Changing 6mg to 12mg..how much nic to add?

[PeytonMontana]

Hi,

I have a 30mg bottle of 6mg eliquid and I want to change it to 12. Does anyone know how many drops or mls I should add to get it to 12? I tried some calculators but it was confusing because I couldn’t get any of them to take into account that the starting mixture was already at a 6mg. Thanks

 

[ShamrockPat]

At a bare minimum, one would need to know the strength in mg/ml of the nic you have.

 

[Shadav]

if you are adding just nic (and then also pg/vg) you will dilute the flavor

your best bet is to get the same juice in 18mg....add the 6 and 18 in equal parts so 6+18=24/2=12

 

[rosesense]

According to the calculator, add 1.8 ml (1.86 grams) to a full 30ml to get 12mg nic (6 added to 6 already in the mix).

 

[IDJoel]

This is a useful on-line calculator for adjusting nic strength:
Nic Shot Calculator
Just enter your correct data as described below

(Remember; data (and therefore... results) will only be as accurate, as the information you provide. Eyeball "guess-tamates" will only give you ballpark results. Measure for precise results.)

 

[Hawise]

If you'd rather calculate it yourself than use a calculator, here's the formula:

volume to add:

[(initial volume) * (target concentration - initial concentration)] ÷ [concentration of nicotine base - target concentration]

If you're using 100 mg/ml base, that would be:

[30 ml * (12 mg/ml - 6 mg/ml)] ÷ [100 mg/ml - 12 mg/ml] = 2 ml

 

[PeytonMontana]

Thanks everyone, I recently quit smoking (almost) and so I'm learning as I go.

I'd buy the same eliquid in a stronger mg but the one I'm using is sold at 6mg max. I tried about 15 or more flavors and this one was the only one that came close to where I could say I could maybe quit. I vape most of the time but still smoke b/c I crave more nic. (I'm vaping on an Innokin T18ii).

The nic I bought is 100 mg/ml (small 15ml bottle).

The eliquid I have is 75vg/25pg.

I'll try the nic shot calculator but its almost like greek to me.

 

[PeytonMontana]

This is a useful on-line calculator for adjusting nic strength:
Nic Shot Calculator
Just enter your correct data as described below
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(Remember; data (and therefore... results) will only be as accurate, as the information you provide. Eyeball "guess-tamates" will only give you ballpark results. Measure for precise results.)

Thank you for this! Super helpful, I think I have it now. I'm going to test with a small 5 ml portion.

 

[Opinionated]

Thanks everyone, I recently quit smoking (almost) and so I'm learning as I go.

I'd buy the same eliquid in a stronger mg but the one I'm using is sold at 6mg max. I tried about 15 or more flavors and this one was the only one that came close to where I could say I could maybe quit. I vape most of the time but still smoke b/c I crave more nic. (I'm vaping on an Innokin T18ii).

The nic I bought is 100 mg/ml (small 15ml bottle).

The eliquid I have is 75vg/25pg.

I'll try the nic shot calculator but its almost like greek to me.

When your using a regular eliquid calculator don't add your target strength, just add the strength you want to increase the mix by.

In your case you wanted an additional 6mg/ml of nicotine in your mix, so instead of asking to calculator to add 12mg then subtract 6mg - which most calculators don't have the input ability to do - just tell the calculator that your target strength is 6mg since that is what you'd like to add.

That way your adding the correct amount and not having to use a more complicated calculator.

 

[IDJoel]

Thank you for this! Super helpful, I think I have it now. I'm going to test with a small 5 ml portion.

@PeytonMontana, welcome and congratulations on deciding to move away from the stinkies!

Based on the additional information you provided (that you are using 100mg/mL nicotine, and that you intend to try a 5mL tester first); this is what the nic shot calculator would look like, with the appropriate values plugged in:

Or, using the pencil and paper method @Hawise shared, it would look like this:
[5mL x (12mg/mL - 6mg/mL)] ÷ [100mg/mL - 12mg/mL] = ?
[5mL x 6mg/mL] ÷ 88mL = ?
30mL ÷ 88mL = 0.340909mL ≈ 0.34mL

As you can see, both methods arrive at the same result.

I applaud your desire to quit, as well as your willingness to make any needed adjustments. I remember when I stopped smoking. I was a pack and a half a day smoker (American Spirit Blues) for 30 years. With my cigarette consumption, and the vaping hardware I was using at the time; it was recommended that I start out with 18mg/mL e-liquid. It kinda-sorta worked but didn't fully scratch my addiction itch. So, I bumped the nicotine level to 24mg/mL. That did the trick.

I don't know if it was just inadequate nicotine to start, or my body missing all those other addictive chemicals and the extra nicotine was compensating for their absence... but it allowed me to quit. I didn't have to stay at that level very long either. Within just a week or two; I was back down to the 18mg/mL. 4-5 months later, I was down to 12mg/mL. And, over the course of the next 12 months, I weaned myself down to 4mg/mL.

I am not suggesting that you need to use the same strengths I did. This was 6 years ago; and hardware was much different then. I also have no idea what your smoking habits are. I only share my own experience to offer encouragement, and to say "listen to your body." It will tell you what it needs.

I wish you all the best in your efforts to quit. Sing out if you need any further assistance.

 

[PeytonMontana]

@PeytonMontana
I applaud your desire to quit, as well as your willingness to make any needed adjustments. I remember when I stopped smoking. I was a pack and a half a day smoker (American Spirit Blues) for 30 years. With my cigarette consumption, and the vaping hardware I was using at the time; it was recommended that I start out with 18mg/mL e-liquid. It kinda-sorta worked but didn't fully scratch my addiction itch. So, I bumped the nicotine level to 24mg/mL. That did the trick.

Thank you so much for the math and encouragement. I've smoked almost 30 years too and it's stories like yours that give me the hope that I can do this. Again, thank you so much!

 

[IDJoel]

Thank you so much for the math and encouragement. I've smoked almost 30 years too and it's stories like yours that give me the hope that I can do this. Again, thank you so much!

You're most welcome. ECF is a great place for information and support! The wonderful folks here, are irreplaceable, in my own vaping journey.

Vaping may not be the answer for everyone. That's okay. Whether it is: nicotine replacement therapy (NRT; like patches, gum, lozenges, etc.), Stop Smoking programs like those offered by the American Lung Association, prescription meds like Chantix, hypnosis, acupuncture, or just plain old cold turkey; there is something to help just about every one.

The magic is to never give up. Keep persisting, and eventually, you will succeed. A moment of weakness is not utter failure. If you stumble, don't give up... continue on.

For me, when I started vaping, it was with a mindset that I was only interested in reducing my cigarette consumption. I still had half a pack of cigarettes left.

After going the first 24 hours with out lighting up; I thought to myself "this could actually work." I moved all the ashtrays out to the garage. I got rid of all my lighters and match books. And, I put the pack of cigarettes out of sight, in an unused drawer. But... I never told myself I couldn't have another smoke. I just made it rather inconvenient.

Then, it became sort of a game for me. How long could I go without lighting up? 24 hours became 36. Then 48. And, so on it went. When the desire was strong; I thought in terms of minutes:
"I will not smoke for 10 more minutes; I'll vape instead. Then, if I still want one, I'll go smoke." Usually, that was enough for the craving to pass. Vaping helped, and/or I would get distracted by becoming involved doing something else. But, when it wasn't; I didn't beat myself up, and kept right on going.

At the end of my first 12 months (after starting to vape), I still had 4 of the original 10 cigarettes I had started out with. I also noticed; when I did light up, I enjoyed it less. I smoked less of each cigarette lit. They made me feel sick/queasy. They tasted nasty (I am sure the increasing staleness helped). My mouth tasted gross after. And, there was no enjoyment... no payoff... in doing so.

The last time I lit up (about 18-20 months after I started vaping), the very act of lighting it was enough. I stubbed it out, and threw the remaining 2 cigarettes in the trash. I have had no desire to have another.

I am not saying this is the way everyone should quit... it is only the way that worked for me. Keep trying... until you find what works for you. You can do it!