Chuck atomizer blowouts! HELP!

[Col. Gaunt]

I just recently purchased a chuck and have been using 2 RCR123A batteries. So far in one day I fried 2 atomizers. I understand that some people using the chuck in this form have been able to make their atomizers last longer. I am going to try using just a single 3.7 but what is the trick of getting to work at 6v and not blowing attys?

 

[Bandit]

Don't ever, EVER let the atty get dry.

Drip.

Even if you're using carts, drip the atty every time you top off the cart.

 

[TDM]

Don't hold the button down for more than 2-3 seconds. The atty gets extremely hot extremely fast.

 

[Houdini]

They are built to handle 3.7 volts. You are using double that. Holding the button down for less time will help but your still gonna burn through attys a lot faster with higher voltage.

 

[trog100]

two rechargeable lithium ion cells labeled 3.7 volts are actually 8.4 volts when they come off the charger..

two rechargeable lithium ion cells labeled 3 volts would be 7.2 volts when they come off the charger..

the only way to get 6 volts would be too use two none rechargeable 3 volt lithium cells..

its a shame folks have such little idea of what they are doing where batteries are concerned..

trog

 

[DaMulta]

Buy two 17335 bats, and you will be in love. Atomizers will die, and you may have to switch them out after a couple of weeks. Yet, I switched them out anyway. I love when they have the popping feeling with a fresh atomizer, and two 3v bats pupping out 7v to the atomizer.

I also Drip, and have found it a LOT BETTER when you can see E-Liquid inside the atomizer. Flooding it out is the way I run high voltage.

 

[Col. Gaunt]

Sorry Trog, I am an admitted relative newbie to ecigs (2 months) and admit that I know nothing about rechargeable batteries and voltage. That's why people like you exist! To help people like me.

So thank you for the mathematical breakdown and your input.

I own a screwdriver and I am quite pleased with it.

 

[Col. Gaunt]

Damulta,

I was using Tenergy-RCR123-900-mah. Here is a review of the battery that you suggested.

Pros: This cheap battery has a 3v output (actually, 3.2v), so it may be used in 3v and 6v devices/flashlights.

Cons: Extreamely overrated!
Measured 320-350mAh with my iMax B6, tested 6 batteries (2 from DX, 4 from other store).
Also, marking "Li-ion" is wrong, 3.2v is voltage of LiFePo4 chemistry.

Other Thoughts: They are unprotected, and needed 3v (not 3.7v!!!) charger.

Bottomline: Good for 3v/6v applications, but very small capacity! Beware use it in high-consumption application (i.e. power LED flashlights), because battery is exhausted with only 10-15min.

 

[DaMulta]

I use these

2 pcs of Li - ion 17335-1000mAh 3.0V Battery (17335-1000) - ICR123A/RCR123A 3.0V - Flashlights, Batteries and more - Quality China Goods

With a 3v intelligent charger. I leave them on it all the time...


They act like they are protected, but I have not opened one to see if it is. I vape until it stops vapping, and then put it back on the charger.

 

[trog100]

pretty much all these batteries have exaggerated mah claims.. the chinese tell fibs.. and no rechargeable ones have a fixed voltage.. on average they all start off half a volt higher than the claimed voltage and end up half a volt lower..

the claimed voltage is just a point the battery is briefly at when the battery is running down.. there is actually a full 1 volt variation as they run down..

in some instances this voltage variation during use dosnt matter.. in some instances it does..

ni-cad and metal hydride batteries maintain a reasonably constant voltage during their run time.. lithium ion batteries do not.. they behave more like alkaline batteries which start off at 1.5 volts and get less as they run down..

the danger is that fully charged ones can be too much for some electronic devices like cameras and such designed for 3 volt primary cells..

in a perfect world they would be the same 3 volts as the primary cells they are used to replace..

trog

ps.. its easy to tell protected batteries Damulta.. they hava an extra thin plate stuck on the negative end.. it can be seen thru the plastic covering.. those ones do not have the extra plate..

 

[MaxUT]

Trog,

Would you please comment on the Tenergy RCR123a 3V batteries, 750mAh and 900mAh? A lot of people (myself included) are using them in Prodigys and any info about them would be helpful.

The only thing I've learned so far is, my oldest ones are done to death after a couple months of use.

Thanks in advance,
Max

 

[Col. Gaunt]

DaMulta,

Thank you for the URL. I have a few for you, I hope they help.
Order-Bulk

2 pcs of Li - ion 17335-1000mAh 3.0V Battery (17335-1000) - - Flashlight, LED Flashlight, Xenon Flashlight, CREE, SSC, Luxeon Flashlight & Accessories

DealExtreme: $4.15 LC 17335 3V 1000mAh CR123A Battery 2-Pack

eBay.com.my: 4X 3.0V CR123A CR123 17335 Rechargeable Battery 1000mAh (item 250475082659 end time Aug 27, 2009 18:52:34 MYT)

 

[Col. Gaunt]

Thank you again Trog for your knowledge! What is your opinion of the 177335 as suggested?

I am currently using my Chuck with a Trustfire 18650 2500 mAH 3.7V. It's very smooth and I'm getting tons of vapor.

Thank you everyone for your suggestions thus far!

 

[solonguniverse]

Not quite as cheap I think but just a suggestion. Use these: Tenergy LiFePO4 RCR123A 3.0V 750mAh Rechargeable Battery (as low as) $2.79 ea!

There are plenty of advantages to LiFEPO4 batteries including safety and the number of recharge cycles.

Just keep in mind, no matter what batteries you use to achieve 6.0v of power its still a lot of juice to those poor atomizers. Are you using a 901 atomizer? Not many people have found success with those and mods. I don't know why they're still the standard adapter in most.

 

[Col. Gaunt]

solonguniverse

I was using Tenergy RCR123A 900mAh 3.0v.

Yes I am using a 901 atty, what atty do you think would be better?

 

[solonguniverse]

solonguniverse

I was using Tenergy RCR123A 900mAh 3.0v.

Yes I am using a 901 atty, what atty do you think would be better?

Were your batteries LiFEPO4? It would only make a difference in how long the batteries will survive being charged/discharged and how safe they are.

801 seems to be the standard for high-voltage mods because they have huge cartridges and mods are known to burn through juice fast. It keeps the atomizer wet as you always should and lubricates the atomizer well.

I would personally try out a 510. They seem to be pretty successful.

I'm going with a Little Chuck, simply because if the ban does happen I don't want to risk destroying my atomizers.

 

[RenaissancePuffer]

Here's a deal for you guys, I found this link in another thread, but felt it was worth mentioning here since we've begun talking about batteries.

Rechargeable Batteries & Battery Chargers - 6 RCR123A 3.0V 750mAh LiFePO4 Rechargeable Batteries with a Smart Charger -Specials

The best part, free shipping if you use coupon code tenergydeals at checkout. $27 USD

I plan on using these in my Chuck for a 6V+ option instead of my unprotected 15270 CR2's.

 

[paulspikey]

I think the 18650 performs beautifully in the chuck....I couldn't be more pleased with it.

 

[Col. Gaunt]

Were your batteries LiFEPO4? It would only make a difference in how long the batteries will survive being charged/discharged and how safe they are.

801 seems to be the standard for high-voltage mods because they have huge cartridges and mods are known to burn through juice fast. It keeps the atomizer wet as you always should and lubricates the atomizer well.

I would personally try out a 510. They seem to be pretty successful.

I'm going with a Little Chuck, simply because if the ban does happen I don't want to risk destroying my atomizers.

No they were not LifePO4. I was going for the bigger mAh.

 

[Col. Gaunt]

Here's a deal for you guys, I found this link in another thread, but felt it was worth mentioning here since we've begun talking about batteries.

Rechargeable Batteries & Battery Chargers - 6 RCR123A 3.0V 750mAh LiFePO4 Rechargeable Batteries with a Smart Charger -Specials

The best part, free shipping if you use coupon code tenergydeals at checkout. $27 USD

I plan on using these in my Chuck for a 6V+ option instead of my unprotected 15270 CR2's.

Thank you for the tip! Looks like I'm gonna do a little shopping!