Coil help
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I am not sure how much experience you have or how familiar you are with building and even vaping in general but I will say if you are looking for vapor production my friend ... I would first ask you what your build is at? If you are using a coil build that is built at say .5 ohms .... the obvious answer is to build a lower resistance coil such as .3 or .4 ohms ... you could build below but I would not suggest it without knowledge and experience . If you already have a very low resistance build ... your next option would be to use a higher VG liquid ... if you use 50 / 50 ... go to 70/30 but if you already use 70VG / 30PG ... find a max VG but note you will sacrifice flavour for this . If you have done both and are not satisfied my vapor chasing warrior ... you must add airflow to your device , use an RDA with drilled out airflow , pre built or self drilled but again do your home work first before ruining something . I would do a look at or possibly review of cloud chaser inc . RDA and see how they have the airflow ..not saying you must buy this brand specifically but its what came to mind as an example . If you STILL have not enough Jason ... you can find an unregulated device to build very low on or you must get a mod with higher wattage to add a punch to your power ... 65 watts can only do what is built for 65 watts friend .
I want to note ... please research and learn battery safety ... use high amp high drain batteries from a reputable company . Please use ohms calculators to do the proper math and always check 2 or 3 times on the math . Please make sure you have a device that vents properly and has good airflow as to not over heat . I hope this information serves you well friend and good luck! let me know what you think and how it goes for you .
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Aries
I am not sure how much experience you have or how familiar you are with building and even vaping in general but I will say if you are looking for vapor production my friend ... I would first ask you what your build is at? If you are using a coil build that is built at say .5 ohms .... the obvious answer is to build a lower resistance coil such as .3 or .4 ohms ... you could build below but I would not suggest it without knowledge and experience . If you already have a very low resistance build ... your next option would be to use a higher VG liquid ... if you use 50 / 50 ... go to 70/30 but if you already use 70VG / 30PG ... find a max VG but note you will sacrifice flavour for this . If you have done both and are not satisfied my vapor chasing warrior ... you must add airflow to your device , use an RDA with drilled out airflow , pre built or self drilled but again do your home work first before ruining something . I would do a look at or possibly review of cloud chaser inc . RDA and see how they have the airflow ..not saying you must buy this brand specifically but its what came to mind as an example . If you STILL have not enough Jason ... you can find an unregulated device to build very low on or you must get a mod with higher wattage to add a punch to your power ... 65 watts can only do what is built for 65 watts friend .
I want to note ... please research and learn battery safety ... use high amp high drain batteries from a reputable company . Please use ohms calculators to do the proper math and always check 2 or 3 times on the math . Please make sure you have a device that vents properly and has good airflow as to not over heat . I hope this information serves you well friend and good luck! let me know what you think and how it goes for you .
VAPESAFE
Aries
different coil builds may also help friend as they have larger service area to heat up liquid .. good for flavour and vapor production . research some different builds which cater to vapor productions 
Hey mate! Unfortunately your post is very, very vague. Chances are you're going to want to be looking at things like parallel wires and twisted wires for more surface area. Go on youtube and check out "twisted messes" and give yourself ideas. I'm also going to send you Flux's page because he loves answering these sorts of things.
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...x/5403-advanced-education-mech-rba-users.html
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...x/5403-advanced-education-mech-rba-users.html
Hey mate! Unfortunately your post is very, very vague. Chances are you're going to want to be looking at things like parallel wires and twisted wires for more surface area. Go on youtube and check out "twisted messes" and give yourself ideas. I'm also going to send you Flux's page because he loves answering these sorts of things.
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...x/5403-advanced-education-mech-rba-users.html
I'll second that it's rather vague. Build parameters would be great:
Resistance
Wire Gauge (and composition, if not Kanthal)
Number of coils
Inner diameter
Wicking material
I think that should cover it... Then we can look up the stats on steam-engine.org to see what's up.
Also, what wattage are you using, and for fun, battery?
One very important factor is airflow. The patriot (at least the clone I have) has very small airholes. You'll need to drill them out to get decent clouds.
So little info....oye.
Why do I sense another sub ohm'er in the making here, ok...here we go.
A lot of things go in to as you say making more vapor, keep in mind most of them don't require you to reproduce the conditions inside a nuclear reactor going critical to achieve.
To understand how a coil works is to understand what is happening on a base level. First off understand what is a coil, its a heating element, a resistor without the ceramic casing. So, now we get in to oHm's law, to understand what resistance has to do with heat and amp draw limits. If you can't really explain how your atomizer works then no use in picking it back up unless you fully understand it.
Ok, we have gotten past that whole mess, we can talk about surface area. Something important in coil building, hate to say it but the only singular reason why sub ohm folks are getting more vapor is because they are maximizing the surface area by adding more wraps using a lower gauge wire (wow, problem solved right, nope). The more wraps you put on the higher the amp draw, natively all gauge wire has not only an ohm/ft but also an amperage rating to go along with that.
To maximize surface area you don't need zero spaced micro coils, again to understand this principal water in a pipe drains out faster from a solid pipe or one with holes in it. remember the issue your facing is that wicking acts like a cork for vapor so anything produced within the coils has no means of escape, the solution would to be micro space the coils, remember you'll get the same effect if you keep the induction heating area overlapping as it will heat the spaces between the coils as efficiently as the coils themselves. Also take the time and care to set up your coils perfectly as you should have them for 2 or 3 months with proper care and changing of the wicking material, I've successfully changed out Cotton, Rayon and Silica on a regular basis in my coils.
Base line is to learn the science behind what is happening, trust me when I say that you don't need fancy named wire types to produce more vapor then you can handle in one take. I know that this is a resounding cry from me but above all "BE SAFE" at what you do, RBA's are not tinker toys to play with without serious consequence if something goes wrong.
Why do I sense another sub ohm'er in the making here, ok...here we go.
A lot of things go in to as you say making more vapor, keep in mind most of them don't require you to reproduce the conditions inside a nuclear reactor going critical to achieve.
To understand how a coil works is to understand what is happening on a base level. First off understand what is a coil, its a heating element, a resistor without the ceramic casing. So, now we get in to oHm's law, to understand what resistance has to do with heat and amp draw limits. If you can't really explain how your atomizer works then no use in picking it back up unless you fully understand it.
Ok, we have gotten past that whole mess, we can talk about surface area. Something important in coil building, hate to say it but the only singular reason why sub ohm folks are getting more vapor is because they are maximizing the surface area by adding more wraps using a lower gauge wire (wow, problem solved right, nope). The more wraps you put on the higher the amp draw, natively all gauge wire has not only an ohm/ft but also an amperage rating to go along with that.
To maximize surface area you don't need zero spaced micro coils, again to understand this principal water in a pipe drains out faster from a solid pipe or one with holes in it. remember the issue your facing is that wicking acts like a cork for vapor so anything produced within the coils has no means of escape, the solution would to be micro space the coils, remember you'll get the same effect if you keep the induction heating area overlapping as it will heat the spaces between the coils as efficiently as the coils themselves. Also take the time and care to set up your coils perfectly as you should have them for 2 or 3 months with proper care and changing of the wicking material, I've successfully changed out Cotton, Rayon and Silica on a regular basis in my coils.
Base line is to learn the science behind what is happening, trust me when I say that you don't need fancy named wire types to produce more vapor then you can handle in one take. I know that this is a resounding cry from me but above all "BE SAFE" at what you do, RBA's are not tinker toys to play with without serious consequence if something goes wrong.
Wow, you guys are super helpful. You have also ruined my experiment to see how deep State O' Flux's well of patience goes, so now I have to return all the money in the pool.
I hope you're proud of yourselves.
I hope you're proud of yourselves.
Wow, you guys are super helpful. You have also ruined my experiment to see how deep State O' Flux's well of patience goes, so now I have to return all the money in the pool.
I hope you're proud of yourselves.
You should see the comments I've been leaving on his blog. I'm running my own series of tests, no worries. You can keep the money until you lose
is there a local vape shop in your area?? see if they have any clouderz working there and have them build a coil/wick for you, ask what ohm and gauge they used and what wick and be prepared to spend 10+ $ for the build once its built study the way it was built and reproduce it.....
Wow, you guys are super helpful. You have also ruined my experiment to see how deep State O' Flux's well of patience goes, so now I have to return all the money in the pool.
I hope you're proud of yourselves.
You know, if you really want to see how deep that well goes then all you have to do is answer each question in a randomly chosen word. Or you could post one word per post until the entirety of the message is finished, also randomly selecting the time between postings would help to. I'd say that a normal person would break within the hour.
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