Cisco Atomizers keep dying

[sjoat]

Greetings!

I've been using Reo+Cisco combo for a few years now and usually my atomizers last a couple of months. Lately I've been having to swap them out after around two weeks of use.

I haven't changed juice (I use unflavored from ecigexpress.com and just mix my own flavors). At first I thought it was because my draws were too long (~5 seconds) and with not enough rest between draws, so I tried shorter draws spaced further apart, but atomizers are still dying. Some have completely died, others have massively dropped in performance.

I use mostly 1.5ohm 306s but sometimes 510s too, and my Reo is a Mini 2.0.

Has Avid Vaper / Cisco gone sour or have I just been unlucky with a bad batch? Anyone experiencing similar issues?

I haven't taken the dive with learning about rebuildable atomizers... I kind of quit while I was ahead (found a good atty/juice combo)... are rebuildable ones probably worth the effort economically etc?

 

[Papa_Lazarou]

Rickajho should pop in here at some point. He's the resident expert on the prebuilt bridgeless scene. Maybe PM him if you're not getting the info you need through this thread.

Myself, I keep a hh.357 around in my travel case as calamity insurance, but haven't needed to use it for about a year.

 

[rudy4653]

I would explore the world of rebuildable atty.
They are really not an overwhelming learning curve. You an buy a RM2 for $40 and will last you forever. Regarding economics, after the initial purchase of the atty, the cost of a spool of wire and wicking is CHEAP. It will also open a whole new vaping experience! You can really fine tune your vape with more or less resistance easily. No more gurgling, flooding, bad batches etc. of atties. Just my 2cents.

 

[Filthy-Beast]

Do spent the time learn RBAs, the vape is so much better after you get it dialed in. I ran Cisco spec 510s not the .357 and only avg about 2.5 to 3 weeks per when I was using them, my cheaper atties only lasted about a week.

 

[unsure]

Until you are ready for rebuildables you can try these over Cisco's Empiremods Bridge Free LR510 1.5ohm or any Rob sells. I used to be the Cisco Kid but found Empiremods attys as good and cheaper.

 

[Fearalis]

I would explore the world of rebuildable atty.
They are really not an overwhelming learning curve. You an buy a RM2 for $40 and will last you forever. Regarding economics, after the initial purchase of the atty, the cost of a spool of wire and wicking is CHEAP. It will also open a whole new vaping experience! You can really fine tune your vape with more or less resistance easily. No more gurgling, flooding, bad batches etc. of atties. Just my 2cents.

Oh lawwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwdy this. I was vaping prebuilt bridgeless 510 attys 4 years ago and haven't touched them since. DEFINITLY look into the RM2 and how easy it is to build. You'll be getting 10x more flavor and vapor.

 

[sjoat]

Until you are ready for rebuildables you can try these over Cisco's Empiremods Bridge Free LR510 1.5ohm or any Rob sells. I used to be the Cisco Kid but found Empiremods attys as good and cheaper.

Yeah, will need something to vape while I read rebuildable info/tutorials and decide on another mod to order while I order rebuildable supplies, lol :l (ta redeyedancer)

 

[rudy4653]

Yeah, will need something to vape while I read rebuildable info/tutorials and decide on another mod to order while I order rebuildable supplies, lol :l (ta redeyedancer)

Check out Drifter's tutorial on RM2 coil build, very easy!
Remember the days when the 510 cartridges were pre filled and had to puncture the aluminum foil to get juice, then the LR 1.5 cartos came out and it was a game changer? Well that's what it's like changing from a 306 atty to a RM2! Progress is a beautiful thing when welcomed. 8tracks - Cassettes- CD- I tune downloads.

 

[JC Okie]

Rudy's right. Rebuildable atomizers are game changers --- totally. I could never go back. Not only will it save you money in the long run, the quality of the vape is sooooo much better. It's not hard to get it, and it's so very worth the effort.

 

[rudy4653]

306 = Ford Pinto
RM2 =Mustang GT
Both will get you from point A to point B but which would you rather drive?

 

[Izan]

Something to be said about the flavour and hit from a bottom air flow /ceramic cup atty (IE 306/510). They deliver IMHO.

Perhaps take a peek at the eBarron Spiral. (http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/reos-mods/357438-ebaron-dripper-spiral-rba.html)
It's kind of a rebuildable/ replaceable coil (pre assembled cups/wicks/coils) 306 or 510.
All the advantages of a 306/510 with replaceable guts. Multiple premade resistances to choose from and If you feel froggy, VERY easy to re coil and re-wick using DIRT cheap supplies.

Have fun
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[sjoat]

Thanks for info everyone (ie. the bump in the RBA direction)

It does look very simple. Luckily my juice preference is light so I can't foresee having to replace coil/wick annoyingly often.

It's still baffling me how all of a sudden these Ciscos are not lasting. Sometimes they would literally last for a few months of excellent performance. Maybe it's an omen.

(Probably not the ideal thread for this question but...), would it be possible to "pre-roll" a bunch of coils so they're ready to just slot into the posts when a coil swap is needed? Or will they just become loose if left without mold/screws/whatever. I know that's not the idea behind RBAs - each time you can change up how you build it - it's just a thought. I do it with juice - I'll spend the time up front filling 10 bottles so I can grab and go.

Or I'll just learn how to not be a lazy vaper, heh

 

[unsure]

I build 6-8 at a time of different Ωs. Not easy for me to get in the zone so when I do I take advantage of it.

 

[redeyedancer]

Thanks for info everyone (ie. the bump in the RBA direction)

It does look very simple. Luckily my juice preference is light so I can't foresee having to replace coil/wick annoyingly often.

It's still baffling me how all of a sudden these Ciscos are not lasting. Sometimes they would literally last for a few months of excellent performance. Maybe it's an omen.

(Probably not the ideal thread for this question but...), would it be possible to "pre-roll" a bunch of coils so they're ready to just slot into the posts when a coil swap is needed? Or will they just become loose if left without mold/screws/whatever. I know that's not the idea behind RBAs - each time you can change up how you build it - it's just a thought. I do it with juice - I'll spend the time up front filling 10 bottles so I can grab and go.

Or I'll just learn how to not be a lazy vaper, heh

Yes you can make them up in advance I do . Your in for a treat grab a rm2 some wick and wire

 

[Raynman]

Depends on what you use for wick. I use ReadyXWick from RBA and if you can call four months without changing a Wick anything but lazy. Just dry burn every month or so and it's like new. It just can't be beat.

 

[caup]

I used to vape 306 atomizers for 2+ years and I recognized quality differences too.
Good one would last for more than 6 month, others barely made it beyond doa.
One Charge was really bad, with one 306 performing good and five other just dying on me.
I always used same model and supplier here in Germany.
They seem to have rather high production tolerances.
I finally switched to RM2 and never looked back.

 

[rudy4653]

My biggest fear would be I'm out and about and not knowing if I have a good atty or a bad one. Suddenly it goes dead, now what?? Never happens with a RM2!

 

[caup]

The 306 makes a good backup device due to its small size and acceptable flavor.
When I'm out on business, I always have a 306 as backup with me.
It sure helps out, when i'm sitting in a hotel and my coil/KGD fails on me (not often, but it happens).
Never needed a spare Reo, just a spare atomizer.

 

[tobarger]

Once you switch to rebuildables you can carry a disposable atty in case of emergency
Thats about all they are good for nowadays
I have a bunch of new disposable 510 & 306 attys that I will probably never use

 

[Filthy-Beast]

My backup is another Reo loaded and ready to roll. Takes care of spare atty, spare juice spare battery.