CBC Radio The Current will discuss Ecigs this morning!
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The rise of E-cigarettes: Helping to quit or encouraging to smoke? | The Current with Anna Maria Tremonti | CBC Radio
Haven't had a chance to listen yet.
Haven't had a chance to listen yet.
At least that first woman interviewed acknowledged "there's virtually no chance an e-cigarette could be as harmful as a tobacco cigarette". Overall though, it's a nugget of gold buried in a pile of SOMEBODY THINK OF THE CHILDREN!!!!! crap. I'm getting so tired of the whole "gateway" argument. vaping is no more a gateway to smoking cigarettes than (OTHER STUFF) is a gateway to (OTHER STUFF).
We don't hear this kind of breathless hand-wringing over alcohol. But of course we don't- that's socially accepted.
We don't hear this kind of breathless hand-wringing over alcohol. But of course we don't- that's socially accepted.
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You know what I truly will believe will save vaping on both a social and business level? Celebrity and other high-profile endorsements. We already have a bunch on our side. Hopefully they feel as strongly about it as we do and want to help. Leonardo DiCaprio is vaping full time now from what I can tell.
As stupid and shallow as celebrity endorsements are, they help.
As stupid and shallow as celebrity endorsements are, they help.
Oh, FFS, I reversed my number on how many cigarettes I haven't had. Vaping has given me dystypeia. I bet it's a gateway to dyslexia and then Alzheimer's. I'm doomed!
It's kind of like when I was a kid and stole that BMX magazine and went on to become an armed robber.
It's kind of like when I was a kid and stole that BMX magazine and went on to become an armed robber.
Hasn't aired here in Vancouver yet. Looks like every media outlet's jumping on the evil e-cig bandwagon, huh? I wonder why. Although they are all kind of an echo-chamber for each other
I listened to the show. I had to laugh at the guest Melody Tilson who agreed that e-cigs are less harmful for the individual than cigarettes, then later states that HC prohibits any health claims such as healthier alternative and if they do so it is illegal. Geez, talk about talking out both sides of your mouth.
Miss Tilson is a policy director with a Non-Smokers Right Association. There concern is e-cigs will normalize smoking. They don't want to see vaping done in the workplace or any other place where smoking isn't allowed. They sound like a "nanny state" group to me. To group vapers with smokers is ridiculous.
All members should listen to this broadcast, which can be heard at the above posted link. This is what we're up against folks.
Miss Tilson is a policy director with a Non-Smokers Right Association. There concern is e-cigs will normalize smoking. They don't want to see vaping done in the workplace or any other place where smoking isn't allowed. They sound like a "nanny state" group to me. To group vapers with smokers is ridiculous.
All members should listen to this broadcast, which can be heard at the above posted link. This is what we're up against folks.
Hey now- they're not jumping on the "evil e-cig bandwagon". They're doing pieces on this because it's big enough now to come to their attention.
And they have a for and an against side. Just because someone says stuff you don't agree with doesn't mean it shouldn't be said. We had "our guy" on there as well and he said his piece.
And they have a for and an against side. Just because someone says stuff you don't agree with doesn't mean it shouldn't be said. We had "our guy" on there as well and he said his piece.
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Wow, the hate for smoking cigarettes is why they hate ecig's even though all the reasons they hate real cigarettes are no longer present. I find it funny some of the blind rage coming from the NSRA.
My response to the CBC The Current
In response to your e-cigarette program aired Jan. 29, 2013. I have been using e-cigarettes for 18 weeks now without touching a tobacco cigarette. Without a doubt my health has improved ten fold. I am addicted to nicotine. If e-cigarette products were removed from the marketplace, I would be smoking tobacco almost immediately. I take exception to the comments that the patches and gums are a proven smoking cessation products. I have used the patch in the past and still smoked a pack of cigarettes a day while on the patch. I don't know anyone who has quit smoking by these methods. To me, these are totally unproven cessation products, yet they contain nicotine. I know many people who have quit using e-cigarettes, and many who have reduced their tobacco intake using this product. I certainly can't say that about what Big Pharma pushes. I personally promote the benefits of e-cigarettes and encourage tobacco smokers to switch. To Melody Tilson of the Non-Smoking Association I would ask, if you realize that e-cigarettes are healthier for the individual than traditional tobacco cigarettes, why are you opposed to advertising them that way? Sorry Miss Tilson, I don't buy the whole gateway thing. E-cigarettes are my gateway off of traditional tobacco.
In response to your e-cigarette program aired Jan. 29, 2013. I have been using e-cigarettes for 18 weeks now without touching a tobacco cigarette. Without a doubt my health has improved ten fold. I am addicted to nicotine. If e-cigarette products were removed from the marketplace, I would be smoking tobacco almost immediately. I take exception to the comments that the patches and gums are a proven smoking cessation products. I have used the patch in the past and still smoked a pack of cigarettes a day while on the patch. I don't know anyone who has quit smoking by these methods. To me, these are totally unproven cessation products, yet they contain nicotine. I know many people who have quit using e-cigarettes, and many who have reduced their tobacco intake using this product. I certainly can't say that about what Big Pharma pushes. I personally promote the benefits of e-cigarettes and encourage tobacco smokers to switch. To Melody Tilson of the Non-Smoking Association I would ask, if you realize that e-cigarettes are healthier for the individual than traditional tobacco cigarettes, why are you opposed to advertising them that way? Sorry Miss Tilson, I don't buy the whole gateway thing. E-cigarettes are my gateway off of traditional tobacco.
Sorry Froghammer - My comments I thought were directed towards Miss Tilson. And yes she has a right to be heard. I just don't agree with her. That's my right.
Um, haven't heard it yet. Not sure where you're getting "says stuff I don't agree with". There is however, a growing amount of media coverage on the subject of electronic cigarettes that has been largely uninformed and therefore largely inaccurate. Do some deep research on general media coverage with a focus on business oriented reporting, and my viewpoint will make more sense.
In the meantime, please don't lecture me on my opinions regarding the media. I live with "the media", and I'm deeply, deeply cynical regarding the accuracy and the impartiality of any media outlet in Canada today, including the CBC. With good reason.
Listening to it now.
I don't agree with the "gateway drug" idea either. That's like saying "if you take asprin, the next step is ......!" (A Big step!) If anything, I think, if someone started using an ecig, and they did try an analog, they wouldn't like the taste or smell.
It's the "cool factor" that matters.
Oh yeah, just hearing the guy from SmokeNV talking about their product. I can get the cartos locally, and I sling out the non nic juice, and use my own in them.
I don't agree with the "gateway drug" idea either. That's like saying "if you take asprin, the next step is ......!" (A Big step!) If anything, I think, if someone started using an ecig, and they did try an analog, they wouldn't like the taste or smell.
It's the "cool factor" that matters.
Oh yeah, just hearing the guy from SmokeNV talking about their product. I can get the cartos locally, and I sling out the non nic juice, and use my own in them.
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Personally, I don't see people starting off with e-cigarettes and then going to tobacco either.
I wasn't referring to your comment. Should have quoted Dashe's. Sorry about that.
What do you think is up with Health Canada not attending the "Non-Smokers Rights Association" meeting tomorrow. Could there be a disconnect? Hmmm.
Do some research? Now who's doing the lecturing?
Be as cynical as you'd like, but the interviewer didn't show any bias that I could detect and had a guest from both sides on. I fail to see how that's anything but balanced.
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