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[GOMuniEsq]

If a person gave your body to any stranger he met on the way, you would be angry.
Why then do you feel no shame in handing over your mind to be confused and mystified by anyone who tries to persuade you for his own advantage?
Wisdom 16:2-3, The Good Book, A. C. Grayling

 

[Dougiestyle]

Hate that word “sheeple”. Everyone seems to think it’s other people who are the sheeple but not them. They’re usually wrong. All people are vulnerable to manipulation. Thinking one is not makes a person more vulnerable rather than less.

Are you familiar with MGTOW? As a skeptical observer of society, a self-made, debt-free entrepreneur. I own the right to call a large majority of people sheeple, like it or not.

MGTOW - Men Going Their Own Way - is a statement of self-ownership, where the modern man preserves and protects his own sovereignty above all else. It is the manifestation of one word: "No". Ejecting silly preconceptions and cultural definitions of what a man is. Looking to no one else for social cues. Refusing to bow, serve and kneel for the opportunity to be treated like a disposable utility. And, living according to his own best interests in a world which would rather he didn't.

In other words . . . common sense for men.

sov·er·eign·ty
ˈsäv(ə)rən(t)ē/
Noun. Meaning: Supreme power or authority. Autonomy, independence, self-government, self-rule, self-determination, freedom. Self-governing.

 

[bombastinator]

Are you familiar with MGTOW? As a skeptical observer of society, a self-made, debt-free entrepreneur. I own the right to call a large majority of people sheeple, like it or not.

MGTOW - Men Going Their Own Way - is a statement of self-ownership, where the modern man preserves and protects his own sovereignty above all else. It is the manifestation of one word: "No". Ejecting silly preconceptions and cultural definitions of what a man is. Looking to no one else for social cues. Refusing to bow, serve and kneel for the opportunity to be treated like a disposable utility. And, living according to his own best interests in a world which would rather he didn't.

In other words . . . common sense for men.

sov·er·eign·ty
ˈsäv(ə)rən(t)ē/
Noun. Meaning: Supreme power or authority. Autonomy, independence, self-government, self-rule, self-determination, freedom. Self-governing.

Lol. I didn’t say they weren’t. Heck the Bible says people are sheep. I’m just saying you’re a person. I said thinking you’re an exception is likely a mistake. You think you can’t be manipulated by experts? People who are every bit as good at what they do as what you do except THEIR specialty is doing what you say can’t be done to you? That doesn’t make it harder for them it makes it easier.

Also it’s not an “earnable” right. Exceptionalism is bunk. Always has been. Different people are good at different things. We’re all limited by lifespan, by experience, by resources, by sensory input, etc...
Exceptionalism is the concept that “I did well so I am intrinsically better and have more value”.
Generally when looked at critically what is more important than ability is luck, resources, and perseverance. Lots of people make out that it was something else. It almost never actually is though. This is a major reason the very rich push exceptionalism so very hard. They are almost always born advantaged. Not by ability or genetics but by superior inherited finances. Superior nutrition, superior opportunities, superior education. All are bought by inherited wealth.

It’s generally merely an excuse to treat other people badly.

 

[stols001]

@Dougiestyle if you needed THAT post to explain yourself... You don't got it, I'm afraid. LOL. I'm sorry to disagree with you "Man going your own way" but I actually OWN one of them, and he can do almost ANYTHING....

Except perhaps read that post without a LOLOLOLOLOL.

Men who go their own way just DO it, they don't LABEL it. They're busy doing stuff and not caring.

Don't got time for labels.

Also, if you think someone is a sheeple, I'd also suggest getting to know them a bit first. You might be surprised.

Anna

 

[Dougiestyle]

I didn't say there aren't exceptions to the rule. Yes, manipulators can and will manipulate. Too many in our society are oblivious to anything other than their own self-absorbed perspective and wants. I do my best to maintain an independent, educated and skeptical perspective of people. I try to do it with humility. I try to be aware that we all have our individual strengths and weaknesses. I have an uncle, though, who is a leach to society. He has never produced a single tangible benefit to this world... EVER! He was a professional student for almost a decade and earned no degree. He has every government and social benefit at his fingertips and uses them in excess. He does not work. He does not pay taxes. He is led by his own ideology and the programs that he depends on. I use him as an example, because the day that the social engineers decide to abolish his ability to lounge and live his impulsive life, he will scream that it is unjust... Just like the rest of the sheeple.

BTW, Anna @stols001 , I live by no definition other than "A Man". I lived in a box, too, once upon a time, hon. I choose to live my life to offer my best for the betterment of mankind. I treat people accordingly. The principle of "Do no harm, but take no BS" is a motto I claim. I'm sorry you disagree with my stance as a sovereign man. The gynocentric manipulation of societal views allows you to declare your disagreement, and that's fine with me. It causes me no direct harm. PS I don't NEED that post to define who I am. It just simplified the definition of a principle I adopted.

 

[stols001]

. The gynocentric manipulation of societal views allows you to declare your disagreement, and that's fine with me. It causes me no direct harm.

So I take it your degree was not in philosophy then?

You know "A Man" would never claim a woman could express her viewpoint because society is gynocentric.

Society these days, if I had to label it, would be more schizophrenic than anything else. But, thank you very much for allowing me to express myself as a vagina, that's rather good of you.

I happen to think that men and women are pretty equal. What I disagree with is your perspective on your life.

So you once lived in a box and now you're solid, good for you. My husband once lived in a dumpster (only it was a carpet remnant dumpster, pretty smart.) And if you met, he probably wouldn't need to boast about it as to how his life has changed. My husband, who pulverized 2 vertebrae in his neck at the age of 18 and had (at the time) experimental surgery to live works with his hands. He was an engineer and is now doing and making other things. He's got talent. As a kid, he dammed up a river so well, Game and Wildlife found out about it and made him remove the dam.

He has done more and made more of his life than most people I know. He didn't need to beg for food because he was homeless in Appalachia he hunted.

But, he also did things like when we were living in Baltimore, gently coax the street's drunk out of his lawn where he passed out, and into the house. He would talk to him (drunk or sober) he helped him when NO one else would help him, because he understood drunk and sober. As his younger and less wise spouse, I would be like, "Why are you helping that guy, he's hopeless and worthless."

When my husband went back to visit family a few years later, that guy was sober and HAPPY. He sat there for hours, thanking my husband for planting the seed when no one else bothered or believed he could change, even his wife.

We've helped a lot of family members stop being leeches. Maybe you should send your uncle OUR way since you consider him worthless. I'm pretty sure there may be SOMETHING going on where he might respond to a different approach not your disdainful manliness.

I'm happy your an independent Renaissance man who made money.

That doesn't seem to help you learn to teach a man to fish. I am currently making more than I ever have in my life, but I spent decades toiling with folks, because I love helping them, for pretty much a pittance.

Really, the money does help but it doesn't add to the joy of MY experience.

The very act of thinking yourself "better' than others makes your character worse. I know. I've been there too, but it has been a LONG time.

My vagina thanks you for this post.

Anna

 

[GOMuniEsq]

Regardless of how it is labeled, living by the principle of Self-Reliance is an honorable one. Like that article of the same name by Emerson. And men's rights activism is a noble pursuit in today's society that tears down traditional gender norms. But we try to avoid speaking of politics here.

 

[stols001]

I think self-reliance is a good thing too,

Maybe we should put all our kids out on ledges in the snow, so they can practice it.

Also, maybe we should remember we ALL came from SOMEWHERE, but regardless, past a certain point we are ALL responsible for our own decisions, and we reap the rewards thereof.

I happen to believe that there should be a floor for our society, and the fact that certain people will abuse it is a price we have to PAY for that floor. Of course there are people doing so but I'm fairly certain that may be an illness in and of itself, and can be fixed. It's called an entitlement mentality and you can fix it. Not to mention raise your own KIDS right.

LOL I will never forget the day I had my BIL living with us and he never really had parenting. He and my kid made a mess, and the 25 year old was the one that had the giant meltdown when I made them empty and fill the dishwasher. My kid just quietly did it. My BIL "babysat" my kid but I knew the whole time it was the other way around.

Now totally self sufficient and a happy human being, but it was hard work getting there.

We should love other people in this way, and I don't think that is a political statement at all. It's a philosophical one.

Anna

 

[classwife]

sigh...

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