Cold soldering iron.

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Smokin Mink

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As a soldering iron it sucks, as a mod, it's ok
ripped out the guts, leds, etc.
6v by way of 4 AA batts
hooked it up to a 5.0ohm carto works pretty good.
battery life who knows
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Same thing I did, cept I left the guts pretty much intact and ripped the connector off of a dead ego battery pretty much plugged it in by putting the wires uder two screws that held the contacts inside, put some gorilla glue to hold the connector in place and started vaping, use it as a back up, used it for three days straight on the same four double a batteries, works pretty good just ugly as hell.
 

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Yeah, the ColdHeat was a joke of a soldering iron. Not good for anything besides a battery box for a nice HV Mod. Put an old RN4081/DSE103? battery connector on there (have enough 510 stuff, for now), then mounted a nice push button switch where the old one was. Yes, no master switch, but I don't keep batteries in it or carry it around with me, just built for fun. I like the way it feels in hand though, much better than a 'box' shape.

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I wish I could get my hands on one but they don't sell them in my part of the world. Has anyone actually tried using the heating element on this thing?

I don't really get why you would rip the heating part out of it and replace it with one out of a regular e-cig. This is also true with the electric cigarette lighter mods. There's an atomizer already in the thing why do people go through the trouble of ripping it out just to replace it with another?
 

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You'd probably be better off building your own with similar materials, graphite, batts, etc. One thing with these is the tip is very small and the surface area that gets heated needs to be very small too as anything larger in size acts as a heatsink and ruins any heat that may have been present. The tiniest piece of SS mesh would be needed, and if it were wet with juice and getting further cooling, then all bets are off.
 

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Well if you wanted to pay shipping and the cost I'd be more than happy to send you an unmodified one. What part of the world are you in anyway? There is no heating part ripped out, only the conductive soldering tip used to make the 'cold heat' which you probably wouldn't want to be inhaling fumes from anyway. If you get one to take apart you'll see what I mean. The ColdHeat isn't good for anything besides an ergonomic battery box to use for a mod IMO.
 

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Well if you wanted to pay shipping and the cost I'd be more than happy to send you an unmodified one. What part of the world are you in anyway? There is no heating part ripped out, only the conductive soldering tip used to make the 'cold heat' which you probably wouldn't want to be inhaling fumes from anyway. If you get one to take apart you'll see what I mean. The ColdHeat isn't good for anything besides an ergonomic battery box to use for a mod IMO.

I'm in central america and the shipping and customs is usually the deal breaker in buying things abroad. The soldering tip that makes the "cold heat" is the heating element. It's graphite and needs to be shorted out by what you are soldering (wires, soldering pad) to heat up.

asdaq is probably right about making up a homemade versión. Although I don't agree about the tip being too small. Have you seen the size of the coils inside an atomizer? Plus if it gets even half of the 800º in a second that the producer claims it should vape e-juice with no problem.
 
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Yeah...the ColdHeat was a joke. The entire tip had to make contact to heat up, it either overheated or underheated, reducing the quality of the joints and it was useless for pinpoint precision. But if you know what you're doing...you can hack this thing with a DVD laser diode and have a pretty cool laser gun lol! Mine broke a while back...but it was cool while it lasted. Word to the wise, the diode from a DVD burner can set a match on fire...so think twice about pointing it at someone!
 

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Bagazo - The ColdHeat isn't an atomizer in any way, IMO. The tip is worthless and not an atomizer, period lol. I think you would have to be a nicotine fiend with absolutely no last working battery or mod to consider using the soldering tip as an atomizer. Under the tip there's nothing but a 'plug' that the tip connects to. I don't know if maybe you're picturing how it works/how it's built differently?

Edit: Ummm locke2121 - Did you say laser gun? Like I could shoot someone with it? :evil: Ha ha.. Or like a laser pointer?
 
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Bagazo - The ColdHeat isn't an atomizer in any way, IMO. The tip is worthless and not an atomizer, period lol.

From the link in the OP.

A closer examination of the tip shows that it consists of two electrodes formed from a graphite-like material, retained by an injection moulding. It exhibits an electrical resistance and is a form of conductive high temperature compound.
I have also played around with graphite to light cigarettes. I talk about that on page 2 of this thread. If no one even bothers to use the cold heat tip as an atomizer then how is one to know?

Ditto for the heating element in the electric cigarette lighter like the http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/battery-mods/77007-3-minute-lighter-mod.html

At $5 you get a case, switch and heat source. Just add some SS mesh and mouthpiece. Drip and vape. Why take it apart to put in an atty that costs more than the lighter itself or in the case of the coldheat why turn it into a $13 battery holder?

Just saying.
 
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mjkjr

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Whatever :facepalm: I give up ha ha
Edit: Actually Bagazo, please build one of these mods if you're so sure it will work well. I really don't think that you're thinking it out, or maybe you have no common sense. I'm not trying to be a jerk, just pointing out the obvious. Some of us actually have a ColdHeat or one of those lighters, and we know that it just won't work well for a DIY atty, just like the ColdHeat didn't work well for it's original purpose. That is why we mod them to work well with quality atomizers and such lol. Just saying.

Thanks locke2121, I looked into it :2cool:
 
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mjkjr: Fair enough. It's just that hardly anyone actually makes a DIY atomizer. Most of the mods (including all the different types) include a stock atomizer or at most a repaired/replaced coil.

To be honest it's not so much about it actually working. I just want to know if anyone has even tried because I have been visiting this forum for years with these things popping up every now and then and no one ever really tries to make them work. They end up dropping an atty in there. That's not an atomizer mod, that's a case mod.
 
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How about the A2, the Genisis, or the Ato-mizer for examples of DIY atties? I think most people want to try to make something new that has an actual chance of working. The coldheat doesn't really offer that. Too much cold, not enough heat. A light bulb stands a better chance, hey there you go. ;)
 

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How about the A2, the Genisis, or the Ato-mizer for examples of DIY atties? I think most people want to try to make something new that has an actual chance of working. The coldheat doesn't really offer that. Too much cold, not enough heat. A light bulb stands a better chance, hey there you go. ;)

Well there are some actual DIY atomizers which is why I said most mods, not all.

I keep reading people who don't even understand how the coldheat works say that it won't work but I have yet to read someone say "I tried x and y happened".

The coldheat sucks as a soldering iron. I get that but most soldering irons below 30W do as well. E-cigs only use around 4W so it should have more than enough heat but you have to have the know how to get it out. People who can't even figure out how to solder with it are probably not the best for that job.



Now he keeps that coldheat on that tab a good amount of time but anyone who has worked with jacks like these will tell you that soldering these takes a good iron with alot of heat anything less than 30W will have you probably waiting longer than the guy in that vid.
 
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In reply to "Bagazo". Mine didn't have a heating element. I believe one side of the tip is POS and the other NEG, and when you touch it to your wire etc it is supposed to create the "heat" in between the points. Arcing maybe...don't know my unit never functioned at all.

Well that's like getting anything faulty. You should have taken it back and gotten an exchange because they obviously do work. They don't work by arcing. The tip heats up when a conductor completes the circuit and cools off really fast when the circuit is broken. The conductor being the pieces of metal that are to be soldered.

From the user's manual:
The patented Split-Tip™ combines unique material properties into two electrically insulated
electrodes that form part of an internal electrical circuit. When the tip’s two electrodes make
simultaneous contact with an electrically conductive material such as the work piece (wire
lead, terminal, solder, PCB pad, or other material), this circuit is completed and the highresistance
electrodes generate instantaneous heat at the tip. The heat is then rapidly transmitted
to the work piece to complete the quickest soldering joint possible.

Available here:
http://www.thinkgeek.com/files/ColdHeatManualST.pdf
 
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