Chocolate flavors, steep time, suggested percentages ?

[Trail]

Hey I'm having trouble with getting both my chocolate flavors right.

I have tried TPA Double Clear Chocolate at 5% but didn't get much flavor, and it seems to take a month of steeping ??
A test bottle with 10% is steeping for a week now and tastes awfully un-steeped.

I have also tried Cappella - Milk Chocolate Toffee at 15% but its only been steeping for a week, don't dare tasting it.

Of these two flavors, what percentages do you guys use for standalone flavor and as a side-note flavor mixed with other flavors?

Also, how long do you think these two flavors need to steep ?

Thanks,
~Trail.

 

[SoUnique]

Unfortunately, chocolate is a flavore that needs steeping. Try doing a quick steep, in a cup of rice, heated in the microwave.

Also, a drop or 2 of coffee in it will help bring out the chocolate flavore.

 

[HeadInClouds]

You are now at the same percentages I arrived at for those two flavors. I decided I just don't care for TFA chocolates; there is some background note in all of them that I don't especially like. I have a lot already mixed and hate to waste, though. It's okay tasting to me when mixed with minty flavors, like Creme de Menthe.

The CAP tasted more toffee than chocolate to me and sort of weak. But it was not pleasant to me when I went over 15%. I'm apparently in the minority here, but Capella's chocolate flavors don't especially float my boat.

There are 3 chocolates I actually like out of the many I've collected: Flavor West's Double Dutch, Flavour Art's Cocoa, and Flavour Art's Chocolate. Those are the only ones I use in recipes that are primarily chocolate. As much as I'd like to vape pure chocolate flavor, I have yet to find one that's great all by itself. Even my favorite 3 get sweetener, cream, vanilla, or some other additions.

 

[dannyv45]

Taste before you steep it so you have a baseline to judge improvement. Chocolate is very hard to get right. I like the chocolate cream by hangsen. All other's seemed to fall flat to me. They do improve after weeks of steeping.

 

[glasseye]

I thought the Cap MC Toffee was good in a mix but it does take awhile, at least 2 weeks. Have you tried Cap Chocolate Fudge Brownie? It's good but one you'll have to dial in your own percentages. I've mixed it up to 8% and it's very strong and rich, bordering on bitter- almost tasting like the well-done-almost-burnt edges of a brownie. But it's good at lower percentages too, I think it's Levitas that goes to 1% or less?. I think it would make a good additive for the other chocolates to bump up the flavor.
The exhale can be quite acrid to bystanders when mixed at the higher percentage. My son is banned from vaping CFB at work. lol

 

[dannyv45]

Burnt taste and even powdery taste seems to be my issue with a lot of the chocolates.

 

[ut1205]

You are now at the same percentages I arrived at for those two flavors. I decided I just don't care for TFA chocolates; there is some background note in all of them that I don't especially like. I have a lot already mixed and hate to waste, though. It's okay tasting to me when mixed with minty flavors, like Creme de Menthe.

The CAP tasted more toffee than chocolate to me and sort of weak. But it was not pleasant to me when I went over 15%. I'm apparently in the minority here, but Capella's chocolate flavors don't especially float my boat.

There are 3 chocolates I actually like out of the many I've collected: Flavor West's Double Dutch, Flavour Art's Cocoa, and Flavour Art's Chocolate. Those are the only ones I use in recipes that are primarily chocolate. As much as I'd like to vape pure chocolate flavor, I have yet to find one that's great all by itself. Even my favorite 3 get sweetener, cream, vanilla, or some other additions.

I have a batch of FW Double Dutch steeping right now. I mixed at 15% and after one week it has a perfume taste. What percentage do you mix yours at? I want to make a Mint Chocolate but I am trying to get the chocolate to taste acceptable before I combine.

 

[HeadInClouds]

I have a batch of FW Double Dutch steeping right now. I mixed at 15% and after one week it has a perfume taste. What percentage do you mix yours at? I want to make a Mint Chocolate but I am trying to get the chocolate to taste acceptable before I combine.

I use 15% for single-flavor Double Dutch. But I don't use it that way. I drip it with other flavors (that I've also already mixed) to fill a cartomizer. With Creme de Menthe for an Andes flavor, with Candy Cane for an Oreo flavor, etc. I did originally try it alone to be sure 15% was to my taste, and I didn't get anything floral or perfume-y from it. It probably sat a little over a week before I tried it; I don't intentionally steep.

 

[Boxcarwilly]

I think your are pretty close at 10%.. most of my mixes that I like are in that range. Just like HeadInClouds said I usually add something else like vanilla or cream at a lower percentage such as 1% - 2% depending on the brand and concentrate. And like Glasseye mentioned... even though my mixes vape's great and tastes good after steeping awhile other around me still complain that the chocolates smell bad to them. After looking at all of my grandma's recipes for anything chocolate she made and finding that they all had a touch of vanilla in them... I started adding it to my chocolates and they started getting better! Go figure LOL!

 

[savagemann]

Get some of the vaping zone chocolate super concentrate.
Add about 1.5% to about 5% ish to tfa double chocolate.
Great starting point.

 

[gannon]

I have yet to try a "good" chocolate flavoring. Steeping longer than a week made little difference to my palette.

That said, treat a flavor like TFA double chocolate as the "semi sweet dark chocolate" in a recipe.
Add cream, vanilla, sweetener etc.. in proportions to taste. Maybe a hint of salt….

Chocolate is difficult.

 

[ut1205]

I use 15% for single-flavor Double Dutch. But I don't use it that way. I drip it with other flavors (that I've also already mixed) to fill a cartomizer. With Creme de Menthe for an Andes flavor, with Candy Cane for an Oreo flavor, etc. I did originally try it alone to be sure 15% was to my taste, and I didn't get anything floral or perfume-y from it. It probably sat a little over a week before I tried it; I don't intentionally steep.

I have both Creme de Menthe and Candy Cane liquid. I purchased "Dark Chocolate" premade juice from MBV and enjoyed the mixtures of both. My Dark Chocolate has been steeping for about 2 weeks now. Will have to try again.

 

[Iquitcigs]

i like the inawera milk chocolate no powdery taste with that the others i have tried have been powdery no matter what percentage i try

 

[dannyv45]

The only one I found that I like is the hangsen chocolate cream. But even that has to be mixed with other flavors and needs a long steep.

 

[Chas F.]

i like the inawera milk chocolate no powdery taste with that the others i have tried have been powdery no matter what percentage i try

I just did up a batch at 8 drops/10ml, is that close to what you used?

 

[HeadInClouds]

even though my mixes vape's great and tastes good after steeping awhile other around me still complain that the chocolates smell bad to them.

Non-vapers' opinions are important to me, because I vape around several. NONE dislike the aroma of FlavourArt Chocolate or Cocoa! Every other chocolate I've vaped (Capella, FlavorWest, Nature Flavors Organic, and Flavor Apprentice) I've gotten complaints. Capella got the loudest complaints, second only to Halo's Belgian Cocoa. (That one cleared the room fast, oops!) So if the reaction on non-vapers is a big issue for you, I really recommend trying FlavourArt.