Check out RJR's version of the Janty Stick

[steven.rn]

Thankss to Sherid for pointing out this article on the NOVA (public TV) website on alternatives to smoking- RJR or BW had developed this thing that you put some sort of special cigarette inside, and it has a battery and switch, etc...

Here's some quoted text:

"Philip Morris is testing its own high-tech cigarette called Accord, which has been described as a cigarette encased in a kazoo-shaped lighter. Consumers buy a $40 kit that includes a battery charger, a puff-activated lighter that holds the cigarette, and a carton of special cigarettes. To smoke the cigarettes, a smoker sucks on the kazoolike box. A microchip senses the puff and sends a burst of heat to the cigarette. The process gives the smoker one drag and does not create ashes or smoke. An illuminated display shows the number of puffs remaining, and the batteries must be recharged after every pack. It's unclear whether smokers will find the low-smoke and -ash benefits desirable enough to justify learning an entirely new smoking ritual. Although Philip Morris doesn't make health claims about Accord, the company in 1998 told the Society of Toxicology that Accord generated 83 percent fewer toxins than a regular cigarette."


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[kinabaloo]

The thing is, those products made only marginal improvements in toxin levels and did not win favor with consumers.

The e-cig wins hands down on both those counts

 

[nitewriter]

Here's some quoted text:

" and a carton of special cigarettes.

I wonder what they put in there that made them "special"?

 

[Elendil]

Is that like "special" brownies?

 

[nitewriter]

I hope not.

 

[ramblingrose]

I wonder what they put in there that made them "special"?

They had tobacco. "Special" in that they're designed to heat the tobacco without actual combustion. Paper burns, so if you tried to put a regular cigarette in it the Accord's chip would know and not ignite.

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[fiddler]

If I want a .... I'll smoke a ...., and there's no if, ands or buts about it!

And I don't need a furschluggener kazoo to do it with either!

RJR you gave me f**kin cancer so you can eat your tobacco and die!

 

[nitewriter]

I'm sure it didn't take any chemicals to make the tobacco noncombustable. (jk)

That's one of my concerns now, what they would add to our liquids if they do eventually market them.

Maybe they would be better, ...but maybe not. Would they be honest with us about the ingredients? Would you trust them more than the Chinese?

 

[steven.rn]

Well, they DO have what it takes to make a lot of e-juice. Ya know one day they will figure out that this is where the entire cig market, or the vast majority of it, is gonna end up in the US- sooner or later, a few zillion smokers will dump cigs for vaping- and they got a buncha capital to start marketing anything they please.

You guys think they will ever get in the vaping market?

Steve

 

[saintgadreel]

I would hazard a guess that they do indeed intend to go into the market. If you've been following the events in the senate, you'll notice the politicians backing the bill never really mention e-cigs, and thats probably because PM has special plans for launching them in a way that either undermines the bills verbage, or they have already been working towards approval under a name that is not obvious to those digging through records.

I gaurantee that once their competition from overseas is under lock and key by the FDA, we will see some version of e-cig produced, approved, and sold by good ol Big Tobacco. Considering the number of tobacco schills out there now working in the FDA apparently among other places, they will probably easily be able to undermine testing results, and find a new way to make a whole new level of addiction possible.

I hate to think it, but someday, if BT has their way, harm reduction will just be a new vehicle for unstoppable addiction with no loss of customers....

This is all speculation, mind you, but if we look at history, a pattern seems to emerge.....

 

[Ann]

That thing sounds nasty. Thank goodness for my PV.

 

[sherid]

Thankss to Sherid for pointing out this article on the NOVA (public TV) website on alternatives to smoking- RJR or BW had developed this thing that you put some sort of special cigarette inside, and it has a battery and switch, etc...

Here's some quoted text:

"Philip Morris is testing its own high-tech cigarette called Accord, which has been described as a cigarette encased in a kazoo-shaped lighter. Consumers buy a $40 kit that includes a battery charger, a puff-activated lighter that holds the cigarette, and a carton of special cigarettes. To smoke the cigarettes, a smoker sucks on the kazoolike box. A microchip senses the puff and sends a burst of heat to the cigarette. The process gives the smoker one drag and does not create ashes or smoke. An illuminated display shows the number of puffs remaining, and the batteries must be recharged after every pack. It's unclear whether smokers will find the low-smoke and -ash benefits desirable enough to justify learning an entirely new smoking ritual. Although Philip Morris doesn't make health claims about Accord, the company in 1998 told the Society of Toxicology that Accord generated 83 percent fewer toxins than a regular cigarette."


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http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/campaigning/18610-accord.html Check out this discussion of the Accord

 

[Kate51]

Thankss to Sherid for pointing out this article on the NOVA (public TV) website on alternatives to smoking- RJR or BW had developed this thing that you put some sort of special cigarette inside, and it has a battery and switch, etc...

[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, Geneva, Sans-Serif]Uh.... I hope NOONE here snitches to them about e-juice- Shhhhh......[/FONT]


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Thank your for that! I have never been able to find what their device looked like! You're pretty good!

 

[Kate51]

And I don't need a furschluggener kazoo to do it with either!

WHAT is that word, is it naughty, can't you just say it en englase

 

[Kate51]

The thing is, those products made only marginal improvements in toxin levels and did not win favor with consumers.

The e-cig wins hands down on both those counts

You are right about that, this feflugener(sp???_ ) thing started in the 60's, 70's, cigarettes were $.35 a pack, and I don't know what percentages of people smoked or chewed or whatever. But more did than did not smoke.
It was a freakin pasttime cause we didn't have pornography yet!! Not in our neighborhood.
We had cows.

 

[steven.rn]

You are right about that, this feflugener(sp???_ ) thing started in the 60's, 70's, cigarettes were $.35 a pack, and I don't know what percentages of people smoked or chewed or whatever. But more did than did not smoke.
It was a freakin pasttime cause we didn't have pornography yet!! Not in our neighborhood.
We had cows.

Lessee.... cowtipping or porno.... cowtipping or porno... decisions, decisions

 

[Kate51]

Lessee.... cowtipping or porno.... cowtipping or porno... decisions, decisions

Well. I don't know what cow "tipping" is, but I sure didn't know what porno was!
We often joke about getting our fist tv set in 1961, a used one!
If Dad had seen just one of those commercials they make now, there still wouldn't be any tv! Would have set back the whole industry at least another 100 years.