this rubuilding is harder than it looked on the videos. looks like i am going to be spending my entore vaction trying to get this right. lol wish me luck cause i only have so many supplies.
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yes it does take some mechanical skills to turn coils. what type of coils are you building? if you are building traditional coils, you can wrap the wire around a screw placing the wire in the threads and unscrew the screw and you will be left with a perfectly spaced coils. if you are building micro or nano, get a syringe needle (blut tip if possible) and wind the wire on that. then take some needle nose pliers of tweezers and torch the coil while gently squeezing together.
It is kind of a b---- when you first get started. You should give micro coils a shot. Maybe you will have more luck wrapping wire around a 1/16" drill bit. It will prolly be a bit easier to wrap around something hard.
Good advice from E_. It gets easier, OP. I was finding it difficult to hold onto the piece I was winding on, along with holding the initial "loop" with the same hand to get a tight wrap. Now, just a few weeks later I can make a pretty decent microcoil on a 1/16 drillbit in a few minutes. I found that in the beginning, I was cutting off *way* too much Kanthal. The app isn't perfect (doesn't account for microcoils that touch, for instance) but Vapers Toolbox does a pretty good job of estimating # of coils and amount of wire you'll need, if you would find that helpful. I use Android and it was free in the Play Store, FWIW. Good luck and keep at it!
rebuilding is not that hard, just get some steady supplies before you really get into it, running out of wire or wick when rebuilding really sucks, go to amazon and get some 28ga A-1 kanthal and some cotton like peaches &creme or sugar&cream, which are really two great cotton yarn for rebuilds that you can buy from walmart for 706 yards for $8.00, the wire on the other hand you will have to buy from online which will take a while but it is worth it when you get feet of a wire and you know you wont run out for a while, just take your time when winding the coil and make sure you have everything done in a safe matter. dont dry burn cotton it will start a .... storm in your atty, take a look at riptrippers, grimmgreen, or pbusardo on youtube, their videos will help you out a bunch
what are you making coils for?? replacement coils for a atomizer or for a rebuild-able.
for my protank coils I run a sewing needle into the wick longways and wrap the coil directly onto it. I find this MUCH easier than trying to wrap a coil then feed the wick through it. the needle will make the wick material stiff so it doesn't flex around as you are wrapping.
the very first wrap is always the hardest to get, don't worry if it doesn't look great because you can loosen the starting side and re-lay that loop to line up with the rest after you are done.
oh and torching the wire before starting really helps as it takes some of the spring out of the wire so it pretty much goes where you put it and stays there.
for my protank coils I run a sewing needle into the wick longways and wrap the coil directly onto it. I find this MUCH easier than trying to wrap a coil then feed the wick through it. the needle will make the wick material stiff so it doesn't flex around as you are wrapping.
the very first wrap is always the hardest to get, don't worry if it doesn't look great because you can loosen the starting side and re-lay that loop to line up with the rest after you are done.
oh and torching the wire before starting really helps as it takes some of the spring out of the wire so it pretty much goes where you put it and stays there.
If i'm just wrapping a standard coil on any RBA.
I typically just quickly wrap it up sloppy.
When the coil is lit its very easy to adjust it with a fine flat head screwdriver.
Soon you'll be pro OP just don't give up.
I typically just quickly wrap it up sloppy.
When the coil is lit its very easy to adjust it with a fine flat head screwdriver.
Soon you'll be pro OP just don't give up.
I can't seem to nail micro coils but wrapping on the syringe needle or drillbit allows you to wrap an almost perfect coil everytime.
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I am trying my hand at kanger pro tank coils. Right now I am just practicing on cotton. Every time I was check it course it burns out the cotton. I do have some silica but holding on to that until I get it kinda mastered. I have 32 g kanthal. It is about 30 ft. Tried a tooth pick but the coil was too loose. May check my tool box for a small drill bit and see how that works. At least I have ordered some new coils just in case. Gives me more time to practice. Lol
Managed to get one to about 1.8 but when I put liquid and tried to use it it crashed and burned. Lol got all week so will try it again tomorrow. Thank god they make them pre made for now.
Here's a link to Grimm's video on rebuilding a protank. I've been rebuilding all my vivi novas and bottom coil tanks forever, I've never bought any replacement heads so if you have any questions please feel free to message me
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I use a 1/16th inch drill bit to wrap my coils and pull my organic cotton through.... Makes for a great vape!
All said and done, this was the best video for me to learn rebuilding evod/protank heads.
Vapor Lady Lounge Rebuild a Protank Atomizer, eVod Atomizer A New Way - YouTube
I tried wrapping around a machine screw, but it was a disaster - couldn't see close enough to get the wire into the threading!
Vapor Lady Lounge Rebuild a Protank Atomizer, eVod Atomizer A New Way - YouTube
I tried wrapping around a machine screw, but it was a disaster - couldn't see close enough to get the wire into the threading!
It sounds like your not burning your wire before you wrap it around a toothpick. If the wire is torched really good, it will stay in the exact shap as you wrap it at. Micro coils work best in a protank head because they are so small and easier to adjust to the middle and not touch the sides of the head (which will short it out).
After using a lighter to torch your wire, then let cool andf wrap the coil around it. When done wraping the coil, then with needle nose plyers, squeeze the coil together so that it is tight and the wirs are all touching each other tightly (but not overlapping) This is a micro coil.
If its not tight enough for you, take the coil off the toothpick and torch again and gingerly squeeze the coil together making a very tight fit.
Remember, the heat makes the coils not so springy and makes it stay in one place.
Then put the coil back on the toothpick (I highly suggest a drill bit) and then you can handle the coil roughly if your all thumbs and it wont distort the coil you just made while you are busy threading the wires through while putting the head back together.
When your all done, then slide the drill bit out of the coil and install your cotton.
Drip juice on the coil to prime it and put the tank back together.
After you two or three like this, you can wrap micro coild while watching the Big Bang Theory on TV without nthinking about what your doing.
You don't have to have the cotton in it to test it. Just hit the fire button without any cotton in there and see if it glows. Check for hot spots etc. That's how you dry burn to clean the coil anyway. Then add your cotton after.
this has all been of great help. i was able to rebuild all of my coils this weekend and they work wonderfully. getting between 1.8 and 2.5. yall have been a big help. now that i have this i am going to be looking for a rba to work with.
I recommend the scar or the igo-l. The igo gives you lots of room to work with. The scar is just a great vape airflow is amazing. I rebuild everything I haven't looked back since my first build. Have fun and vape away.
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Maybe I'm crazy, I don't use a jig or anything. I've wrapped nano coils on 1/32" bits, but 3/64" is my preferred micro coil size. My technique involves steady tension without trying to wrap them tight. Light, steady tension. Let the loose end of the wire slide into the next wrap as you go.
Then just wrap and keep them coils touching.
Takes some practice but I rarely ever mess a coil up. I just wrapped 3 micros in the past 30 minutes, and I'm wrapping 2 more in different sizes. Bits, jig, or blunt tip needle is really the way to go with micros.
Then just wrap and keep them coils touching.
Takes some practice but I rarely ever mess a coil up. I just wrapped 3 micros in the past 30 minutes, and I'm wrapping 2 more in different sizes. Bits, jig, or blunt tip needle is really the way to go with micros.
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