Cartos are king. Still want a tank.

[UberDuper]

I've been using cartos for years. Specifically silver boge 2.0R cartos.

I've tried other cartos and now I've tried protank and vivi nova tanks. I always come back to the boge 2.0R carto.

So next thing to try is a carto tank. I've seen these around forever now and just dismissed them with 'that can't work very well and just looks like a PITA to deal with.'

Does boge make any tank specific cartos?
If not, what's a glass tank that works well with the boge cartos?
I'm gonna need a carto punch and a tank tool? Anything else?
About how long does a carto last in a tank setup? Right now I get 3 to 5 days on a carto depending on juice and how actively I keep it topped off.
Do the tanks hold the carto tight enough that you can (un)screw them onto a battery while full?

Where can I get all of this in one order? The bigdaddyvapor tank tool looks pretty s.... so I checked there first but no glass tanks or punches for sale there.

I know I'm being lazy by not searching, so a pre-thankyou for any answers.

 

[UberDuper]

Looks like phiniac has everything I need but they're a little more expensive then I was expecting.

 

[UncleChuck]

Carto tanks may take a little bit of effort to get everything working correctly (matching up the proper cartos, hole size and number, juice thickness, etc) but once they are running they work great. Same performance and everything else that you normally get from your freshly topped up carto, but with a juice capacity dramatically higher.

Boge makes pre-punched cartos, I know they are around, but I don't know of any retailers selling them (I'm sure there are, I just don't know which ones, I punch my own)

I believe the boge pre-punched are all flanged cartos though, which will work fine with most every tank, but will cause a gap between the tank and your PV due to the flange. Boge tanks and Smoktech tanks are the only ones I'm aware of that are specifically designed to use flanged cartos, although they will work fine with un-flanged as well.

I'd suggest you get an Ibtank at IBTanked - Get Tanked With Us!

I'm not sure what PV you plan on using this with, but their 22mm tanks match up perfectly with many of the current mods out there (as most are around 22mm these days) They also offer 19mm and 25mm tanks, and all their tanks come in standard length (for using regular 35mm cartos) or XL size (for using XL 45mm cartos)

The glass they use is durable and thick, their end caps are machined well and the o-rings hold very tight against the tank and against the carto. I can pick up my Vamo in 18650 mode by my 22mm IBtank, shake it up and down, and the tank still does not budge.

If you want to punch your own cartos, those little carto punches with the metal disc and thumbscrew are super cheap and work well. I've had several, and eventually the threads in the outside metal disc part strip out (the screw is much much harder material than the ring) but they are like 4 bucks and last months before wearing out, fine by me.

You should also check out some blogs by a guy here named "Baditude" he has some very helpful blogs targeted at new carto-tank users, so you should find some great info there.

 

[Liv2Ski]

+1 on what UncleChuck said. Plus the complete IBT tanks come w/ extra o-rings and a DT that doubles as a tank filler (like the big daddy tool).

 

[donesmokin]

Judging by the price I'm guessing just the first item is glass:

ElectronicStix.Com · ALL THE J TANKS IN ONE SPOT

I got tired of wearing out carto punches. I think LR is 2 ohm:

ElectronicStix.Com · 510 Punched Cartomizers

 

[UberDuper]

Thanks. I was just looking at the ibtanked site. Looks like the way to go. Still more expensive then I was expecting.

I'm using a provari mini right now. So I ideally I'd like something that will sit flush with the ring around the top of that.

 

[serenity21899]

+1 IBTanked.

 

[BigEd781]

Well, probably outside your price range, but I love my Prive. Beautiful on a ProVari: prive-a-special-tank-for-provari

Why not tell us what your budget is? Those ibtanked items look relatively inexpensive...

 

[zipthehuh]

I have tanks from cirrus vapes, ibtanked, and phiniac. They all work the same, but the phiniac and cirrus look better.

Side note: I don't know if cirrus vapes customer service is normally this bad, but I had a bear of a time getting replacement orings for it


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[BlueSnake]

Here's a great deal on Boge pre punched cartos. They're great.

5pc Boge 510D XL LR Dual prepunched Cartomizer - Stainless

 

[Baditude]

I suggest a 19mm IBTanked. The standand length tank will take a standard Boge carto; the XL length tank will take a Boge XL length carto as shown in the below graphic. You don't need to punch your own cartomizers for your tanks if you don't want to bother with it; I have a large list of vendors in the link below that sell both lengths of Boge cartomizers with laser-drilled holes.

19mm IBTanked XL on a Mini Provari.

As mentioned above, I have a couple of articles in my blog you may be interested in reading. I have a cartotank tutorial. A review of the IBTanked pyrex tanks. And a large list of vendors that sell pre-punched cartomizers for cartotanks.

E-Cigarette Forum - Baditude - Blogs

 

[UberDuper]

Well, probably outside your price range, but I love my Prive. Beautiful on a ProVari: prive-a-special-tank-for-provari

Why not tell us what your budget is? Those ibtanked items look relatively inexpensive...

What's that screw on there all about? I like the idea of something that's specifically intended to fit the provari, but I don't like the look of that one.

The price isn't really an issue. It's just that I've already spent about $75 on tanks I'm probably not going to use and when I do settle on one, I figure I'll buy 2 or 3.

 

[UberDuper]

I suggest a 19mm IBTanked. The standand length tank will take a standard Boge carto; the XL length tank will take a Boge XL length carto as shown in the below graphic. You don't need to punch your own cartomizers for your tanks if you don't want to bother with it; I have a large list of vendors in the link below that sell both lengths of Boge cartomizers with laser-drilled holes.

View attachment 222407View attachment 222408 19mm IBTanked XL on a Mini Provari.

As mentioned above, I have a couple of articles in my blog you may be interested in reading. I have a cartotank tutorial. A review of the IBTanked pyrex tanks. And a large list of vendors that sell pre-punched cartomizers for cartotanks.

E-Cigarette Forum - Baditude - Blogs

Glad you posted that. I wasn't considering the 19mm ones at all but that's clearly the right size to get.
Checking out your blog now.

 

[Baditude]

Glad you posted that. I wasn't considering the 19mm ones at all but that's clearly the right size to get.
Checking out your blog now.

Above you can see the difference of tank length of the XL and standard length on regular size Provari's.

You can go with a larger capacity tank if you purchase the popular Pro Rings for your Provari. These are "beauty rings" which simply sit between the Provari's body and tank, much like the cone covers that eGo batteries have. Using a Pro Ring, you can go up to a 22mm IBTanked for more juice capacity yet still have an aesthetically pleasing appearance for your Provari.



22mm XL IBTanked on Mini Provari with Pro Ring

IBTanked juice capacities:

19mm standard = 1.5 ml
19mm XL = 2 ml

22mm standard = 3.5 ml
22mm XL = 5 ml

 

[UberDuper]

I'll stick with standard length. Trying to keep the whole pv as small as possible.

 

[UberDuper]

What's the lifespan of a carto in a tank vs. non-tanked?
One of the common problems with cartos after a couple days of use is the draw starts to get tighter. Does that still happen when kept constantly saturated in a tank?

 

[Baditude]

What's the lifespan of a carto in a tank vs. non-tanked?
One of the common problems with cartos after a couple days of use is the draw starts to get tighter. Does that still happen when kept constantly saturated in a tank?

Using a carto in a tank generally prolongs it's longivity, as the constant saturation of juice keeps the polyfill wet. Using just one cartotank with heavy use will decrease the carto's usefulness. Much depends upon the thickness of the juice and the color of the juice. Thicker and darker juices will decrease a carto's life as the filler begins to clog from the particulate matter in these juices. You should be able to get 2 - 4 weeks with thinner and clear juices, 1 - 2 weeks with thicker and darker juices. I typically have a dozen tanks running simultaneously which greatly prolongs the carto's lifespan.

 

[Liv2Ski]

Using a carto in a tank generally prolongs it's longivity, as the constant saturation of juice keeps the polyfill wet. Using just one cartotank with heavy use will decrease the carto's usefulness. Much depends upon the thickness of the juice and the color of the juice. Thicker and darker juices will decrease a carto's life as the filler begins to clog from the particulate matter in these juices. You should be able to get 2 - 4 weeks with thinner and clear juices, 1 - 2 weeks with thicker and darker juices. I typically have a dozen tanks running simultaneously which greatly prolongs the carto's lifespan.

Baditude as usual this is a good answer but often times I find that time spans vary due to differences in individual vaping styles. I run a thin (80/20) juice with light flavor and tend to measure carto life in mls. I blow through about 8-10 mls a day. So for me carto life is about 40 mls and after that I do not feel it owes me a dime. Just offering another way to look at carto life as measured in mls passed through the unit. It may make it easier since a heavy vaper will not think they are doing something wrong if it lasts less than two weeks or maybe a light vaper thinking they have a super carto when it lasts three - four weeks .

 

[UberDuper]

Thank you all for the input. I ordered from IBtanked last night along with some laser punched boges from electronicstix.

Hopefully they get here this weekend. I'm moving to Texas early next week.

 

[Baditude]

Baditude as usual this is a good answer but often times I find that time spans vary due to differences in individual vaping styles. I run a thin (80/20) juice with light flavor and tend to measure carto life in mls. I blow through about 8-10 mls a day. So for me carto life is about 40 mls and after that I do not feel it owes me a dime. Just offering another way to look at carto life as measured in mls passed through the unit. It may make it easier since a heavy vaper will not think they are doing something wrong if it lasts less than two weeks or maybe a light vaper thinking they have a super carto when it lasts three - four weeks .

This is actually an excellent point. It makes much more sense to measure a carto's life in ml's used rather than a unit of time. Using a unit of time does not factor in vaping style, capacity of the tank, thickness or color of the juice, etc. Using a unit of volume is a much more accurate way to express this, and I think I will begin using it. Thanks for the idea.