Cloud chasing and sub ohm foolishness

[Baditude]

I take it this thread is dead? Lol

This kind of thread either gets side-tracked way off course or gets closed by a mod due to infighting. I think this one belongs in the first category due to cravings for bacon and chicken skins.

Myself, I'm making me a ham samich.

 

[The Ocelot]

Chicken skin makes me smile! It's good for you.

They are from a show several years back

 

[carldamnit]

I think the issue you express is with the battery discharge rate -- expressed in amps. If the resistance of the entire circuit is high enough to stay within the battery discharge rate parameters at battery voltage, no battery venting. Might burn the crap out of the juice and make the switch of the mech glow too, but the right battery can remain happy.

For room filling clouds, the relevant measure is wattage -- now much power we apply to the juice, and how much juice is available to absorb that energy. A crap wick and coil assembly can't handle 10 watts. A coil with large surface area immersed in a ml of juice can easily take over a thousand watts without burning or even producing much vapor at all (of course not powered by a battery). There's obviously a lot of in between. I'm not into ultra high wattage clouds, but for those who are, it's a matter of the right amount of juice in good contact with the heat of the coil. What's the limit? Well, what's the surface area over which you apply the energy and how much juice do you want to boil and vaporize? Lol.

I agree, however, that if a builder doesn't keep the limits of the battery in mind, a fire or explosion is in their future. I don't know if enough folks recognize that the internals of the battery include resistance, of course. When those low internal resistances become relevant (at very high discharge rates) they get hot, same as a coil would, for example. When a battery gets too hot it can go into thermal runaway and vent or explode. If it doesn't vent or explode, it will burn. These outcomes are all, in technical parlance, bad.

So let me put it in more practical terms:
Trident with .9 Ribbon - YouTube

This guy says he has a .3 ohm coil

If that battery is fully charged with little drop we can put it at the 4 volt range.

That would be 13.33 amps of current and 53.33 watts.

Doesn't that sound a little crazy?

 

[Rickajho]

They are from a show several years back

That's just so... wrong. Excuse me - gotta go yark.

What was the name of this thread? Oh, yeah: Cloud chasing and sub ohm foolishness

Time for Occy to get things back on track: Tell them about your pencil electronics vaping theories.

 

[Jaguar07]

Oh Hell NO. You do whatever you want to do. I killed people so you can do that. I do have concerns though.

 

[Jaguar07]

You sort of sound like the government regulators. Subohm can be dangerous, therefore, according to you, no one should do it? Plus, because if you do, the government might want to regulate it and you won't be able to do it?

Oh Hell NO. You do whatever you want to do. I've killed people in foreign countries so that you can have that freedom.

 

[FloydianSlip]

Jeez with all the food references in these sidetracked threads I'll never be able to curtail late night snacking.

 

[Penn]

Jeez with all the food references in these sidetracked threads I'll never be able to curtail late night snacking.

Every time you have the desire to take a bite, vape something that taste good. Wrap the coil real nice and

"Light the fuse and stand well back," he cried,
"This is my last goodbye."

Point me at the sky and let it fly


ETA - Sorry, that was the song playing and with your name I had to work it in

 

[zoiDman]

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That would be 13.33 amps of current and 53.33 watts.

Doesn't that sound a little crazy?

Not in the Least.

I'm currently working on a 110v Pass thru that uses an Electric Stove Burner and a Drip Mechanism from an Old Coffee Maker.

 

[The Ocelot]

 

[Zak Rabbit]

Not in the Least.

I'm currently working on a 110v Pass thru that uses an Electric Stove Burner and a Drip Mechanism from an Old Coffee Maker.

I see your drip, and raise you a percolator!



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[The Ocelot]

Is it wrong that I like this video?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CsGYh8AacgY

 

[Butters78]

 

[Rickajho]

Is it wrong that I like this video?

Sigelei cooktop - YouTube

Oh, I am so not gonna get started...

 

[Butters78]

Is it wrong that I like this video?

Sigelei cooktop - YouTube

I'm about to flag it as inappropriate.

 

[Rickajho]

Oh just isn't that so cute! Wait a minute...

Last edited by The Ocelot; Today at 01:24 AM. Reason: changed my mind

Musta been a good one...

 

[Rickajho]

I'm about to flag it as inappropriate.

I want to flag it as .... stupid.

 

[The Ocelot]

I'm about to flag it as inappropriate.

Neener²

 

[Zak Rabbit]

Hey, I just heard that if you don't have a charger handy, you can put your batteries in a microwave for a minute and they'll come out with like a 90% charge. If it works, I'll be able to vape my .025 ohm septa-coil nimbus all day!

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[The Ocelot]

Oh just isn't that so cute! Wait a minute...

Last edited by The Ocelot; Today at 01:24 AM. Reason: changed my mind

Musta been a good one...

No, it wasn't. That's why I deleted it.