Check my maths for mothers milk - by react

[Mackan1]

SB Mother's Milk %100 Exact Clone !
By @react

I am not sure how to link his recipe page hope this works. His page has been closed so not able to post this topic in there for help.
SB Mother's Milk %100 Exact Clone !

His recipe shows

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  • Cake Batter (CAP) %2
  • Cinnamon Spice (TPA) %0.1
  • Cream Fresh (FA) %1.5
  • Graham Cracker (Clear) (TPA) %3.5
  • Sweet Strawberry (CAP) %6.5
  • Vanilla Custard v1 (CAP) %6
  • Marshmallow (TPA) %1
  • Vanillin 10% (TPA) %1

I would like someone to check my maths before I even start with this.

Flavor

Mix - 100Ml

Also would i be able to make a bottle of just 100% flavor (says 50ml) and add my PG/VG/NIC later on?

Thanks all

 

[retired1]

Moved to DIY e-liquid as this isn't a "finished" recipe.

 

[Mackan1]

anyone?

 

[Capt.shay]

Ummmmm........ Why did you put the percentages in the ML column? It kind of works in this case but only because you are making 100ml and 1ml happens to make for 1% in this case but you need to put the percentages in the percentages column.

 

[Mackan1]

Ummmmm........ Why did you put the percentages in the ML column? It kind of works in this case but only because you are making 100ml and 1ml happens to make for 1% in this case but you need to put the percentages in the percentages column.

this has confused me. the ml are in the ml Coloum and same with percentages, the percentages stay the same but if i change "the amount to be made" the ml would change depending on how many ml I want to make. i only picked 100ML as a example (all the white boxes can be changed and the blue boxes do the calculations) . my 1st attempt would be 10ml bottle. but before i started i thought i would get it checked out.

or do you mean why does it come up percentages then ML. well this is so all the ML, Drops and G/ML are all together.

E.G if i was to make 30ML it should show as

 

[VNeil]

Looks about right but if you add up his flavor percentages it totals 21.6% not 22.6%. I didn't check for the error.

I've premixed flavors only. Works well. No opinion on the effect on steep time.

I recommend you make a 10% solution of cinnamon spice by mixing 1 part cinnamon to 9 parts VG. Then treat it as a 1% flavoring. Makes small batches possible and allows for fine tuning. You will then have 22.5% total flavoring.

This has been my ADV for some time. I make 400ml at a time

 

[Capt.shay]

this has confused me. the ml are in the ml Coloum and same with percentages, the percentages stay the same but if i change "the amount to be made" the ml would change depending on how many ml I want to make. i only picked 100ML as a example (all the white boxes can be changed and the blue boxes do the calculations)

My bad. I was reading the table wrong. Your calculator is set up differently than mine.

 

[ReacT]

I recommend you make a 10% solution of cinnamon spice by mixing 1 part cinnamon to 9 parts VG. Then treat it as a 1% flavoring. Makes small batches possible and allows for fine tuning. You will then have 22.5% total flavoring.

This has been my ADV for some time. I make 400ml at a time

@Mackan1
Very important point and I agree with VNeil. Using cinnamon spice directly can ruin the mix, make solution and mix it well then use it at %1. I use it directly but I have a plastic dropper tool that drops very little.

I also recommend vanilla custad v1 to be %4 or even %3 for some people who find it overwhelming after 3 months of steeping. It is good at %6 when you vape it between 25 days to 50 days. But if you steep this formula over 3 months, go %3 or %4 for vanilla custard v1.

 

[VNeil]

@Mackan1
Very important point and I agree with VNeil. Using cinnamon spice directly can ruin the mix, make solution and mix it well then use it at %1. I use it directly but I have a plastic dropper tool that drops very little.

I also recommend vanilla custad v1 to be %4 or even %3 for some people who find it overwhelming after 3 months of steeping. It is good at %6 when you vape it between 25 days to 50 days. But if you steep this formula over 3 months, go %3.5 or %4 for vanilla custard v1.

Also please use ejuiceme up program if you can. Your program really confused me. It says %9 cake batter which is wrong to me.

Good to see you weigh in here, @react. You're my hero because I love, love, love this recipe just as it is. You just can't fix perfection

The reason for his strange percentages is that he built two recipes, the first flavoring only. So if you are mixing just the flavors then the 2% cake batter works out to about 9% of the flavoring only mix. I didn't check his math but it eyeballed reasonably except he's off by around 5% because of the 1% error somewhere in there that I mentioned.

The recipe is amazingly close to the original and I've compared side by side in identical dripping setups.
There is something missing but I'm not good enough at this to identify it. It is very subtle though.

I have a friend who loves mm but swears mine is better.

 

[ReacT]

Good to see you weigh in here, @react. You're my hero because I love, love, love this recipe just as it is. You just can't fix perfection

The reason for his strange percentages is that he built two recipes, the first flavoring only. So if you are mixing just the flavors then the 2% cake batter works out to about 9% of the flavoring only mix. I didn't check his math but it eyeballed reasonably except he's off by around 5% because of the 1% error somewhere in there that I mentioned.

The recipe is amazingly close to the original and I've compared side by side in identical dripping setups.
There is something missing but I'm not good enough at this to identify it. It is very subtle though.

I have a friend who loves mm but swears mine is better.

I'm glad you love it my friend. It is true, the perfection cannot be fixed Did you know I'm unable to vape this recipe with cinnamon because I'm allergic to cinnamon. My nose is like that, I can smell like a dog lol. But I do make it without cinnamon for my self. It is more close with cinnamon to the real thing. I didnt want to play with this recipe any more as it was close enough to not to pay for the original bottle. I guess the little missing part probably a kind of cream also cake batter should be tested at %1 instead 2. For me no need to change it anymore. The one thing has made me sad in the past after I share this recipe, I noticed some people made this recipe and sell it as original mothers milk in some 3rd countries as an original with the original price. I even received a sample from a friend about it, including duplicated bottle and the moment I vape it, I realized that it was my formula. I dont care if people sell the juice but selling it as an original and the same price is not good.

I do make clone recipes but I share them for the people who cannot buy the original, I do respect the original work. The only reason I'm creating clone recipes is that I live in a country where it is very hard to get the original for me. If I were living in US, I would not even touch or ask about PG or VG lol, I would buy some fivepawns and some other brands every month. Because I hate to make liquids now. I spend 3 years and become almost a chemist, I even do make my own banana flavor from some chemicals and hated to make liquid any more lol. Also hated to smell tons of flavors.

 

[VNeil]

I'm glad you love it my friend. It is true, the perfection cannot be fixed Did you know I'm unable to vape this recipe with cinnamon because I'm allergic to cinnamon. My nose is like that, I can smell like a dog lol. But I do make it without cinnamon for my self. It is more close with cinnamon to the real thing. I didnt want to play with this recipe any more as it was close enough to not to pay for the original bottle. I guess the little missing part probably a kind of cream also cake batter should be tested at %1 instead 2. For me no need to change it anymore. The one thing has made me sad in the past after I share this recipe, I noticed some people made this recipe and sell it as original mothers milk in some 3rd countries as an original with the original price. I even received a sample from a friend about it, including duplicated bottle and the moment I vape it, I realized that it was my formula. I dont care if people sell the juice but selling it as an original and the same price is not good.

I do make clone recipes but I share them for the people who cannot buy the original, I do respect the original work. The only reason I'm creating clone recipes is that I live in a country where it is very hard to get the original for me. If I were living in US, I would not even touch or ask about PG or VG lol, I would buy some fivepawns and some other brands every month. Because I hate to make liquids now. I spend 3 years and become almost a chemist, I even do make my own banana flavor from some chemicals and hated to make liquid any more lol. Also hated to smell tons of flavors.

Thanks for sharing all that!

 

[OBAI ABED]

I'm glad you love it my friend. It is true, the perfection cannot be fixed Did you know I'm unable to vape this recipe with cinnamon because I'm allergic to cinnamon. My nose is like that, I can smell like a dog lol. But I do make it without cinnamon for my self. It is more close with cinnamon to the real thing. I didnt want to play with this recipe any more as it was close enough to not to pay for the original bottle. I guess the little missing part probably a kind of cream also cake batter should be tested at %1 instead 2. For me no need to change it anymore. The one thing has made me sad in the past after I share this recipe, I noticed some people made this recipe and sell it as original mothers milk in some 3rd countries as an original with the original price. I even received a sample from a friend about it, including duplicated bottle and the moment I vape it, I realized that it was my formula. I dont care if people sell the juice but selling it as an original and the same price is not good.

I do make clone recipes but I share them for the people who cannot buy the original, I do respect the original work. The only reason I'm creating clone recipes is that I live in a country where it is very hard to get the original for me. If I were living in US, I would not even touch or ask about PG or VG lol, I would buy some fivepawns and some other brands every month. Because I hate to make liquids now. I spend 3 years and become almost a chemist, I even do make my own banana flavor from some chemicals and hated to make liquid any more lol. Also hated to smell tons of flavors.

you are really very nice , i am from a 3rd countries and really we can not buy ejuice from Usa ,,, and it is very very helpful for us becuse it is not allowed to export the e-juice

 

[Mackan1]

Have changed it from 22.6 down to 21.6
Thanks for pointing this out. @VNeil

@react and @VNeil I use syringe's to do my measuring down to 0.05ml. (i might start of with 0.05ml and can add more if needed)
I am kinda new to the hole DIY thing.

@react If u where to make 100Ml what would your measurements be if you followed your recipe to see if mines matches up?

 

[VNeil]

Have changed it from 22.6 down to 21.6
Thanks for pointing this out. @VNeil

@react and @VNeil I use syringe's to do my measuring down to 0.05ml. (i might start of with 0.05ml and can add more if needed)
I am kinda new to the hole DIY thing.

@react If u where to make 100Ml what would your measurements be if you followed your recipe to see if mines matches up?

If you use a blunt tip needle, that needle will contain up to 0.1ml or so of liquid unaccounted for by the syringe graduations.

If you leave any air in the syringe you will get a similar error of about 0.1ml.

I do not believe you can accurately measure out 0.05ml no matter how you do it, without very expensive lab equipment.

If you think you can I would suggest independently verifying that but I haven't a clue how you would do that....

And for the record, I own a scale widely recommended here, and syringes. I use both depending on what I'm doing and my mood. I have tested these things to the extent I can....