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[GPC2012]

Oh....so you are calling her a Hobbit. If he's her baby brother, she isn't anything like him He wasn't like that before

No not a Hobbit Gollum isn't a hobbit, was similar before the ring did its thing to him. Well Angel was like a human till mods did their thing to her. lol
The baby brother is more a statement of severity and attitude.

 

[keelalagirl55]

No not a Hobbit Gollum isn't a hobbit, was similar before the ring did its thing to him. Well Angel was like a human till mods did their thing to her. lol
The baby brother is more a statement of severity and attitude.

Oh sweetie.....Gollum is a hobbit......a corrupted hobbit. He only got his name "Gollum" cause of the sounds he makes......he is just a corrupted Smeagol

 

[GPC2012]

Oh sweetie.....Gollum is a hobbit......a corrupted hobbit. He only got his name "Gollum" cause of the sounds he makes......he is just a corrupted Smeagol

You need to read the books. Gollum is as stated in the book a creature that was not unlike a hobbit before the ring affected him. Sure nuff. been a fan since Jr. high read them all several times.

 

[Shawn Hoefer]

Grats Angel.

Thanks Keela & Mattie & GV

Now I shall go pout.

 

[keelalagirl55]

All of those books were taken from letters or bits of writing from Tolken. It was his son who put them all together. Tolken Sr. calls him a Stoors Hobbit.......thus he's a hobbit

None of the Hobbit nor the LOTR completed books were completed BY Tolken himself. It wasn't till after his death that his son (who was with him through all of his writings and did much of his editing when he was still alive) took all the bits and pieces and fashioned the completed books. Much of what was written was from his own memory of his father telling the story bits and pieces. He had to fill in a lot of blanks and get the story to flow.....BUT Tolken wrote himself that Gollum was a Stoors Hobbit.

 

[GPC2012]

"I guess they were of hobbit-kind; akin to the fathers of the fathers of the Stoors."

quoted from tolkien

 

[keelalagirl55]

Have you read this book?

This gives a great deal of details about vague characters and events not detailed in the LOTR series

 

[Sunray]

Congrats angelphyre! ​

 

[tiggerrts]

Congrats Angel!!!

 

[angelphyre]

Wow! Thank you so much! I'm so excited! Woohoo! Think I'll do my happy dance...



Thanks to GV for the awesome contest and of course to our lovely helpers..you guys are the best! Now to go pick out a flavor to go with my pretty new shiny!

Oh and Cowboy, you know you're going to pay for the Hobbit comments, right?

 

[CcaT]

We got ourselves an old fashioned shire showdown here, folks! Two Tolkien geeks enter! One Tolkien geek leaves! Place your bets!

 

[GPC2012]

Wow! Thank you so much! I'm so excited! Woohoo! Think I'll do my happy dance...



Thanks to GV for the awesome contest and of course to our lovely helpers..you guys are the best! Now to go pick out a flavor to go with my pretty new shiny!

Oh and Cowboy, you know you're going to pay for the Hobbit comments, right?

Oh yeah

 

[RaceGun59]

 

[bwh79]

None of the Hobbit nor the LOTR completed books were completed BY Tolken himself. It wasn't till after his death that his son (who was with him through all of his writings and did much of his editing when he was still alive) took all the bits and pieces and fashioned the completed books.

Err...The Hobbit was published in 1937, the LOTR books in 1954 and 1955. Tolkien lived for nearly twenty years after the last was published, until his death in 1973. Source: [1], [2], [3], [4], [5]. Sure, there were plenty of other works compiled and published by his son Christopher after his death, but unless I'm reading this seriously wrong, he was very much alive when The Hobbit and LOTR were published...

 

[Maxedout]

Congratulations Angel!

 

[mac63]

Congrats Angel!!!

Thanks to all that make this happen!


Too early in the morning for popcorn here so I'll just have coffee to watch the Hobbit battle.

 

[keelalagirl55]

Err...The Hobbit was published in 1937, the LOTR books in 1954 and 1955. Tolkien lived for nearly twenty years after the last was published, until his death in 1973. Source: [1], [2], [3], [4], [5]. Sure, there were plenty of other works compiled and published by his son Christopher after his death, but unless I'm reading this seriously wrong, he was very much alive when The Hobbit and LOTR were published...

No, doubt your reading wrong...I am not linking to your links, but you are correct (though it doesn't change my stance on Gollum....based on the writings published in Unfinished Tales). After I had to leave, my error in publish dates dawned on me. There are still many unfinished works and many of the details about middle earth that didn't get into those books. Those were published later as a collection of his thoughts, notes, unpublished manuscripts, and such by Christopher. I don't recall off hand how many, outside of Unfinished Tales, Christopher had published after JRR's death. Christopher has noted that there are so many scattered notes that there are just some stories and pieces that will never come to light. The Silmarillion is another book that fits in with The Hobbit and LOTR books. I have yet to get that one and it is a prequel to the events in LOTR....and another that had to be put together by Christopher.

I'd be in 7th heaven for a time to just get 15 min with some of his notes that won't ever make it to books.

 

[Maxedout]

Sweet Dreams Everyone!

 

[Sir2fyablyNutz]

Good morning everyone

 

[Maxedout]

UGH! Good Morning I think!
I did get a couple hours of sleep.
Back is bad from changing out water heater.