First - I hope no one minds, especially since this is "Rip's" commiserating thread, but I would like to say something about the person who won the GV Provari Contest . . .
Although "Pysche" has only been in ECF for a short time compared to most, I will vouch that she is one great Woman, especially one you would like "Rip" - she has an outstanding personality and who is extremely knowledgeable and straight forward - I would even say she is not only a friend, I would go so far to say she is "My Lil Sis" just Like "REDD" (She is one of Us and YOUR "Lil Sis" too now) . . . SO - Be Nice To Her

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(and some serious flirting and innuendo which gets tiresome to outsiders at best

)
Now
Don"t get me wrong - This is Just my Opinion . . . Not only do I still and will always "Like" GV and what Chris & Dano do for the ECF Community, especially given "Bad's" support toward's Me still . . . I personally don't think this has anything to do with Chris & Dano or GV as a supplier . . . We're all adults and that is how "Bad" treats everyone IMO, as long as you are not insulting anyone . . . Now with that said and understood . . .
BUT
WOW . . . Really - YA THINK ! ! ! (Matter of fact, I couldn't agree with "You" more - you can get away with saying/posting almost anything, that is if you "cow-tow" to one person's personal agenda or they "like" you) . . . AND - I Really Do like to hear/see people "flirt" with one another, particularly when they do it in a very suttle ways with
intelligent innuendo . . .
Now think about what it is like for someone like ME - a Gay Man who is hanging out in all these threads that have the same thing happening 24-7 . . . OH, wait - I better not say anything else about that here, except for one fact - WHY do you think I and a few others (thankfully) posted some of the stuff we did/do in some of these threads . . .
(A Big Thanks to one of those people - "REDD" for what she does & will still post
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My apologies for the rant - I'll step down off the "soapbox" . . .
OH - BTW:
John I'd say we were brothers - except my brothers are jerks and I don't like them

but your definitely a good friend
Yes, I remember your brothers' stories.......mine is an ......, too!!!
OKAY - I got 4 brothers in RL that should meet your brothers . . . "BIG HUGH EXTREMALY LARGE 'A-H" . . . AND - even if You were able to turn them inside-out they would still be
"BIG HUGH EXTREMALY LARGE 'A-H" . . . So much so - that each and everyone one of them need to use "Preparation H" for a moisturizer . . .
(Oops, 1's Dead who shouldn't be and 1 still alive that should be - So that's 3 right now, but still "A-H" ALL)