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I just received my ego kgo today. I've been vaping a bloog maxxfusion before this. My questions are as followed. How long will e-liquid stay useable? Does it get harmful over time? Can it cause abnormal side effects with age? My reason for asking, other than being a slight hypochondriac, is upon receiving this new device, my juice did not come today. I loaded up one of the v2 carts and a ce3xl, with two different juices from gourmet vapor that I bought april 2011. Upon vaping the vanilla gorilla flavor, it tasted actually slightly better than it had (thinking that might be the clearo), then upon vaping the other custom blend (creamy irish mint), i noticed I got super anxious, and nervous. I contacted the company, and they said the juice should still be good through August, but no one has given me a straight answer as to what happens after the juice sits for a while. This juice came with me on a road trip to colorado last summer, 30 days stored in not the "coolest" of conditions, and I guess my primary concern is can it become harmful, or does it actually get less potent with improper storage/age?
 

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I don't have a definitive answer .. and I don't have any liquid that old .. however, I did have a few bottles that were under some heat for just a few days and the taste change made me toss them just in case ..

Of course, I live by the When in Doubt, Toss it Out philosophy ..

That said, there is really no reason I have read that demands disposal .. the most common statement I have seen is 2 years from manufacture ..
 

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Well, I'm no chemist - but the nicotine will slowly break down over time due to exposure with oxygen in the air, and the PG/VG will decay over a two-year period. That funky change in taste/color has more to do with what is in the flavoring itself - see, some places use the same flavorings and aromatics that are used in foods - these "turn" pretty quickly. Some use different ones. That is probably why no one has answered your question yet - there are too many variables without knowing exactly how the juice was made, and what the expiration dates and lot numbers on the flavorings were, for example.
 

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my main question is can it be harmful, im not worried about taste, although out I've noticed much better flavor out of the ce3xl's than the v2 visions, but both of the flavor dies off quickly out of these... these just need to hold me over till friday. Haven't quit analogs yet, but I've only had two today so i'm hopeful, but i don't want to keel over and die over some old juice hah.
 

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Several of the vendors I've purchased from put a born on date on the bottles, followed by an expiration date of one year later. I know things do eventually start to break down, I saw a chart around here somewhere, but I believe it showed that the nic loses potency over time, which would not be harmful, per sec, you just wouldn't be getting as much as you thought you were. I'm really not sure if flavors go bad, I do know they can change over time significantly.

Would love to hear it if anyone has the actual science on them.
 

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Can you vape it? Yes. Is it harmful? Well, we have a bio-chemical solution that has changed color/odor/taste. I'm going to say toss it. In bio-chem, and chemistry in general, these are indicators of change. Changing from a solution that is known to be safe to ingest to an unknown status is bad, usually. I don't think you're going to get a solid answer here, unless someone does a study, or a biochemist stumbles on this. I think the best answer you're likely to receive is something along the lines of "better safe than sorry". I concur with that sentiment. There could be mold or bacteria that the heat isn't going to kill in it, for example.
 
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