Comfortable single coil RBA (advise please)

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Alien Traveler

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Above all I prize comfort in vaping, which means easy filling, easy disassembling (for coil rebuilding), no leaks even if I leave my tank on its side or upside down for a few days. I do not need clouds and subohming. I My current everyday setup is RG280 or RGM2 – shielded glass tanks (tough to break) with protank coils (easy to rebuild). Not a single leak for half a year. But I’d like something which is a bit bigger than 2.8 ml (as for RG280) and does not need separate coil bases (as for protank).

I have tried couple RBAs. A while ago I have bought on impulse (do not drink and buy) Fogger V4. Found out it needs two coils (too many for me). I have tried to build with single coil (plugging not needed holes with cotton), it was not bad, but it was a bit leaking. With two coils – too cloudy. And its tiny .... hole plugged with Philips screw! Just for refilling I needed a needle-nosed bottle and a screwdriver! Not what I call comfortable. Recently I have bought Erlkönigin clone for $5 – I was ordering other things, it was on sale and I decided to try it, it was practically for free anyway. And I liked it, but not so much that to make it my prime time device. Two drawbacks: still needed needle nosed bottle and rather tough to disassemble (because of its press-fitting o-rings).

So, I am ready to try another RBA and I am asking on advice.

It must have:

- Single coil
- Easy to refill and disassemble

Desirable features:

- Filling with eye-dropper bottle (not with needle-nosed one)
- Ability to change coil without pouring out liquid (desirable, but not required)
- Glass tank (I just do not know when to add juice if I do not see its level)

And what can you say about this one, does it fit description of what I need?
https://www.fasttech.com/products/3028/10009199/2050300
 

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Simple answer:

Kanger Subtank Mini using RBA head

Details:

Single coil
Glass tank (and comes with spare)
Very easy to build (raised posts with capture screws, no wrapping)
Very easy to fill (you could literally pour juice into it if you wanted)
Very easy to empty (remove base, pour it out)
Very easy to disassemble for washing
No tools necessary to fill or disassemble
Can take apart to rebuild while still full of juice
No leaks even if left on side overnight (no experience with upside down)
No need to sub-ohm, can build coils to your specs
1.2 ohm prebuilt coil heads available from mfg.
Comes with gaskets (mine came with black spare gaskets)
4.5ml capacity
22mm, so fits all 18650 mods, with no overhang
Large bore SS drip tip included
Very versatile in air flow control, coil ohms, drip tips, etc.
Hits as hard or as easy as you want

I could think of more positives, but don't have the time right now.

What more could one want?

I've been vaping for ~2 years, have tried dozens of different toppers... and this one is THE BEST and most versatile I have ever had...

period.
 
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The Squape R fits many of your requirements:

Very easy build deck designed for a single coil.
Great flavor and vapor production.
Adjustable airflow so you can adjust it to your vaping style.
Very few parts and easy to assemble/disassemble.
Can be rewicked/rebuilt without emptying tank.
No tools needed to refill.
Very high quality.
Borosilicate glass window.

Somethings you might not like:

It can be filled without a needle bottle, but a needle bottle is much easier/faster.
It's expensive.
 

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The Squape R fits many of your requirements:

Very easy build deck designed for a single coil.
Great flavor and vapor production.
Adjustable airflow so you can adjust it to your vaping style.
Very few parts and easy to assemble/disassemble.
Can be rewicked/rebuilt without emptying tank.
No tools needed to refill.
Very high quality.
Borosilicate glass window.

Somethings you might not like:

It can be filled without a needle bottle, but a needle bottle is much easier/faster.
It's expensive.
So true on every point. You won't find anything easier to build on. It's so simple and beautifully made and produces great flavor. I'm currently using the black nano tank which is awesome. It is expensive, but totally worth it if you're looking for something easy to use and maintain.
 

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i still dont understand why the acronym RBA exists, RDA= rebuildable dripping atomizer, RTA = rebuiltable tank atomizer. RBA = rebuildable ? atomizer? from reading your post I think you mean RTA. I was about to suggest some RDA's based on the thread title but it seems like you're looking for a tnak which i have no experience with.
 

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I have recently changed from FT RGM2 (recoiled with ... cotton) to a Kayfun V4 (Infinite Clone) also from FT SKU:2066200
For me, the RGM2 was exceptionally hard to beat in terms of convenience and flavour but the KF4 does it; BUT only because I was willing to put some work in up front!

The KF4 :
- Single coil YES ( 28AWG, 2.5mm diameter, 8 turns, 1.5ohms is the best)
- Easy to refill YES and disassemble YES

Desirable features:

- Filling with eye-dropper bottle (not with needle-nosed one) YES - with care
- Ability to change coil without pouring out liquid (desirable, but not required) YES - easy, a bit stiff to unscrew the coil, needs a screwdriver to act as a crowbar sometimes
- Glass tank (I just do not know when to add juice if I do not see its level) YES - 3 tanks, easy to see the level esp. with PC and bell tanks you get with Infinite clone.

Notes:
0. I had to work hard for 3 days to get to know the KF4 and fix two O rings to stop very slight leaking. I also had to fix the spring to get rid of the classic "wandering ohms" problem. I am so glad I did as every other tank I own is now either a fiddle to work with or mutes the flavour badly in comparison.
1. To get the airflow a bit more like the tight RGM2 draw I leave the KF4 airflow wide open and use a restrictive drip tip. I found that closing the KF4 airflow tends to make a rougher draw due to condensation build up.
2. I have to rewick every 2 tankfuls (with a 60/40 caramel juice).
3. Strangely, the KF4 needs about 5 toots after a rewick to come on song again. Not seen that on any other cotton kanthal builds.

And what can you say about this one, does it fit description of what I need?
https://www.fasttech.com/products/3028/10009199/2050300

I went for SKU: 2080500. It comes with a plastic tank but has spare O rings and you can get the glass tank separately (SKU 2050401 I think). It hasn't arrived yet but people on youtube seem to like the GTV2 and my old Taifun was good in its day.
EDIT: I was wrong: SKU 2080500 has just arrived and does come with a glass tank as well as plastic - albeit it's frosted glass and looks like plastic!
 
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For a single coil RTA the Lemo is a fantastic device, and the separate 510 adapter is great for catching any minor leaks while you learn to wick it properly. It has a glass tank and the fill hole is big enough to handle a dropper, although needle bottles are easier. You can't access the deck without draining the juice, but overall the Lemo is a great first RTA.

-Treeburner
 

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Thanks for advises. I appreciate it.

Special thanks on driving my attention on Kayfun V4 as a single coil RTA. I have seen pictures of its deck before, and seeing 4 screws I had decided it is a double coil thing, just as my unloved Fogger V4. Took a quick look on youtube and was amazed: it looks like it has an easiest build! So, for now Kayfun V4 is my first choice (unless I hear something unpleasant about it).

As for Subtank, I’d like to have it, it has both RTA deck and stock coil which is so easy to rebuild (it is practically the same coil as for Protank, just with a bigger chamber). But I’ve seen a lot of opinions on ECF that it is really suitable only for subohming and has no advantages (to say the least) at higher builds with tighter airflow.

I liked what I saw on the Web about Squape R, but I am not going to pay as much for a thing I am not sure I’ll be using (I am still not sold on RTA). And for this thing, I believe clones are unacceptable: they use some type of paint as an insulator instead of ceramics. Should not work in a long run.

And I still thinking about my formerly first choice (some reincarnation of Tyfun).

Will decide in a couple of days.
 
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The Lemo is a good atomizer, I own one, but to me the flavor isn't quite as good as the Squape and it doesn't match you're requirements as closely. However, eLeaf is releasing a Lemo 2 which has improved filling and airflow adjustment. I don't know much else about the Lemo 2, but it is authentic and inexpensive. Might be something else to consider.
 

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I've just written a note on my Taifun GT II which arrived today. It's very good for the price.

Thank you very much for reply and link, but I still have a few questions to you (I am lucky you have two devices I am interested
about).

Is it possible to change coil for GT II without draining it? Is it possible to fill it with eye-drop bottle?

And in your review of GT II you mentioned that “KF4 clone … in comparison with this GT II it was a nightmare to get working right”. Does it mean it was difficult to do for the first time, or it is difficult to do even after you have learned how to use it? From youtube videos it looks like the most difficult part (wicking) is really easy for KF4 (just push wicks down, not need to align them with channels).
 

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i still dont understand why the acronym RBA exists, RDA= rebuildable dripping atomizer, RTA = rebuiltable tank atomizer. RBA = rebuildable ? atomizer? from reading your post I think you mean RTA. I was about to suggest some RDA's based on the thread title but it seems like you're looking for a tnak which i have no experience with.


RBA is a catch all......rebuildable attomizer. All rta's are rba's, but not all rba's are rta's :p
 

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+1 on the sub tank mini. A plus is you can swap to an occ coil if you don't feel like building, and the occ coils are a breeze to rebuild as well.
Sent with one hand, the other is busy vaping.

But I have heard it is not really good at 1.2 -1.8 ohms (as I will use it) and that it is too airy for higher ohms.
 

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But I have heard it is not really good at 1.2 -1.8 ohms (as I will use it) and that it is too airy for higher ohms.


I've got my full sized sub tank using occ coils I built at 1.4 ohm. 10 wrap coils on 3mm bit using 26 gauge kanthal...... Performance is great.
I've got my sun tank mini using the rba section built at 1.1 ohm with a Clapton coil.... It also works great.
The occ coils are too airy for mouth to lung, but whoever told you they aren't good at that resistance range wasn't building them right.
The mini rba section....i can mouth to lung all day :p but it has enough airflow for good lung hits with airflow wide open if you desire
 
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