Cigarettes don't make enough smoke.

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bewlay

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I was easier to be a smoker, just grab a pack and go, knowing full well that there are hundreds of thousands of places everywhere to resupply. vaping, not so much...

very true. i find i plan little stocks of vaping back ups just in case...spare ejuice and charger in my car, extra heads and juice in the bag i take to work etc. a little planning goes a long way.

way back when i started vaping, the coil died on my only unit, and i ended up buying a cheap ce4 from the only place in town back then that sold any vaping gear (and they only sold the one brand), along with their own menthol juice...yuck, eeew, horrid.:facepalm: bought and smoked a pack of marlboro 30 mins later. well not the whole pack at once, but you get the picture.

now i plan for all eventualities!
 

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Haha. I couldn't find my pv last night and ended up buying a pack of cigs(first pack in 2 weeks) and found myself very disappointed in the amount of smoke. I don't vape anything fancy but I am used to clouds. Anyone else who has smoked since starting vaping been disappointed by this?

As a dual user, I've noticed this. I've not been disappointed by this though. Each product has its own pros and cons, and while I strongly prefer vaping, there are some things a smoke has or does that an eCig can't touch, or at least can't consistently.
 

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These kinds of threads always disturb me, and I don't know what to do about it.

I see people saying "I know me, and I can't have just one" but WE ALL said that.
When it was cigarettes we were smoking, that was true for almost all of us.

But when you start to like vaping, smoking one cigarette can be a life-changing experience that ends your cravings forever.

So should we suggest that EVERYONE try it?
Who wants to take the responsibility for suggesting that?

Sometimes I feel like I should.

But I have seen rare stories where someone tried one and DID go back to smoking.
As I said, it is rare, and maybe if you think you can't, you shouldn't.

But ALL of us thought we couldn't and most of us found out that when we did it changed our lives.

So is it better not to take a chance and always be afraid?
Or is it better to take a chance on something that has a very good chance of changing your life forever?

I don't know.
I guess I'll never know.

As for me, personally, I tried it and found out cigarettes hold no power over me anymore.
It was life-changing to the point where I have no fear whatsoever of cigarettes now.

In fact, I now know I can have one whenever I want, with no fear of ever going back.
And that's when you are really free.
 
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These kinds of threads always disturb me, and I don't know what to do about it.

I see people saying "I know me, and I can't have just one" but WE ALL said that.
When it was cigarettes we were smoking, that was true for almost all of us.

But when you start to like vaping, smoking one cigarette can be a life-changing experience that ends your cravings forever.

So should we suggest that EVERYONE try it?
Who wants to take the responsibility for suggesting that?

Sometimes I feel like I should.

But I have seen rare stories where someone tried one and DID go back to smoking.
As I said, it is rare, and maybe if you think you can't, you shouldn't.

But ALL of us thought we couldn't and most of us found out that when we did it changed our lives.

So is it better not to take a chance and always be afraid?
Or is it better to take a chance on something that has a very good chance of changing your life forever?

I don't know.
I guess I'll never know.

As for me, personally, I tried it and found out cigarettes hold no power over me anymore.
It was life-changing to the point where I have no fear whatsoever of cigarettes now.

In fact, I now know I can have one whenever I want, with no fear of ever going back.
And that's when you are really free.
WHY should I take a chance and smoke a stinky, when my life is already changed for the better? I'm already free, thank you very much!

You're certainly welcome to suggest it, but I can honestly tell you I will NEVER take your suggestion. And I'm much better off fearing them. Yes I am!




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WHY should I take a chance and smoke a stinky, when my life is already changed for the better? I'm already free, thank you very much!

You're certainly welcome to suggest it, but I can honestly tell you I will NEVER take your suggestion.
Well then, perhaps I should just go ahead and suggest it.
And the people who think it is a stupid idea will continue to think so.

Win-win!
:)
 

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Well then, perhaps I should just go ahead and suggest it.
And the people who think it is a stupid idea will continue to think so.

Win-win!
:)

Wouldn't you feel a bit sad if someone took your suggestion and went back to death sticks?

When people ask me for advice I suggest they buy an electronic system, throw away their lighters, stinkies, ashtrays or anything smoking related and make a personal pledge to never smoke one again.

Maybe I'm goofy, but that's what I do.


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Wouldn't you feel a bit sad if someone took your suggestion and went back to death sticks?
Of course I would, but I'd feel awesome if someone took the suggestion and found themselves forever free.

I was actually hoping for a little more discussion on the matter.
But so far no one dares to get into it very deeply.

So how much weight do you put on one or the other?
What are the percentages?

As I said in my first post, I don't know what to do.
But it's definitely not a simple question with a simple answer.
 

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Of course I would, but I'd feel awesome if someone took the suggestion and found themselves forever free.

I was actually hoping for a little more discussion on the matter.
But so far no one dares to get into it very deeply.

So how much weight do you put on one or the other?
What are the percentages?

As I said in my first post, I don't know what to do.
But it's definitely not a simple question with a simple answer.

I’m with you on this one:

A lot of people on here seem to post threads about having a last cigarette and it being the one that makes them never want to go back which is a good thing.
 

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I read through some (not all) posts in the survey and it leads me to believe that for some....certainly not all, the suggestion to try one after a while was not great advice for some.
I can't disagree with that, as the poll shows about 10% of such respondents.
But the poll also shows a much larger number (about 40%) for whom it was a good suggestion.

So if one expands their mind, and tries to determine what is good and what is not...
Then one might have to abandon their personal experience and look at the greater good for the most people.

Or one might have to conclude, as I have so far, that it is not an easy question.
 

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I can't disagree with that, as the poll shows about 10% of such respondents.
But the poll also shows a much larger number (about 40%) for whom it was a good suggestion.

So if one expands their mind, and tries to determine what is good and what is not...
Then one might have to abandon their personal experience and look at the greater good for the most people.

Or one might have to conclude, as I have so far, that it is not an easy question.

No it's not an easy question. For me it could be very bad to to light up a cigarette. For others it might be liberating. On the off chance others might be more like me, I won't recommend anyone smoke one just to find out.


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Have you considered building your own cigs? You buy these kits with loose tobacco and papers and can customize your smoke to your own desires. You should research the laws of thermodynamics first. Just to be on the safe side. And don't be that guy... making the shortest possible cig to get the hottest possible smoke. You'll only end up burning your face off and put smoking in a bad light. Damn sub-inch smokers. For extra throat hit, swap the Rizzlas with newspapers.

Much steeper learning curve than the average Marlboro or Lucky, tho. It's not for everyone.
 

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I had a .... last weekend for the 1st time since the Super Bowl...I was out with friends and one smokes what I smoked before vaping so I bummed one. I wish i could say I didn't enjoy it, but I did...maybe it was the booze but I took that thing down like I never missed a beat. Fortunately I haven't craved one since. I didn't even really crave one that night, I was just curious and since she was smoking my old brand i figured I'll try one...I was hoping I didn't like it, I did, but it's not better than my tasty vape. I also possibly converted 3 smokers, they're all about to order Ecigs to give it a shot.
 

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Have you considered building your own cigs? You buy these kits with loose tobacco and papers and can customize your smoke to your own desires. You should research the laws of thermodynamics first. Just to be on the safe side. And don't be that guy... making the shortest possible cig to get the hottest possible smoke. You'll only end up burning your face off and put smoking in a bad light. Damn sub-inch smokers. For extra throat hit, swap the Rizzlas with newspapers.

Much steeper learning curve than the average Marlboro or Lucky, tho. It's not for everyone.

I don't know who you're asking? But no I wouldn't have any interest in doing this.


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As for me, personally, I tried it and found out cigarettes hold no power over me anymore.
It was life-changing to the point where I have no fear whatsoever of cigarettes now.

In fact, I now know I can have one whenever I want, with no fear of ever going back.
And that's when you are really free.

Agree with knowing you are really free when you know you could take it or leave it.

I don't get how heavy (and I mean very heavy) smokers quit in first week, or even first day, of vaping, but if that type had one smoke, it would be back to heavy use. That doesn't compute. You'd have to swear off vaping for it to occur, for why wouldn't vaping take care of whatever cravings you'd imagine having from one cigarette? You've already established that it did, so how would that one cigarette magically lead to heavy abuse with vaping in the picture?

Anyway, if you don't smoke now and don't really want to, then I would suggest you keep on that train.

Signed,
A dual user.
 

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I've never begrudged myself a cigarette since I began vaping. I smoked through the first week and have since only had 4 cigarettes, and those not all the way smoked. It was fine, I didn't feel any guilt, and I didn't need another.


The longer I vape, the more I find this to be the case and the less I enjoy the taste of the cigarette. I actually can't honestly say I DO enjoy the TASTE.
 

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Of course I would, but I'd feel awesome if someone took the suggestion and found themselves forever free.

I was actually hoping for a little more discussion on the matter.
But so far no one dares to get into it very deeply.


So how much weight do you put on one or the other?
What are the percentages?

As I said in my first post, I don't know what to do.
But it's definitely not a simple question with a simple answer.

I considered myself a heavy smoker, about 50 a day for over 30 years. Your question has merit, and also possible consequences for those who contemplate it. You see, I loved smoking. Loved the taste, smell of the smoke, the whole process of lighting up, maintaining my Zippo's...I was a smoke 'em if you got 'em kinda' guy. I really liked the rush from a couple long pulls held deep in my lungs after a period of time when I couldn't smoke, like air travel, tied up in a non-smoking activity, whatever. I actually quit a couple times, for like a year, then several years/decade later I made it year and a half, and each time when I fell, I can still remember the amazement at the taste...like when I first started smoking taste all over again. And that wonderful rush as the nicotine spike hit my receptor cells...Mmmmm. Vaping doesn't give me this rush. It does calm the beast and I thoroughly enjoy it, I do enjoy it more than smoking at this time and place in my life. I believe I am fully capable of having a smoke and being OK with it. Maybe tomorrow I will treat myself and have two, I can vape all day, and maybe have just two smokes before bedtime. They do taste so yummy when not smoking them one after the other. I don't know, maybe for me I will wait to find out little while longer, and enjoy my vape.:2cool::vapor:
 
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