Coffee, after dinner: Anyone have this problem?

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The Cloud Minder

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So, I'm in the process of quitting, target date 8/2, and vaping is working great except for 2 times: with coffee, and right after I eat.

The vape just doesn't seem to go well with coffee, and after I eat, it seems I want a "burnt" taste. Now I don't want to wreck my rig to get a burning taste, so any suggestions?
 

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vaping after meals is an acquired taste, just like learning to prefer your vape over your cigarette. After meals, vape and smoke alternately (one in the left hand and one in the right) and evaluate the taste. Doing that made me appreciate the fact that cigs taste pretty bad. The vape tastes really good. Once I made that connection mentally it was easy to drop those last few.
 

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Honestly? I would either look for something that goes with coffee or try a NET (naturally extracted tobacco).

Those are the hardest ones to stop. Don't force it, have your vape sitting next to you and keep your mind busy. The moment I realized I didn't need that morning one was when I found myself reaching for the PV while reading ECF. I realized my cig was just burning up in the ashtray. I was focused on something else and subconsciously was vaping instead of smoking.
 

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I too suggest finding a flavor that complements the coffee.

My all day vape (ADV) is a coffee/cinnamon roll / caramel mix, and then there's the bananas foster tank, and the dutch apple pie tank...

Yeah, most of my favorite flavors orient to working well with a cup of coffee - which not surprisingly, is perpetually by my side! :D

Something that snuck up on me after 4-5 months of vaping, is that tobacco flavors no longer have a spot in my menu.

My tastebuds have relegated my 43 years of cigarette+coffee association to just fond memories.
 

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If what you're vaping doesn't go with coffee try finding a flavor that does, try some bakery / desert flavors, I'm a heavy coffee drinker so everything I vape HAS to go with coffee :)

Not sure what to suggest for a burnt taste after eating, maybe one of the tobacco flavors would work for that,
Thing is, I'm only already using a tobacco flavor, in fact, tobacco flavors are all I really vape. However, I have ordered some new stuff, including a dessert flavor, maybe that will work.
 
This is very common, addiction is very complex and in the years you have smoked your brain has established this habit/ritual of having a cigarette after coffee and meals. Its not really about cigarettes tasting better after those things, its more that you have tied the smoking (flavour, nicotine, physical action) with the satisfaction from the meal and the coffee. Coffee in particular is very powerful becasue you are flooding your brain with nicotine and caffeine at the same time, and that positive feeling has now been connecting to smoking.

My advice would be to read a book called 'the power of habit', theres a chapter on smoking, but its really about all habits and how complex they are. I found the best approach is to take steps to disturb the habits, while also having a substitute. The ecig can be a good substitute, but I would actually try switching flavours to something that isn't so similar to your existing habit. And instead of having a cup of coffee at your desk, go for a walk and have a cup of tea, just anythign that you can think of that is different from your current habit but that gives you some enjoyment. For me I stayed with coffee, but I always went for a walk in the sun to get my coffee, and now I just walk somewhere and get a muffin.

Anyway, its a very interesting book, when you understand how habits work you are better equipped to replace them (as opposed to just 'quitting' whic is very difficult).
 

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I love my coffee. Gotta have a cup after dinner no matter what else is going on period! I keep a NET based liquid in an iClear 30 just for after dinner. My liquid of choice is Cigarillos from House of Vapors, a little pricey but I only use it, usually, after dinner. I also use a DIY cinnamon roll for after dinner. It seems to satisfy that urge but everyone is different.

Above all give it time. You probably smoked for years, like I did, and it takes a little time to learn new habits.
 
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