.
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