cartos and attys

[c.chalie]

the last time i looked into this about a year ago the top notch attys was the cisco 306 has this changed?

also what are the best cartos for tanks, and reg. cartos for pen styles

 

[Wil]

I still totally dig the Cisco 306, but there are some new premiums out there...

Cisco sells an HH.357, which uses his coil. It's a hybrid 306/510. It makes a rediculous amount of vapor and has a pretty good flavor. I don't use them because I keep flooding it on a REO, so I'm still using his 306's. The HH.357 is AWESOME if you actually drip, and tightly control the amount of liquid. True dripping is too much of a pain for me, so I use tanks or bottom feeders, making it difficult.

The word is that Cisco and Hanna (the builder of the HH.357) have something new coming any day that's supposed to be great... A carto based on the HH.357, perhaps? Also coming is a Cisco tank that uses an atomizer, not a carto. Will be interesting to watch.

Also, iKenVape's i06 is pretty nice... competes well with Cisco's 306, and works as well. But, Cisco is almost always in-stock, iKen's unpredictable availability just isn't worth dealing with, IMO.

You just can't beat a Cisco 306 for nine bucks...

 

[c.chalie]

i cant see payin $22 for an atty tho, maybe if they lasted longer i hear like 10 days on the 357

 

[Della Cirque]

LR306 Cisco is still at the top of my list. (Even after trying the over priced 357.)

 

[c.chalie]

I still totally dig the Cisco 306, but there are some new premiums out there...

Cisco sells an HH.357, which uses his coil. It's a hybrid 306/510. It makes a rediculous amount of vapor and has a pretty good flavor. I don't use them because I keep flooding it on a REO, so I'm still using his 306's. The HH.357 is AWESOME if you actually drip, and tightly control the amount of liquid. True dripping is too much of a pain for me, so I use tanks or bottom feeders, making it difficult.


The word is that Cisco and Hanna (the builder of the HH.357) have something new coming any day that's supposed to be great... A carto based on the HH.357, perhaps? Also coming is a Cisco tank that uses an atomizer, not a carto. Will be interesting to watch.

Also, iKenVape's i06 is pretty nice... competes well with Cisco's 306, and works as well. But, Cisco is almost always in-stock, iKen's unpredictable availability just isn't worth dealing with, IMO.

You just can't beat a Cisco 306 for nine bucks...

ok i guess ill just wait to see the new ones about to come out, any idea on an ETA?

 

[Wil]

Even without the price consideration, for my purposes I just prefer the 306...

I can't really speak to the longevity of the 357, since I don't use mine even close to daily. I have heard of people getting 3 months from them, but I don't know what they're willing to accept. I'm sure I could get 3 months out of nearly any atty if I didn't mind them tasting like refried ..... Just because an atty fires, doesn't mean it's still good... I've only popped one atty, but I've gone through many.

Oh, and they're saying soon for their new stuff. Not sure what that means... I'm not an authority on the subject, so could be tomorrow, could be June...

 

[c.chalie]

ok i guess ill just wait to see the new ones about to come out, any idea on an ETA?

also what atty and cartos are best on a VV

 

[Wil]

A higher resistance atomizer will give you the ability to use a larger range of variability. A 1.5 ohm atty on a Provari, for example, won't let you go much above about 4.8V (it will protect itself by throwing an error message and refusing to fire). However, a 1.5 ohm atty at 4.2V is going to be roughly the same experience as a 3.0 ohm atty at 6.0V. Find a style/brand you like, get whatever resistance you want, and find the right voltage for that resistance. I use some eGo-T (and eGo-C) stuff on a Provari regularly, and I buy whatever I can find cheapest (resistance wise) and adjust the voltage for my needs... Though I prefer low resistance, just in case I get stuck using them on an actual eGo battery.

In other words, VV won't change the types of attys or cartos that you like, and VV makes it such that you can use whichever resistance you really want. Voltage squared divided by resistance (ie 4V*4V/1.5Ohms = 10.7 Watts) will give you the number you would use for comparison. 10 watts is 10 watts, whether you get there by increasing voltage on a VV mod or by using low resistance atties is up to you...

Hope that helps.

 

[c.chalie]

yea perfect sence, im an electrical and plumbing and mechanical designer so i know about this stuff, i also think my lavatube will adjust automaticly to "protect" its self so i hear.

does cisco make cartos? i got the tank and i like not having to carry juice around, lol sorry if im asking too meny questions

 

[mynameisrob]

Yeah the lavatube will just automatically drop the voltage, basically to stop you from ruining the carto by burning it and/or popping the coil. With something like a BuzzPro or IPro, it will allow you to fire the carto at too high of a voltage. So basically if you want to ruin a carto and pop the coil, it will let you.

The HH.357 is expensive, but if you use it correctly and take care of it, you can def get your moneys worth. Ive had one for almost 6 months and it still works awesome. I feel ive already easily gotten my moneys worth and I dont see it dying anytime soon. My buddy has been using one for almost 11 months. The HH.357 gives better flavor than any atty Ive ever tried. It picks up undertones of flavors from different juices that go completely unnoticed with other attys. Also the amount of vapor it creates is ridiculous. It works on a vacuum pump, so instead of the slow long pulls you normally take on an ecig, you take short harder pulls. It is def the closest resemblence Ive found to how you take a drag on a real cig. If your someone that likes to take real slow long draws, then the HH.357 prob isnt for you. But if your someone that kind of misses how you used to take drags on a real cig, then the HH.357 is def worth trying

 

[c.chalie]

i dont mind how i pull it i just like a killer TH and lots of vape, i can adjust how i pull, i just may give it a shot....thanks all

 

[c.chalie]

so what ohm should i get to use it to its fullest on the lavatube....2.0?

 

[mynameisrob]

3.0ohm is going to be the most versital on a VV device. You can use a 3.0ohm at about 3.5-4.2V for a cooler vape, and if you want a warmer vape with more TH, you can use a 3.0ohm at 5-6V. So I would say a 3.0ohm would be your best bet if your looking to use a wide range of voltages.
A 2.0ohm would allow you to use 3.0V to about 4.5V-4.8V, but much higher is just going to burn the juice and make it taste like crap.
It all depends on the juice your using too. Tobacco type juices can normally take a higher voltage alittle better before it tastes burnt, while fruit type juices will taste burnt alot faster as you increase the voltage

 

[c.chalie]

3.0ohm is going to be the most versital on a VV device. You can use a 3.0ohm at about 3.5-4.2V for a cooler vape, and if you want a warmer vape with more TH, you can use a 3.0ohm at 5-6V. So I would say a 3.0ohm would be your best bet if your looking to use a wide range of voltages.
A 2.0ohm would allow you to use 3.0V to about 4.5V-4.8V, but much higher is just going to burn the juice and make it taste like crap.
It all depends on the juice your using too. Tobacco type juices can normally take a higher voltage alittle better before it tastes burnt, while fruit type juices will taste burnt alot faster as you increase the voltage

my main juices are 555, ry4, and usa, mainly from NHaler • Smoking Alternatives

 

[mynameisrob]

Well their all tobacco juices, so they can prob handle alittle higher voltages than alot of other juices before they start to taste burnt. Every juice behaves differently though. Your best bet is to try each one at different voltages and see what tastes the best. Heat kills flavor, so if you like a warm vape, you need to find the voltage that gives the juice a good flavor and a warm vape, without tasting burnt. Thats whats nice about VV devices that do .1 increments. You can dial in the voltage to get the juice to taste how you want it

 

[c.chalie]

sweet, thanks, you all are so helpfull...."stay vaping my friend" dos equies refrance