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Adding to the problems with the Cloupor GT - first the centre pin would not function as it sat too low for it to connect to the atomizer. I put a 510 adapter on it and it seemed to fix this problem. However, now when I use it, it "goes by itself", without me touching any of the buttons. It stops at 15. Would it be a hazard to continue using it? This mod seems to have a lot of problems with it. I haven't got any satisfactory answer from the company, they just say take a picture!!!
 

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Adding to the problems with the Cloupor GT - first the centre pin would not function as it sat too low for it to connect to the atomizer. I put a 510 adapter on it and it seemed to fix this problem. However, now when I use it, it "goes by itself", without me touching any of the buttons. It stops at 15. Would it be a hazard to continue using it? This mod seems to have a lot of problems with it. I haven't got any satisfactory answer from the company, they just say take a picture!!!

WITHDRAWN [previous comment].

Hard to say what's happening in your case so I recall my statements. Your explanation is ambiguous. How does it "goes by itself" if you're not using it or touching any buttons? What are the other problems you are having with this mod?

Good luck.

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Adding to the problems with the Cloupor GT - first the centre pin would not function as it sat too low for it to connect to the atomizer. I put a 510 adapter on it and it seemed to fix this problem. However, now when I use it, it "goes by itself", without me touching any of the buttons. It stops at 15. Would it be a hazard to continue using it? This mod seems to have a lot of problems with it. I haven't got any satisfactory answer from the company, they just say take a picture!!!

Yes!

Any mod that auto fires can be a hazard.
 

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An autofire is always serious, and always dangerous. I don't have that mod and can't suggest a fix, but if you can't get it fixed you should stay away from it.

Think I should've read the post better. How can you "use" a mod without "firing" it?

If it stays fired then when hit till cutoff, it's not exactly the same thing as firing by itself. At 15 seconds it had a cutoff, as reported. Too little info here and too much of a hazard to guess. Agree ST.

Good luck.

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@suprtrker about the only thing I would stress here for those falling on this thread is …watch your batteries!

If ever you encounter a problem with a mod, mech or variable, check your batteries! Make sure they recharge properly. Monitor them. Make sure they don't run unduly warm. If you have a charger that measures batt internal resistance or can, do so routinely. Surprised more chargers don't include this feature. Always be suspicious of a battery that's run in a device with a problem, either electrical (with the mod) or due to a build. I've had several runaways and can attest that this can happen easily to even a good quality battery. Internal circuits fail for many reasons including simply things like dropping the battery. When that happens it won't be the device. A little precaution to make sure batt's are stable is well worth the attention.

Guess those early experiences taught me to take the seat belt approach to power sources. Why I'm managed to accumulate a good number of high quality devices and not abuse any. Apart from Protank coils early on, not even an insulator even as I do run quite high power at times. A stable battery is indispensable to safety and the life of our devices.

Personally I retire batts exhibiting int res >100 ohms .1 ohms. Not worth the risk or loss of performance. We have a huge savings in vaping vs. combustion. Scrimping on batt's should not be one of them.

Good luck all.

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If it's auto firing, it is a safety concern and I would not continue using it.

Mine started doing the exact same thing about a week ago. It is totally unreliable. for a while, I thought I got it working, took a few vapes, then set it down on the table beside me. About 10 minutes later, it started hissing...it was auto firing on it's own without me even touching it. I think it's a defective pc board. Since I bought it from Fasttech, and I know that Cloupor won't accept any returns from items bought from Fasttech, I cannot send it back to Cloupor. So, I decided to open it up and take a look.

The first thing I checked, was if it was a defective switch. I opened the device and took out the buttons. I manually connected wire to the pc board touching the button contacts, and it would still fire for 15 seconds. So, the problem is not with the button, but the pc board.

The PC board is loosely in there, it's not screwed in. It has two slots that hold the pc board in. They put a heavy amount of solder on the 510, probably to keep the 510 connected and put the wires to the 510. Then they put a huge glob of a rubbery substance around that solder, probably to keep the wires from moving. I'm not complaining about how it's made, just that it makes it difficult to replace the pc board.

One day, I might buy another pc board and 510 and attempt to fix it. It looks like it has the same setup as a Yihi board. I think just this pc board is defective. It's a shame too, since I loved the device and it was my main unit for a while and preferred the aesthetics and feel of it over my Sigeli (which I am using at the moment) I would say do NOT use it, since any mod that fires on it's own is dangerous, and will ruin your coils.
 

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Remarkable Neil. Thanks for the effort. Been quite a few years since I've done any serious board work. Of all the boxes I've sampled, I've really been diggin the form factor of the pair of GT's I have tho. Good power if a bit shy of its rating and great batt life. Kinda spooky all this. Sorry for the OP if a new vaper and that's what he/she's runnin into. But you get whatcha pay for I guess. Not a criticism, I was gonna buy a couple'a three more for the apocalypse cache at the bargain basement prices (as low as 28$) I've seen lately. I'm groovin on the Cmini too (drivin these VVV) for sub-tanks and some've said it craps out too. Yeah, better safe than sorry on the board as you say.

Good luck all. :)

 

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Think I should've read the post better. How can you "use" a mod without "firing" it?

If it stays fired then when hit till cutoff, it's not exactly the same thing as firing by itself. At 15 seconds it had a cutoff, as reported. Too little info here and too much of a hazard to guess. Agree ST.

Good luck.

:)


Sorry but you fail to understand the situation.

He was using a 510 adapter because his atty didn't make proper connection and autofiring

Several mods aurofire for one reason or another. Just recently there was a thread about the Cherry Bomber mod autofiring.

Mech mods don't have the safety features they will Fire as long as the button is pressed or incorrect connection is made.

I certainly don't want an autofire in my pocket where the wick is burned and miles from home and can't vape until I get home and put another atty on my mod or rebuild.

I do not want the positive pin getting so big it melts my insulator.

Lastly I don't want the batteries getting so hot they fry my board in a regulated mod

Or in a mevch mod getting super hot burning me or the batteries venting or going boom.

30 years ago I dropped a 9v battery in my pocket before driving home. It made connection with a quarter in my pocket as I drove home within s minute or two the battery and quarter got so hot it was burning my leg. After another mile the battery was so hot I had to pull offbtge road and toss the battery.

Batteries are wonderful things but can be dangerous if abused.

Some 18650 batteries hold 3,000 mah of direct current charge.

Anker makes a 10,000 msh battery pack that can charge a car battery enough to start the car.
 
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Sorry but you fail to understand the situation.

He was using a 510 adapter because his atty didn't make proper connection and autofiring

Several mods aurofire for one reason or another. Just recently there was a thread about the Cherry Bomber mod autofiring.

Mech mods don't have the safety features they will Fire as long as the button is pressed or incorrect connection is made.

I certainly don't want an autofire in my pocket where the wick is burned and miles from home and can't vape until I get home and put another atty on my mod or rebuild.

I do not want the positive pin getting so big it melts my insulator.

Lastly I don't want the batteries getting so hot they fry my board in a regulated mod

Or in a mevch mod getting super hot burning me or the batteries venting or going boom.

30 years ago I dropped a 9v battery in my pocket before driving home. It made connection with a quarter in my pocket as I drove home within s minute or two the battery and quarter got so hot it was burning my leg. After another mile the battery was so hot I had to pull offbtge road and toss the battery.

Batteries are wonderful things but can be dangerous if abused.

Some 18650 batteries hold 3,000 mah of direct current charge.

Anker makes a 10,000 msh battery pack that can charge a car battery enough to start the car.

I read it right. Just not completely the first time. The problem as you say could be several. I replace the air filter before I pull the engine. So the first thought was the pin. Then possibly the switch button. But most likely given the above, board error (or bad batt which can induce anomalies in variables). OP suggested device worked correctly with adapter (until not). So I dismissed other possibilities initially (my bad). Agree with your sentiments.

Good luck, vape on.

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I read it right. Just not completely the first time. The problem as you say could be several. I replace the air filter before I pull the engine. So the first thought was the pin. Then possibly the switch button. But most likely given the above, board error (or bad batt which can induce anomalies in variables). OP suggested device worked correctly with adapter (until not). So I dismissed other possibilities initially (my bad). Agree with your sentiments.

Good luck, vape on.

:)

No worries. It's all good.
 
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Sorry but you fail to understand the situation.

He was using a 510 adapter because his atty didn't make proper connection and autofiring

Several mods aurofire for one reason or another. Just recently there was a thread about the Cherry Bomber mod autofiring.

Mech mods don't have the safety features they will Fire as long as the button is pressed or incorrect connection is made.

I certainly don't want an autofire in my pocket where the wick is burned and miles from home and can't vape until I get home and put another atty on my mod or rebuild.

I do not want the positive pin getting so big it melts my insulator.

Lastly I don't want the batteries getting so hot they fry my board in a regulated mod

Or in a mevch mod getting super hot burning me or the batteries venting or going boom.

30 years ago I dropped a 9v battery in my pocket before driving home. It made connection with a quarter in my pocket as I drove home within s minute or two the battery and quarter got so hot it was burning my leg. After another mile the battery was so hot I had to pull offbtge road and toss the battery.

Batteries are wonderful things but can be dangerous if abused.

Some 18650 batteries hold 3,000 mah of direct current charge.

Anker makes a 10,000 msh battery pack that can charge a car battery enough to start the car.

The cloupor GT is a regulated mod not mechanical. It has a safety feature of a 15 second max timer on vaping. That's quite a long time, and it's designed for just such an occasion as what is happening with our mods.. they will fire on their own with no provocation. It is a problem with the PC board. Set it on the table, de-soldier the button and it will probably still fire.... at least that's my theory. I know it's not a problem with the button.

It is still a safety issue. IF this is happening with a regulated mod, who knows what else is wrong... it may not fire at the right wattage, it may be shorted to the case.... the possibilities are unlimited. And this is while using lithium batteries, which can be hazardous if not used right. That's the case with all batteries, but more so with lithium. IT can happen with alkaline as well. A company I worked for had part of the warehouse burn down because they stored their double A batteries in a bin that were used for remotes. One day, they managed to make a closed circuit, and the whole bin heated up and caught fire. When the fire alarm and sprinklers went off, it put out the fire, and managed to water all the electronics in the warehouse.
 

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The cloupor GT is a regulated mod not mechanical. It has a safety feature of a 15 second max timer on vaping. That's quite a long time, and it's designed for just such an occasion as what is happening with our mods.. they will fire on their own with no provocation. It is a problem with the PC board. Set it on the table, de-soldier the button and it will probably still fire.... at least that's my theory. I know it's not a problem with the button.

It is still a safety issue. IF this is happening with a regulated mod, who knows what else is wrong... it may not fire at the right wattage, it may be shorted to the case.... the possibilities are unlimited. And this is while using lithium batteries, which can be hazardous if not used right. That's the case with all batteries, but more so with lithium. IT can happen with alkaline as well. A company I worked for had part of the warehouse burn down because they stored their double A batteries in a bin that were used for remotes. One day, they managed to make a closed circuit, and the whole bin heated up and caught fire. When the fire alarm and sprinklers went off, it put out the fire, and managed to water all the electronics in the warehouse.

Thanks for a heads up on the Cloupor.

I was just pointing out things that could go wrong no matter whether the mod is regulated or a Mech.

Auto fire in ANY mod is a recipe for disaster.
 
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