Cisco 306 atomizer questions

[gpjoe]

I'm quite sure that this has been discussed at length here at some time or another, so please forgive me for asking again. I did a search and was overwhelmed by the quantity of information. (ie - I'm too lazy to read all of the threads to find some specific information )

I picked up a couple of 1.5-ohm Cisco 306 atomizers to try on one of my Reo Grands. I understand that these need to be primed with several drops of juice and allowed to sit for a minute prior to use. Other than that can I just use it as I would any other atty?

Is there anything more that I need to know before using the attys? Can these be cleaned easily when switching flavors? What should I expect as far as usable life out of one atomizer?

I'm sure there are plenty of experts here in Reoville, and I appreciate any wisdom you have to impart.

Thanks.

 

[muzichead]

You picked IMO the best 306 atty out there. The Cisco spec 306's were all I used prior to rda's. You might want to pick up a drip shield to use with them on the REO. This would help to keep most of the excess liquid in the catch cup retained better. You will need to use the XL drip tip for it as well. Cisco spec 306's used to last me on average of 5-6 months and I never cleaned them. It did help that I only vaped one particular liquid... Good luck...

 

[gpjoe]

Thanks.

I don't have a drip shield, but I picked up a drip tip as part of this package:

Cisco LR306 Atomizer + Drip Tip Special - Avid Vaper

Will that suffice?

 

[muzichead]

You really should use the drip shield. Without one you will have to keep an eye on your catch cup as it will fill more easily and could spill out if the device isn't held upright all the time. Stick atty's don't feed and drain like an RDA does. It feeds through holes in the side of the 510 connection and also drains the same way. With a drip shield attached it would help contain the liquid around the 510 connection and not in the catch cup...

Empire mods have a better selection and pricing on drip shields... http://www.empiremods.com/category_s/21.htm

 

[MamaTried]

i'm not fond of the Ciscos, or rather the vendor. i bought some 306 and 510 bridgeless to use back before i had eye surgery and couldn't wrap coils. they sent bridged, then never responded to inquiries. done with them.

the Empire Mods attys are as good or better and cost less.

 

[gpjoe]

OK, so I attach the atty to my Reo, slip on the drip shield, and attach any 510 drip tip to the drip shield?

Should I absolutely NOT use the atty without a drip shield, or is it just messier?

And one more question: Is there any special technique to squonking with the Cisco atty?...how can I be sure it's properly saturated?

Thanks again for helping - I'm a total noob at these atomizers.

 

[Rickajho]

Hi yoo!

Well, you can just squonk 'em to prime. The deal is even if they are bridgeless they still do have a tiny wick in there inside the coil and you want to have that saturated before firing.

You can clean 'em but techniques vary. Personally I drop 'em in simmering water to get the 'loose' liquid out. In general I don't have good success trying to dry burn LR stock attys - coils pop too easily.

Life span varies. Last time I looked up Cisco 306 on ECF life spans people were reporting was all over the map - pretty much the same as most stock LR attys.

The Cicso specs gave me sticker shock so I never went there. The 306 I like of late that has been giving me a really long life span and good flavor are these 1.8 ohm for only $3.99 => 306 Low Resistance Atomizer + Drip Tip - ecigExpress

A glass drip tip with a huge air chamber can give you more flavor. Something to consider if you don't have one. TheEcig makes 'em for 306.

 

[gpjoe]

i'm not fond of the Ciscos, or rather the vendor. i bought some 306 and 510 bridgeless to use back before i had eye surgery and couldn't wrap coils. they sent bridged, then never responded to inquiries. done with them.

the Empire Mods attys are as good or better and cost less.

OK, thanks for the info. I'm hoping the attys I bought will at least work well enough to decide if I want to continue with them or just continue with my RM2/Cyclone/Igo-S or other random cartomizer. If I end up getting more, I will certainly consider the Empire attys.

 

[Rickajho]

Thanks.

I don't have a drip shield, but I picked up a drip tip as part of this package:

Cisco LR306 Atomizer + Drip Tip Special - Avid Vaper

Will that suffice?

The drip shield isn't mandatory and for an atty with a 510 connector doesn't offer much practical help. (They were designed for 901 attys to begin with...) I've found that most attys I've used anyway - both 510 and 306 builds - make a 'tight' enough connection to the Reo 510 that excess leaking into the catch cup is rarely a problem. Needless to say the deeper catch cup on a non LP Reo has the advantage here. All you can do is try your Cisco out and see what you get.

 

[FACE MEAT]

I use a HH.557 atop my LP Grand frm time to time. The flavor ant throat hit are fantastic. However, my lack of drip shield often leads to messes.

 

[unsure]

i'm not fond of the Ciscos, or rather the vendor. i bought some 306 and 510 bridgeless to use back before i had eye surgery and couldn't wrap coils. they sent bridged, then never responded to inquiries. done with them.

the Empire Mods attys are as good or better and cost less.

I never had issues with Cisco but agree 100% on Empire Mods attys and still have a few new 510 bridgeless lying around.

 

[MamaTried]

I never had issues with Cisco but agree 100% on Empire Mods attys and still have a few new 510 bridgeless lying around.

i think the best disposable attys for me may have been the Vapage hybrids. but only if you sign up for their newsletter and catch them on a 50% off sale.

 

[gpjoe]

That's why I love it here. I could have posted this in the atomizer forum and I'd likely still be waiting for answers - so thank you all.

I've used Boge LR cartos with my Grand (non-LP) and I'm guessing that using these is very similar to using a carto (as far as the mess factor)?

Regardless, I'll give it a shot as-is and find out first hand.

 

[Rickajho]

That's why I love it here. I could have posted this in the atomizer forum and I'd likely still be waiting for answers - so thank you all.

I've used Boge LR cartos with my Grand (non-LP) and I'm guessing that using these is very similar to using a carto (as far as the mess factor)?

Regardless, I'll give it a shot as-is and find out first hand.

Yeah, that's basically it. If you get an atty or carto that's 'in the zone' and just seems to have a good match to the Reo 510 messes are really minimal. Don't squonk too hard either - give the atty or carto more time than a Reomizer needs to take up liquid. Hold the pressure, but don't keep pumping the squonk.

If you have a sorta clear colored drip tip you will see what's going on. (The light colored glass work great for this.) With a good squonk you will see the liquid level rise beyond the metal base of the 306 - and then drop right back down when you release. Can't see a durned thing through a black delrin drip tip though.

(Geez! Just looked at the price of those Cisco spec 306's! Still sticker shock. Still can't justify the price.)

 

[Rickajho]

i think the best disposable attys for me may have been the Vapage hybrids. but only if you sign up for their newsletter and catch them on a 50% off sale.

And only if they actually deliver what you order.

 

[gpjoe]

Yeah, and I bought the black delrin tip for looks.

Oh, well I'll get used to it.

As far as price, agreed that they are no cheap, but I'm just experimenting out of curiosity. It also seems like a nice, compact and hassle-free atty. Don't get me wrong, I'm a huge fan of the RDAs, but there are time I just don't want to mess with a new coil or cotton ball. Just screw on the atty and vape.

 

[MamaTried]

And only if they actually deliver what you order.

yeh. i read your post about your bad experience with them.

at least we have Robert

 

[gpjoe]

Well, the verdict is in:

Love it.

Good vapor and flavor. I'm using it on a tumbled raw aluminum Reo so I can see any juice in the cup. I found that if I draw very lightly on the atty as I'm squonking, and stop when I get a slight gurgle, there is very little or no juice accumulation in the cup. Awesome.

This is exactly what I was looking for, a simple easy way to rig my travel Reo.

Thanks again to all that responded.

I'm not ruling out a drip shield, but I'm hoping someone can answer one more question regarding 306 atomizers: Do I need to also get a 510/510 adapter and XL drip tip? Or can I get along with just the shield and any 510 drip tip?

 

[Filthy-Beast]

I found that if I draw very lightly on the atty as I'm squonking, and stop when I get a slight gurgle, there is very little or no juice accumulation in the cup. Awesome.

Perfect description of what we call he blind squonk. congrats on finding you sweet spot!

 

[muzichead]

Well, the verdict is in:

Love it.

Good vapor and flavor. I'm using it on a tumbled raw aluminum Reo so I can see any juice in the cup. I found that if I draw very lightly on the atty as I'm squonking, and stop when I get a slight gurgle, there is very little or no juice accumulation in the cup. Awesome.

This is exactly what I was looking for, a simple easy way to rig my travel Reo.

Thanks again to all that responded.

I'm not ruling out a drip shield, but I'm hoping someone can answer one more question regarding 306 atomizers: Do I need to also get a 510/510 adapter and XL drip tip? Or can I get along with just the shield and any 510 drip tip?

You don't need any adaptors, just the XL drip tip, (it's only about 1/4" longer than a standard), and the shield... If you are wanting to use a 510 drip tip instead of the 306, then you would need an adaptor like this... 306 to 510 Drip Tip Adapter - Avid Vaper