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The best way to figure out resistances, is trial and error. Grab a roll of kanthal, 24g, 26g, 28g, an ohm reader, and a mod. Twist some coils, check em, twist some more, check em. Try to make the exact same coil over and over again and see if they read the same, then get into duals.

Dual Coils have to be the the exact same, and fire at the exact same time, otherwise you will run into many more problems.....
 

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i dont know how to factor in micro coils in the steam thing so can someone answer this real quick
i want dual micro coils i got a 3mm bit 24g kantal how many wraps per coil? for 0.5ohm

Here it is modeled in Steam Engine. You didn't say how many watts you plan to run this at so I plugged in 80 as I think that's the lowest you'll be able to run this at. I don't think it will make much vapor at less than that and the heat up time is going to be long.

Let us know what mod you've got, how many watts you want to use and what atty you're using. That will allow us to give you more advice.
 

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If I've done it correctly you want 11 wraps on each coil. Technically 3mm is not a "micro" coil, and you don't have to adjust anything on steam engine for contact coils. You want each coil to be 1ohm if you are going for dual at 0.5ohm. 24g is pretty thick for that high of a resistance.
well all i got is 24g kanthal, and i got a 3mm 2.4mm 2mm and 1.4mm percision screw drivers to build on, i want dual coils, i got japanese cotton, im new so i was tryen to find some easy method iv watched videos how to wrap the coils i just gotta know the wraps and which mm
 

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Here it is modeled in Steam Engine. You didn't say how many watts you plan to run this at so I plugged in 80 as I think that's the lowest you'll be able to run this at. I don't think it will make much vapor at less than that and the heat up time is going to be long.

Let us know what mod you've got, how many watts you want to use and what atty you're using. That will allow us to give you more advice.
i have a jellyfish box mod you see the size screwdrivers i got do you think any other build would be better for now?
 

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i have a jellyfish box mod you see the size screwdrivers i got do you think any other build would be better for now?

24 gauge wire with dual coils, 0.25 ohms minimum and 53 watt max to work with, I would aim for 0.3 ohms, use the 3 mm pin and use 7/6 wraps (it will have 7 wires on one side of the coil and 6 on the other). Modeled in Steam Engine. Heat flux is 184 mW/mm² which is a cool vape, but the heat capacity of 56, though better than at 0.5 ohms still means it will have heat up delay. It is though quite a bit better than at 0.5 ohms.

I would not have gone with 24 gauge wire for this setup. You also didn't say what atty you have or how many watts you want to vape at so I can't give you much more in the way of suggestions. I suggest you try it at 0.3 ohms, see how you like it and you can change things from there.
 
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24 gauge wire with dual coils, 0.25 ohms minimum and 53 watt max to work with, I would aim for 0.3 ohms, use the 3 mm pin and use 7/6 wraps (it will have 7 wires on one side of the coil and 6 on the other). Modeled in Steam Engine. Heat flux is 184 mW/mm² which is a cool vape, but the heat capacity of 56, though better than at 0.5 ohms still means it will have heat up delay. It is though quite a bit better than at 0.5 ohms.

I would not have gone with 24 gauge wire for this setup. You also didn't say what atty you have or how many watts you want to vape at so I can't give you much more in the way of suggestions. I suggest you try it at 0.3 ohms, see how you like it and you can change things from there.
the jellyfish is in mine, so it heats up double what it reads 15 = 30 etc, so it will heat around 100 watts, dont ask me how or why it just does.
 

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It's a 53 watt/6 volt mod. How could it "heat around 100 watts"?

PRODUCT DESCRIPTION

Why the Jellyfish:
  • Functionality
  • Proprietary chip technology
  • Spring loaded 510 connection
  • 4000 mAh 53W 6V regulated Box Mod
  • has two internal 3.7V 2000 mAh 15c 45A Polymer batteries running in series (No screws!)
  • Displays actual real time voltage/watttage under load
  • Resistance .25 - 3.5 ohm
  • Round robin voltage and wattage settings
  • Two tank memorization
  • Output charging (can charge other media devices)
 

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It's a 53 watt/6 volt mod. How could it "heat around 100 watts"?

PRODUCT DESCRIPTION

Why the Jellyfish:
  • Functionality
  • Proprietary chip technology
  • Spring loaded 510 connection
  • 4000 mAh 53W 6V regulated Box Mod
  • has two internal 3.7V 2000 mAh 15c 45A Polymer batteries running in series (No screws!)
  • Displays actual real time voltage/watttage under load
  • Resistance .25 - 3.5 ohm
  • Round robin voltage and wattage settings
  • Two tank memorization
  • Output charging (can charge other media devices)
im not a tech watch anyone do a video on it, even professionals, its in some other measure of reading. than watts or something.
 

DeathFox

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It's a 53 watt/6 volt mod. How could it "heat around 100 watts"?

PRODUCT DESCRIPTION

Why the Jellyfish:
  • Functionality
  • Proprietary chip technology
  • Spring loaded 510 connection
  • 4000 mAh 53W 6V regulated Box Mod
  • has two internal 3.7V 2000 mAh 15c 45A Polymer batteries running in series (No screws!)
  • Displays actual real time voltage/watttage under load
  • Resistance .25 - 3.5 ohm
  • Round robin voltage and wattage settings
  • Two tank memorization
  • Output charging (can charge other media devices)
i found this one for u
 

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That mod is going to be tough to work with. The reason it "hits harder" is because it is utilizing pulse width modulation in mean. Poorly I might add. IOW it is extremely inaccurate and you might need advice from someone who has used this device before. It also gives you a set range of wattage according to the resistance of your atomizer. So it reads your coil and then tells you where it's going to vape.
Hard to say how you should build on this mod.
I say get vapers toolbox, it has a great calculator. Also if you wanted to know more about the jellyfish....
A PBusardo Review - The Lotus Jellyfish:
 
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i can put a aspire atlantis tank on it, vape at 15w and it vapes same taste/heat/clouds as it does at 30w on a innokin

Sounds to me like it will do better with the 0.3 ohm setup than I thought because I thought it was an accurate 53 watt max. Try it DeathFox, you've got the 24 gauge wire so you have nothing to lose. If you find you want to lower the power but you don't like the heat up time you can either go with a single coil setup using the 24 gauge wire or get some 26, 27 or 28 gauge wire depending on the power you want to vape at and if you want a cool or warm vape.

Let us know how it goes.
 
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