Meh, Makes no difference to me, I have the money so why not buy originals, although I did order a Nemesis Mech to see if I like it, I did so now I am going to Purchase a Manhattan Brass.
Clone lovers, has any authentic mod ever urged you to go authentic?
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There's a few authentic mechs I'd love to have. The akuma is, or was one. I saw one good youtube review of it, and a few not so good regarding the firing switch. But I still think it's a sexy ... mod, and if it comes with a better switch now, I'd still be up for it. Also the bcv surf rider or 28(?) seen good reviews for it and a local shop has one for a reasonable price.
160-170 for an authentic is much more attractive to me than $200+. I recently had a baby and am the only one working, so splurging on an authentic is hard to fathom at the moment. Granted, had I got into vaping before my daughter was born, I'd absolutely own a few authentics because that's the way I am, or was lol.
Back to original question, my infinite copper stingray would sway me to get an authentic, thing is awesome. I got a Pegasus clone coming in the mail then I'll probably (not) be good for a while. But next bonus I get that's a litter fatter than usual bonuses, I'll probably buy an authentic if the stars align haha.
160-170 for an authentic is much more attractive to me than $200+. I recently had a baby and am the only one working, so splurging on an authentic is hard to fathom at the moment. Granted, had I got into vaping before my daughter was born, I'd absolutely own a few authentics because that's the way I am, or was lol.
Back to original question, my infinite copper stingray would sway me to get an authentic, thing is awesome. I got a Pegasus clone coming in the mail then I'll probably (not) be good for a while. But next bonus I get that's a litter fatter than usual bonuses, I'll probably buy an authentic if the stars align haha.
I'm almost pretty much a clone guy because I don't feel many mods are worth a $200+ investment out of my budget (although I have bought some fairly expensive custom clones). However, I think I've found the one authentic that I will actually blow $260+ for if I can ever find it: The Axis.
why??? that thing looks like a turd... Cana dna30 walks all over it lol
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I got a Cana DNA30, it can go down to .3 but the vape quality below .5 is subpar compared to a copper mech and its relegated to my tanks. .5 on a dripper at 30 watts and 4 volts doesn't give me the speed I want. This one goes up to 78.6 watts and the wood looks awesome imo.
the hannah modz was about to be my first authentic mod till the cana came out.
been thinking about getting an sx mod though.
been thinking about getting an sx mod though.
I was only speaking for myself, no need to be prickly.
But since you ask...
Maybe if you didn't pay $300 for a threaded tube, original modders would lower their prices.
If they lowered their prices there wouldn't be a market for clones.
Trust that if one Modder doesn't, someone else will.
Supporting someone who tries to extract as much profit as possible from their customers, doesn't impress me as something I would be interested in doing, but whatever makes you happy is what you should do.
So ya, thanks.
I've never paid $300 for an original threaded tube. $200 tops! ^o^
But seriously, high-end / boutique / couture / bespoke stuff will always be expensive. And will always be what many people consider ridiculously so. Some people cannot fathom paying $500+ for a button-down shirt. Some people cannot fathom paying $5000+ for a wooden chair. And some people cannot fathom paying $200+ for a threaded tube (and button!). But... that doesn't mean the prices are necessarily due to greed, or any desire to gouge customers. I think people may not understand what exactly goes into creating custom / high-end products.
Mind you, I do own clones. I just don't exclusively own clones or originals, and I see the benefit of both, without somehow thinking the other side is stupid, silly, greedy, et cetera (which can apply to both sides of the argument, if you think about it).
On the polar opposite side of the thread topic, buying an authentic atmizoo lab made me REALLY want a lab clone. Cause I really want to take it with me on vacations, but... oh god I don't want anything to happen to the authentic. >.<
Oh, and on topic... after buying an HCigar nemesis (and dome) clone, it made me buy an authentic nemesis (and dome). =D
When I moved into mech mods I knew that I wanted one authentic just to know that I had one.
I bought 4 different clones before I decided on the tactical Workz Dreadnaut.
I got it and don't regret one cent of the $270.00 I spent on it.
The only other authentic I can honestly see myself buying in the future is a wood reo's.
Besides that I think I'm a clone kinda guy, it fits the budget and I'm addicted to shiny things lol
I bought 4 different clones before I decided on the tactical Workz Dreadnaut.
I got it and don't regret one cent of the $270.00 I spent on it.
The only other authentic I can honestly see myself buying in the future is a wood reo's.
Besides that I think I'm a clone kinda guy, it fits the budget and I'm addicted to shiny things lol
My stance on the authentic vs clone argument is that both sides have legitimate points but debaters sound like idiots when they argue about it and it ends up being a crapstorm of insults from both sides which makes everyone look ignorant. Just buy what you want and don't care about how much another person spent on their stuff.
I'm actually moving out of the mech mod circle as of late and I'm looking for a regulated subohm-designated mod with a high watt limit. Box mods are quite comfy
I'm actually moving out of the mech mod circle as of late and I'm looking for a regulated subohm-designated mod with a high watt limit. Box mods are quite comfy
I've only gotten clones of mods I was curious about but didn't want enough to justify the originals price. My original mods are stuff I really wanted.
I picked up two Kraken clones some time after getting my original one. Really wanted another, but thought it was sort of boring to get duplicates. I thought the original was worth its price... but a duplicate wasn't. Might just change my mind about it one of these days. The clones have a very slight off-flavor to them however much I clean them. I blame it on different metals.
I picked up two Kraken clones some time after getting my original one. Really wanted another, but thought it was sort of boring to get duplicates. I thought the original was worth its price... but a duplicate wasn't. Might just change my mind about it one of these days. The clones have a very slight off-flavor to them however much I clean them. I blame it on different metals.
I've only bought authentics and the quality is appalling on some of them.
My authentic Spirit RDA has very nice machining and 510 threading, but the posts are rubbish. Burls and awful threading.
My authentic R91% (authentic in the sense it's made by Kebo) has a sawtooth threaded tank portion that destroyed the plastic tank section. Another authentic R91% that I looked at had a double drilled the topcap so the chimney hole was oblong. For over $100 that's unacceptable.
My authentic Copper Vanilla? The cap threading could be better, but overall it's a very well made device. I've had 0 issues with it. I compared it to a hcigar Nemesis clone in a shop and it made the Nemesis feel like a tin can.
My authentic JM22 Carbon (that I just got yesterday!!) is sadly disappointing. I would expect the level of finishing and tolerances present to be from a clone. Sawtooth threads, switch is unpleasant to use and none of the carbon tubing is centered very well.
Authentic GP Heron? Utterly flawless inside and out. Definitely worth it.
so I have a 50% success rate paying top dollar for something that should be perfect. If anything, I would consider a clone more now than I would have in the past.
My authentic Spirit RDA has very nice machining and 510 threading, but the posts are rubbish. Burls and awful threading.
My authentic R91% (authentic in the sense it's made by Kebo) has a sawtooth threaded tank portion that destroyed the plastic tank section. Another authentic R91% that I looked at had a double drilled the topcap so the chimney hole was oblong. For over $100 that's unacceptable.
My authentic Copper Vanilla? The cap threading could be better, but overall it's a very well made device. I've had 0 issues with it. I compared it to a hcigar Nemesis clone in a shop and it made the Nemesis feel like a tin can.
My authentic JM22 Carbon (that I just got yesterday!!) is sadly disappointing. I would expect the level of finishing and tolerances present to be from a clone. Sawtooth threads, switch is unpleasant to use and none of the carbon tubing is centered very well.
Authentic GP Heron? Utterly flawless inside and out. Definitely worth it.
so I have a 50% success rate paying top dollar for something that should be perfect. If anything, I would consider a clone more now than I would have in the past.
I originally started with a FT sentinel clone, just to see if mechs and rba's were for me. I thought that 11$ sentinel clone with an igo-L was the greatest thing ever. Then I figured why not use some of the money I was saving by not smoking on an authentic just to see what the hype was about and if original was actually better. I did some research here, asked around about finding value for my money. Eventually someone pointed me towards the GP Pasps 2.5 SS for 140$ new from domovapor. It was a reasonably priced(compared to other mods that were big at the time) available frequently from both vapourart and domo, and didn't require me to engage in any F5 battles or sign up for lists.
I checked Domo, it was in stock and arrived two days later. That was the day I saw the light.
I checked Domo, it was in stock and arrived two days later. That was the day I saw the light.
I have a few clones (stingray, nemesis, etc.) and then I grabbed a GP Paps 2.5 clone from fasttech. I liked it so much I bought an authentic Paps v3. The clones worked just fine and allowed me to test the waters before investing in an authentic.
Yes for me, someone on here gave some wise advice. Try the clone first to see if you like it, no sense paying + $200 and then find out you don't like it. I only have a select few authentic mods but a bunch of clones.
Honestly the only authentic I could see myself spending the money on would be the AR mod, and that will be far in the future. I'm perfectly happy with the 2 clones I have, my Nemmy clone and my Nimbus V5 clone.
Tried the clone first then bought the real one:
Nemesis, brass and I'll buy good used second hand SS later on
Bought based on recommendation:
GP Paps SS, the button is all that and bag of Ruffles
Private mod..honestly..I think the HCigar verison is better...yeah I said it
Hana clone..was about to pull the trigger on the real one..but got 2nd revision of clone from trade/gift...a dam good clone for the price...i would highly recommend it for under $100 so far
BCV...I bought not cause it's better than any other brass 26650 mod...it's cause their service it top notch and for my purchase I feel good that they will take care of any issues that arise.
As somebody else already stated..you will not get a better hit etc with authentic versus a good copper "Brand X" clone, decent firing pin, etc, with the right build can hit just as well as the authentic or even better.
I buy authentic for personal reasons, actually I even tell people to get clones first when they start out, actually I tell people get regulated mod first....then think on some more before getting mech mods..
Nemesis, brass and I'll buy good used second hand SS later on
Bought based on recommendation:
GP Paps SS, the button is all that and bag of Ruffles
Private mod..honestly..I think the HCigar verison is better...yeah I said it
Hana clone..was about to pull the trigger on the real one..but got 2nd revision of clone from trade/gift...a dam good clone for the price...i would highly recommend it for under $100 so far
BCV...I bought not cause it's better than any other brass 26650 mod...it's cause their service it top notch and for my purchase I feel good that they will take care of any issues that arise.
As somebody else already stated..you will not get a better hit etc with authentic versus a good copper "Brand X" clone, decent firing pin, etc, with the right build can hit just as well as the authentic or even better.
I buy authentic for personal reasons, actually I even tell people to get clones first when they start out, actually I tell people get regulated mod first....then think on some more before getting mech mods..
Good post but I expect the most of the crowd here will disagree, there's a lot of clone love in here.
I don't know why, but this thread makes me think about lighters. I have a bit of a thing for lighters, to the point where I had seperate lighters for cigarettes and cigars. Even though I've completely given up cigarettes I still enjoy the occasional cigar and have a dual flame Corona lighter with a flint ignition. It's butane fill and has engine scroll work on the case. I think at the time I bought it I paid about $150.00 for it. I have other lighters that I use for cigars. Torches and high volume butane fillers and the like, but I'm particularly fond of the Corona. Now when I smoked analogs, I would never use the Corona for them. Always a Zippo. I have several of them too, but I always liked using a stainless steel zippo. Very plain. Function over form.
Now I could have used a bic to light my stogies and my cigarettes. I probably would have saved hundreds of dollars if I did, but something just didn't sit right with me using a bic to light a cigar or a cigarette. Maybe it's just my OCD. Maybe it's the idea of using an expensive piece to light my stogies; it adds to the ritual of enjoying a fine cigar.
My point is maybe that's part of the mystique of owning and using an authentic mod. It adds to the ritual of vaping. Even if it's just a placebo effect. My logical mind knows that an authentic mod won't fuction any better than a clone, but my illogical mind likes the idea that the mod I'm holding is original and authentic. The place I purchased it from put thought and care behind everything that went into making it, from the choice of materials down to the serial number engraved upon it.
I know that there are those that won't agree with me, but there are equally as many who do. Otherwise there would only be one type of mod and everyone would be using bic lighters to light their cigars.
Just my
Now I could have used a bic to light my stogies and my cigarettes. I probably would have saved hundreds of dollars if I did, but something just didn't sit right with me using a bic to light a cigar or a cigarette. Maybe it's just my OCD. Maybe it's the idea of using an expensive piece to light my stogies; it adds to the ritual of enjoying a fine cigar.
My point is maybe that's part of the mystique of owning and using an authentic mod. It adds to the ritual of vaping. Even if it's just a placebo effect. My logical mind knows that an authentic mod won't fuction any better than a clone, but my illogical mind likes the idea that the mod I'm holding is original and authentic. The place I purchased it from put thought and care behind everything that went into making it, from the choice of materials down to the serial number engraved upon it.
I know that there are those that won't agree with me, but there are equally as many who do. Otherwise there would only be one type of mod and everyone would be using bic lighters to light their cigars.
Just my
This is going to get rough very soon, but I like the authentic mods better. Is there a difference? Only to the owner, buy what keeps you happy and away from smoking. We will all have opinions, but all comes down to personal choice.
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