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  1. er767

    er767 Senior Member ECF Veteran

    Jun 4, 2012
    nj
    Hi all, I'm fairly new to vaping, and love it already. The only thing I can't stand is going through coils like crazy. I've been reading multiple posts on cleaning etc. My question is, once they start to leak, are they completely shot? I'm only getting a few days, if I'm lucky, out of a coil. I'm using an aero tank mini, an I clear 30, an aspire bdc, and a lotus. I don't want to keep buying coils are this rate, and can't stand when in the middle of the day, they just start gurgling etc...
    Thanks for any advice.
     
  2. FallenRawToast

    FallenRawToast Ultra Member ECF Veteran

    Mar 30, 2014
    LA, CA, USA, NA, SOL
    Your coil, if it is new, old or rebuilt has nothing to do with gurgling. (This doesnt apply to rebuildable tanks, with those.. having too much or too little wick can cause gurgle)

    You know you need to replace or rebuild a coil, only when you start getting burnt taste or less vape. This is only because the wick material inside the coil has gunked up with stuff (left over remnants of the flavoring) that hasnt burnt off or is caramelized.



    Gurgle, normally means there is liquid trapped in the stem between the coil and the top of the drip tip. This can be cause either by bad o-ring, fake coils that are poorly cloned, or from condensation. The O-ring problem is easy to spot, are they damaged and do they seat properly? Dont buy cheap knockoff coils! And for the condensation issue.. always continue to suck air for a half a second to a second after you release the fire button.
     
  3. er767

    er767 Senior Member ECF Veteran

    Jun 4, 2012
    nj
    I don't believe they are knock offs. I purchased a couple at my local b and m yesterday, and within an hour, my aero mini was leaking and gurgling. I switched to another coil, and it has been fine, but only for a day so far lol
     
  4. AzPlumber

    AzPlumber Vaping Master Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Aug 28, 2011
    Arizona
    I guess it's possible that your coils get so gunked up that they restrict air flow causing you to suck harder and draw excess liquid into the atomizing chamber. The only true fix is to use a cleaner liquid that doesn't load up your coils as fast.

    Have you tried different voltages or different coil resistance (ohms) to see if either would help?
     
  5. FallenRawToast

    FallenRawToast Ultra Member ECF Veteran

    Mar 30, 2014
    LA, CA, USA, NA, SOL
    there is nothing about your coil, or how it works, that will cause it to do that. Except the way you are using it. When you change the coil, you are just giving the condensation caught in the chimney stem a place to be absorbed, that is why it makes the symptoms you are experiencing go away.

    Adjust the way you vape, and you wont have this problme, IMO.

    If you cant do it, by continuing to suck for a bit after you release the fire button, then when you get the gurgle, roil up a piece of napkin a bit, and slide it down the drip tip and chimney, slowly rotating it. If it comes back up totally soaked, do it again with a new piece.
     
  6. twgbonehead

    twgbonehead Vaping Master ECF Veteran

    Apr 28, 2011
    MA, USA
    An easier method, when the atty starts gurgling, is to turn the atty upside down, and blow through the bottom (holding a paper towel over the end).

    Or use a q-tip.
     
  7. Susan~S

    Susan~S ECF Guru Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Mar 12, 2014
    Mpls/St.Paul, MN
    FLOODING/LEAKING
    To fix a flooded atomizer take your tank off the battery and blow through the mouthpiece (with a paper towel under it). This will drain the extra eliquid.

    When you inhale, take a long smooth draw vs a short sharp draw. This will prevent extra eliquid from being pulled into your coils and flooding it. Inhalation technique with an e-cigarette

    Whenever you first sense that your atomizer is beginning to flood try this:
    1. Open up the airflow so when you take a hit you are not pulling in as much juice into your coils (if your tank has airflow control) .
    2. Raise your voltage or wattage if your battery allows you to do this. This will vaporize more eliquid.
    3. Tip your battery up (and take a few hits). By tipping it up you will prevent more eliquid from being fed into the coils.

    Give one or all of these a try.:)
     
  8. FallenRawToast

    FallenRawToast Ultra Member ECF Veteran

    Mar 30, 2014
    LA, CA, USA, NA, SOL
    I try not to stick my mouth to places where lots of ejuice might be, base of tanks is one of those places.

    Q-tips dont always easily fit down chimneys :( Plus out and about, you can always get your hand on a napkin.... far easier than a q-tip.
     
  9. polarbare

    polarbare Senior Member

    Oct 10, 2014
    Texas
    Learn from this - I wound up figuring it out on my own :) Most likely you are drawing too hard and fast (that was my problem at first). I see you have a nautilus, so you can adjust the airflow to a bigger hole to get more air in (but with larger airflow, less concentrated taste) to keep from flooding.

    It takes a bit of trial and error to adjust your power vs airflow vs draw until you find the right technique. I tend to vape at lower power settings than most (about 5.5 watts with a 1.8 ohm coil) on the nautilus, as I really don't like anything scorched. Once I scorch the sucker (whether coil gunk or the wicks in the atomizer), the taste is horrible, and it's time for a new atomizer.

    As an aside, this is what led me into doing rebuilds for the nautilus - I finally found a technique that works beautifully (will post up a thread once I get enough posts...)
     
  10. dragonpuff

    dragonpuff Ultra Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    You have a nautilus! So do I, those things flood a lot! It's got nothing to do with your coil, you should be able to use that coil right up until it starts to taste bad.

    Quick fix for gurgling nautilus - I'm going to try to describe this as best as I can:

    1. Hold your tank horizontally, completely sideways, with the drip tip by your mouth and the 510 connection pointed away from you (does that make sense?)

    2. Spin it so that the open airhole is facing downward

    3. Get a napkin or tissue and hold it under the airhole

    4. Blow into the drip tip. You should see liquid coming out of the airhole onto the napkin. Keep doing this until no liquid is coming out.

    Also, when vaping a nautilus, it's best to hold it horizontally as much as you can. This may not be the way you're used to holding it, so it may take some getting used to, but it will help to prevent it from flooding.

    Good luck! :)
     
  11. tjwhrm

    tjwhrm Full Member Verified Member

    Oct 7, 2014
    Omaha, NE
    Great suggstions from Dragonpuff and Susan-s! I have had troubles like this with Aerotank and Nautilus - even Mini Protanks and a combination of their suggestions helped solved the problem. But I can confirm that soemtimes there is a bad coil in the bunch too and nothing helps but getting a new one.
     
  12. bigbob2322

    bigbob2322 Vaping Master Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Jul 27, 2014
    Schiller PK IL USA
    Sometimes when you add or change juice when you unscrew the cap your coil can become loose. Always make sure your coil is tight because if loose, juice can get under it and cause gurgle. It has happened to me many times.
     
  13. er767

    er767 Senior Member ECF Veteran

    Jun 4, 2012
    nj
    OK, will try, thanks for all the info
     
  14. Tygerlovesdeb

    Tygerlovesdeb Moved On

    Oct 13, 2014
    College Station, Texas
    I am not a fan of tanks. I like the dippers and building my own coils. I clean them about once a week when I change my cotton wicking material. I get them hot and use an eye dropper to drop a little distilled water on them. That usually will clean off the carmalization. I never heard of coils in tanks going bad so quick unless you fry them with a two much voltage or watts. I ruined an Aspire when I first started hooking it up to a Hexohm on full voltage.
     
  15. Hendric5

    Hendric5 Full Member

    Oct 13, 2014
    michigan
    i always had gurgle with my pro tank , got tired of it and moved onto rda,s and rba
     
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