Compatible Cartomizers & other Questions

[VaVaunt]

OK, have spent many hours online on ECF the last couple of days. Lots to learn here-and what a wonderful crowd of peeps too!
So, while still narrowing down my first major purchase, I'd love some help with compatibility on batts I currently use.
Have 3 batteries for njoy, readily available where I live. I love the taste in the cartos, but notice these are going to be a real pain-in-the-.... to clean, change liquid....
So, beings as their prices are exorbitant, can someone please point me into the right direction for refillable cartos that will properly fit?
Also, can I replace the poly-fiber (guessing it's poly) if I want to? Is it sold in sheet form? I've read it can be rinsed out, but would honestly enjoy changing it if it is possible.
Also, if I'm able to use new filler-fiber, would a cigarette rolling machine do me any good to get a nice, evenly wound-roll?
*Something of major importance to me: MUST BE American made products. please!

*One more thing. I tried to ask similar questions in the 'Ask an Expert' forum, but afterwards I cannot find where my post entered. This may be a duplicate, apologizing now if this ends up being the case.
Jacki

 

[dearme]

I'm no help to you about the NJoy cartos, but, as far as I am aware, ALL small ecigs are made in China. Also, I think, are all PVs with the proprietary batteries. I also believe there are a few larger ecigs with non-proprietary batteries that are made in China, ie ePower and Lava Tube and some others. Also, all, or at least most, of the wiring and electrical stuff in mods made in the US are made in China, as well as cartos etc available for purchase.

 

[VaVaunt]

TY Dearme. I didn't know this.
I guess the battery itself would not pose me a problem, being made in China; but for sure I'd like the cartomizers made here in the states. I don't want to end up smoking leftover Chinese drywall!
You've also got me thinking about the fiber-fill stuff. That would be even harder to ensure it was from the states, as it's just 'the stuffing,' not being sold separately in most cases...mmmm...
still need my questions answered, but great points for me to mull over

 

[brandontrjn]

To my knowledge all cartomizers are made in China as well. What you can get "Made in America" are juices, that's about it. There are mods made in America, but most of the parts are sourced from china.

You could possibly find poly-fill made in America but 90% of commercially available fibers are made over seas. You can most likely find poly fill made in Europe or South America.

The main US manufacturers make "advanced absorbent matrices" which are more expensive (this is one company: Tranquility Incontinence Products...The Home Caring Brand) They have a crappy website but are actually a multimillion dollar business (they make adult diapers mainly...) but they engineer all kinds of poly fills.

Anyway, Njoy uses a weird cartridge. I'm not sure if that's 510 compatible and I can't find it anywhere. If it is 510 compatible, you can order from Blu or vapeshot.

 

[tj99959]

People in the US would rather get a check from the Gov instead of getting a job and earning a paycheck. So good luck finding carto's made in the US.
No you can't rebuild a carto, but why would you want to? A good refillable carto only costs about a buck and a half.
Do yourself a favor and get one of the many mainstream PV's that are on the market. That way you can pay a lot less for a lot better quality.

 

[VaVaunt]

Brandon, than you for the link. Going to take a look at that.
tj, I fully plan on doing that, but having already purchased 3 batteries and chargers, would like to know how to re-suit what
I have currently. I'm looking into the pv's, just so much to read here, I haven't quite got the hang of what I'd really like just yet.
I do know it's going to have to look like a cigarette. I don't want the strangers out in public thinking I'm smoking crack. At home I don't care, but with such a limited knowledge of vaping out in the world, getting pulled over in traffic by a cop just for vaping is not my idea of a good time. And where I live the cops are militant.

 

[tj99959]

I do know it's going to have to look like a cigarette

That's a pretty normal mindset, but what you are going to find is that the more it looks like a normal cigarette, the worse the product will perform.

A lot of people that want the small PV's seem to like this one
http://smokelessimage.com/?a_aid=4df231b22bd0e
if you do choose to go the 808 rout, just make damn sure it is a KR808-D1 and not a D2

 

[dearme]

On the other hand, a lot of PVs, mostly mods, look more like medical inhalers than anything else.....and it seems to me you would be a lot less likely to be stopped if they saw you using one of those......

 

[Retriever]

There are several cigarette style ecigs that actually don't perform too bad. You might want to check out the Volt by Smokelessimage, or the Vapor 4 Life kits. While it is true that the batteries won't last as long, you will have a pcc that will charge a battery while you use the other one.

 

[randi.shinney]

I have heard some good things about some of the smaller pvs also. Sometimes when we are out and about a smaller one is better. As long as you are aware of the drawbacks and are expecting some limitations with them you shouldn't have any problems. I loved my smaller ones when I was out of the house....as long as I had a PCC!

 

[VaVaunt]

OK, since I have a few experts in here, I'll try and take advantage of your time and thought...
I've been looking at this, for in the house at least:
XL Riva SE Carto Kit | Sweet-Vapes E-Liquid
What do you think?
It doesn't help me with the NJoy batts and carts at the moment, but might help me to move to the next level, as tj has been mentioning.

edit: TY Retriever...as I was writing this you were suggesting the volt. I was just looking at it an hour ago. will check them out again

 

[dearme]

That is a very good starter kit. It has a large battery, 1100 mah, and it comes with cartos which is the easiest things to use. All you would have to buy beside the kit are eliquids (I suggest lots of sampler packs so you can find the flavors you like) and Drip Tips which are mostly used for aesthetic purposes and are also more comfortable on the end of a carto.

The only thing I have against it is that it uses proprietary batteries, but that's not a biggie. It will just cost you more to replace the battery than a non-proprietary battery.

 

[tj99959]

OK, since I have a few experts in here, I'll try and take advantage of your time and thought...
I've been looking at this, for in the house at least:
XL Riva SE Carto Kit | Sweet-Vapes E-Liquid
What do you think?
It doesn't help me with the NJoy batts and carts at the moment, but might help me to move to the next level, as tj has been mentioning.


edit: TY Retriever...as I was writing this you were suggesting the volt. I was just looking at it an hour ago. will check them out again

Now you are getting there!
That is a good starter kit with the right stuff
It also has 510 connection, so it is far more versitle.
Warn you tho, if you get that - you will never look at the little guys again.

add:
i always use a drip tip on a carto

 

[VaVaunt]

TY! So I can keep it all in one, findable thread of info, what is the difference between the two batts again? I'm sure I've read it, but finding info again amongst all these threads....
Will this model require a drip tip? Or can filling it less avoid that?

How does it compare to the Volt Retriever suggested-as far as batts?

Are either interchangeable with the NJoy batts, or am I shooting into space with that one?
edit: (***Took another look, I think not)

 

[mynameisrob]

The Riva is a solid PV and I think youd really like it. Like dearme said it does have proprietary batteries, but ifyour okay with that, then its not really an issue. The kGo is also another 3.7V PV like the Riva and works very well. It has an 1100mah battery as well so it lasts a long time before needing a recharge. Many people use an eGo, which is similar in price and size to the Riva and kGo, but it is 3.3-3.4V while the Rivas and kGo are 3.7V. Personally I prefer the 3.7V PVs alot more than the eGo. They provide alittle more "oomph" and they handle the lower resistnace attys and cartos alot better.
Another PV you should consider is the E-Power. Its 3.7V like the Riva and kGo, and is similar in size and price, but the main difference is that it uses non-proprietary batteries instead. I use a 14650 E-Power and love it. The batteries are 1050mah so they last a long time and Iget avg at least a full day on one battery. Everything is replaceable on the E-Power too which I really liked bc its cheaper to maintain. With the proprietary battery PVs like the eGo/Riva/kGo, if your switch fails, you have to replace the whole unit, If you need a new battery, you have to replace the whole unit, etc. Thats because the tube, battery, and switch are all one piece so if one part breaks or needs to be replaced, you have no choice but to replace the whole unit. With the E-Power, the tube, battery, and switch are all seperate and can be bought individually. If my switch fails, I can buy just a switch fr under $10 and keep using my existing tube and battery. Also E-Power batteries cost $4-5 bucks while eGo/kGo/Riva batteries cost $14-20, and the E-Power batts last longer before they need to be replaced.
I would def consider the E-Power as an option as well, but in the end I think youd be really happy with the E-Power, Riva, or kGo bc their all good PVs.

 

[mynameisrob]

Proprietary battery PVs have the battery permanently in-cased in the unit.
Non-proprietary battery PVs have a battery that is removable and can be swapped out, like how you would change batteries on a flashlight

 

[dearme]

I'm not that familiar with slim ecigs as I skipped that step and went right to TOL mods, but most slim ecigs have a battery in the 180mah range. I think I read that there was an exception with a 300mah battery, but don't remember which one that was. You can generally figure on 1 hr of moderate vaper per 100mah.

The smaller ecigs do not allow for much customization of bits and pieces, and everything has to be SR (Standard Resistance) or they will ruin your battery. Standard 510 threading on bit and pieces will fit all 510 models. I don't know what threading the nJoy has, but I don't think it's 510.

 

[VaVaunt]

Now I get it-understand the battery thing perfectly. Thanks to both of you on this. Also, after some searching, I did find the 4081 carto here:
Electronic Cigarette Cartomizers | Joye 510 | KR808D-1 | DSE 801

Here is main website link:
ECig Super Store | Compare Prices On Ecig Starter Kits

And post here now for future thread readers. These will keep me in backup...

So, I have decided after looking at them for days, taking into account all said here, I'm going to go ahead with the Volt that TJ and Retriever mentioned for out on the road, and the Riva after all. I looked at the E-Power, and when I get a chance to try the (Riva)
drag, I'll see if I like it or not. Hey, I figure it's a no lose situation. If I don't, I'll just post it up on the 'pay it forward' thread I found here, and then try Rob's suggestion with the E-Power.

Thank Goodness!!! Finally-a decision!

...did I already mention you guys are awesome? You Are, You Are!

Now-Onto the juices!!!!

 

[dearme]

Both are good choices. Congratulations on making a decision, always the first step......LOL

 

[LavaTubeVVUser]

Im trying to figure out what the best ohms is to vape at 6v