CE3's - Half full then leak! (Mr. Outlaw where are you lol)

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What am I doing wrong? I filled them exactly as shown on card and in the video. They work perfect untill I vape them down to half full, then they start leaking. I did clean them before use as shown in the vid, and blew through them (as shown in the vid). Then saw on the item description page that it saws to not blow through them. Could this be the cause? Didn't seem likely though since they work great untill half full... Also, one of the 3 I've tried had the batt post issue. I pried it down a little. Thought I might have cracked it. The other 2 did not have the batt post problem, but also leak when they get down to being half full. Hating this! These are a great idea and I can really tell the difference in vapor production and taste. But I'm not gonna use them if they're gonna keep leaking. Don't wanna ruin my batts or get my pcc all sticky...
 

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sorry HOPS, same deal here.

you are right, you shouldnt blow through them and I went through the same process of trying to figure out what was wrong. The only thing that I did do was take the tip off my clearo and push in the silicone (carefully); when they get to that point, I make sure that I keep them as horizontal as possible when vaping and once I get it down low enough, I refill them according to Mr. Outlaws video. They didnt leak once I added more.

SI said to make sure that you get the air COMPLETELY out of the syringe, that you make sure you fill it upside down and take the needle while it is upside down.............Contact SI, they will likely help you.

I would try these thing but everyone here was as stumped as you and I. I have some that are working and they are glorious but the ones that dont are about 50%.
 

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The 3rd one I was super careful. I did not blow through it, but I did clean it by taking it apart (again like the vid). Only blew through the other 2 in the cleaning process to get the water out (again like the vid). Doesn't make any sense, if blowing through them when cleaning was the cause, why wouldn't they leak right off the bat?
So you're saying you re-fill when you get half full and it prevents the leak? Great for home, but don't want to put them in my pcc (been taking them off the batt and putting them in the non-charging slot).Wonder if the new ones the're coming out with (that don't need a syringe) will work better. I hope so, the concept is freakin awesome!
Side note, How'd you get your SI Volt signature banner? I want to represent my brand (they've been good to me so far), but when I click on the ones I've seen just takes me to their website or a blank page?
 

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The 3rd one I was super careful. I did not blow through it, but I did clean it by taking it apart (again like the vid). Only blew through the other 2 in the cleaning process to get the water out (again like the vid). Doesn't make any sense, if blowing through them when cleaning was the cause, why wouldn't they leak right off the bat?
So you're saying you re-fill when you get half full and it prevents the leak? Great for home, but don't want to put them in my pcc (been taking them off the batt and putting them in the non-charging slot).Wonder if the new ones the're coming out with (that don't need a syringe) will work better. I hope so, the concept is freakin awesome!
Side note, How'd you get your SI Volt signature banner? I want to represent my brand (they've been good to me so far), but when I click on the ones I've seen just takes me to their website or a blank page?

They say not to blow through them once they are full, it affects the seal and you should think of it as a straw with your finger on it......if a little air gets in one side, it will all come out. I didnt take them apart to clean them, I did dry burn the primer out with a manual (you can do this with an X2 auto too) but I have only taken one completely apart.

The leaking stops when I refill them with the same issue. They only leak when I vape with them though.......get it to the leaking point and then keep it on the bat side and the mouth peice side for about 15 mins each....if it doesnt leak then, it isnt going to leak. I think there is a issue somewhere but honestly, I havent found it yet...........if it makes you feel better, a few of the ones that did leak I have got to work on a second fill or by the tricks I mentioned.

There is a sticky on the banner.........FAQ or newbie
 

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I'm sorry, I keep reading what I type and thinking it isnt clear. Either I am tired or there is a CO2 leak in my house right now. Start here:

clean them/dry burn them to get the primer out, fill your syringe and tap the syringe with your finger to get the air bubbles in the syringe out. Then push the plunger until you hear the air come out (have a napkin ready) Check to make sure there is no air in the syringe. Take your syringe and make sure you carefully poke through the silicone with the CE3 upside down, fill it sloooooooowly and what I would suggest is put 1.2ml only in the syringe so you dont over-fill it. Take the needle out while it is still upside down, swirl it about a bit while upside down and then set it bat side down for a few minutes. If you are 100% sure you have this part right....

Mine leak when they get 1/2 way or 2/3's down. when this happened:

I found that refilling them stopped them from leaking right away. So when I heard the gurgle, I cleaned out the bat, the mouth peice and followed Mr. Outlaw's video for refilling. I also found that taking the tip of my clearo (when empty) and pushing in the center post with the silicone in the CE3 helped......When it gets to that point, keeping the CE3 horizontal so that the juice isnt all at the bottom helped too and I took ones that leaked all the way down by keeping it horizontal (keeping it horizontal while vaping only I mean). Some worked fine on a second or third fill

I also read that putting the silicone back in the CE3 wet would help with the seal and I was told not to mess with it too much. What I did with a leaking one is clean it and set it on the mouth peice side for 15 minutes (I only cleaned it out, nothing else) and no juice leaked on my napkin. I put it the other way and still no leak so I deduced that the ones that leaked, only leaked when I actually used them so I could still carry them around.

I personally think this is a QC issue and I too, hope the new ones work. I LOVE the concept and when these work, they are awesome. I have been trying to systematically break down each step and each peice to figure out why it is leaking and the only thing that I have found is a poor seated center post, meaning that the leaking CE3 that I took apart.......the center post came out REALLY easy and according to others here, easier than it should have been....>BUT, these are fragile and if you arent careful with your messing about, you may break something that works. There were a few that I just re-did the process from the beginning and they are now working.

Keep trying things and if you come up with something, let me know because I am out of options
 

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I've done everything just like you said for filling (except for only putting in 1.2ml, I've just been filling to the line where the center post meets the coil/wick assembly). Only thing I haven't tried is the refill before they get half empty. I'll still mess with them at home, but not into fiddling with them while I'm on break at work, or just out and about. Blank carto's it is for now I guess...
 

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I've done everything just like you said for filling (except for only putting in 1.2ml, I've just been filling to the line where the center post meets the coil/wick assembly). Only thing I haven't tried is the refill before they get half empty. I'll still mess with them at home, but not into fiddling with them while I'm on break at work, or just out and about. Blank carto's it is for now I guess...

I'm pretty new at this, and (thankfully) haven't had this problem, but perhaps you should try to fill it to just below the hole where the juice seems to enter the coil. There is a line just below that hole and that's where I fill to. That way there is less air above the liquid and, therefore, less pressure inside that could cause a leak. Of course, I may not know what I'm talking about - just trying to help.
 

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I'm pretty new at this, and (thankfully) haven't had this problem, but perhaps you should try to fill it to just below the hole where the juice seems to enter the coil. There is a line just below that hole and that's where I fill to. That way there is less air above the liquid and, therefore, less pressure inside that could cause a leak. Of course, I may not know what I'm talking about - just trying to help.
Any/all input is appreciated! I want these to work so freakin bad! I think we're talking about the same line though...
 

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I don't take mine apart to clean them. I slowly inject water in them - the CE3 upside down, draw back into syringe, push back in - a few times. I've done this before any filling, or to clean and change flavors. I've re-used three with no problem. A fourth I was too vigorous with when cleaning and it made cracking noises when I vaped so I tossed it. If you take them apart you may disrupt the pressure and not get it right again.
Just some ideas anyway.
 
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I think I have a solution for this whole CE3 issue..............make it a buck cheaper and add one more CE3 to the pack. A 50% success rate with 6 total, that costs the same as a 5 pack of cartos is a steal and I will loyally but these in bulk.


have no fear,pretty soon after the new ones come out,you should not have your problems.

Larry
 

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I've done everything just like you said for filling (except for only putting in 1.2ml, I've just been filling to the line where the center post meets the coil/wick assembly). Only thing I haven't tried is the refill before they get half empty. I'll still mess with them at home, but not into fiddling with them while I'm on break at work, or just out and about. Blank carto's it is for now I guess...
It sounds like you'r not filling it enough. If you're talking about just filling it to where the center post get's fat, then that's not full enough.

I fill to the bottom of the wicks or the line where the center post inserts into the atomizer assembly leaving just a very small bubble of air. It's very hard to see where that line on the instruction card is actually pointing to.

Here's what I wrote in the thread you posted in the new member's forum...

I’ve been using CE3’s exclusively for the last 2 months and have had no problems with them.

The only thing that will cause the leaking is a loss of pressure.
1) Fill upside down
2) Fill it up completely. I fill to the bottom of the wicks just leaving a very small bubble of air
3) If you take it apart, make sure you put the top seal in correctly and right side up
4) Check the outer tube for any cracks
5) One of the most critical parts is poking through the fill hole the first time. If you destroyed its ability to reseal…it will leak.

The only times I’ve had leaking like you indicate is when I butchered the fill hole preventing a good seal and one that had fine stress cracks around where the base is inserted into the tube. All the other ones have worked great for about a month of daily refills with complete disassemblies for weekly cleanings.
 
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Any/all input is appreciated! I want these to work so freakin bad! I think we're talking about the same line though...

One other thing i have found, if i take a big strong draw on them it can cause some leaking. Try taking a slow weak hit on it.

I could down a smoke in a minute or so, it has been an adjustement. 20 to 30 years of doing one thing is a tough habit to break. The amount of clothes i have had throw away becaose of hot ashes pales in comparison to any troubles so far for me.
 

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No, I am filling past that. There is a distinct line where the center post seats into the coil/wick assembly (approx 1mm below the wicks...
That sounds about right. I usually go to between there and the bottom of the wicks, but I think where you're filling them is just fine.
 
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