Condensation in my tank?

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bloodkaiser

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I have a brand new Kanger EVOD setup. I just noticed that I have some condensation buildup on my driptip and it doesn't go away unless i clean it, also I am getting some on my battery. What could be the problem of all this? Oh and sometimes I get that gargling noise, what does that mean? The tank is completely full and didn't get any juice in the middle when filling.

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bloodkaiser

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Right now I removed the coil head, cleaned it with a paper towel and blowed till it was clear. I re installed the coil assuring the rubber grommet was correctly placed. I vaped a while and I removed my battery and noticed some juice. I observed it some more, and now I wonder... maybe its not leaking but its just condensation from the vape getting in the air holes? I am new to vaping, and I had seen a youtube video where the guy points out that not clearing the tank of smoke is a beginner move. What are the consequences of getting juice on your battery? Will it kill it?


edit: I think its probably leaking cuz I just keep getting that tiny bit of juice in my battery....
 
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Sounds likes its leaking a bit, won't hurt the battery If it's a manual since its sealed. Getting a bit of juice on the contact is normal as most tanks either leak or sweat a bit.

Sometimes we just have to toss The device and use a new one, I've only had to do this once in 9 months. Hope u have a few spares.

Remember backups for your backups are your friends.
 

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I have a brand new Kanger EVOD setup. I just noticed that I have some condensation buildup on my driptip and it doesn't go away unless i clean it, also I am getting some on my battery. What could be the problem of all this? Oh and sometimes I get that gargling noise, what does that mean? The tank is completely full and didn't get any juice in the middle when filling.

Okay, so lets start here. Congrats on the new Kanger setup! The condensation INSIDE the clearo is not a problem, however the juice on the battery is. The EVOD clearos tend to have this problem, and it could also be the source of your gurgling noise. Lets get into the diagnosis ... The gurgling noise is because there is liquid somewhere in the airflow path. It could be the liquid on the battery (more about this in a bit), or it could be liquid in the tube. There are a couple of tricks to clearing liquid from the tube, the first is a quick flick or two of the wrist, the force of the flick will cause the liquid to exit the tube through the drip tip. The second method is to use a pipe cleaner or rolled up napkin to push down into the tube from the drip tip and soak up any liquid in it. The third method is blowing through it, but I will cover that in a different part of this reply.

Now lets talk about the liquid on the battery. If it is inside the 510 connector, then this is caused by liquid exiting the tank through the airflow holes in the base of the EVOD, or the coil is not fully seated in the base and liquid is seeping out around it. Now, what is causing it is the real question. The first and most obvious check would be to ensure that the coil is seated properly. If there is still liquid leaking, then it means that the juice is flooding the coil and getting out through the airflow holes below it. This is a bit harder problem to fix, as it is generally caused by either juice that is too thin and just runs straight through, OR there is not enough wicking to sufficiently keep the coil moist but not flooded. If this is the problem, then you will need some additional silica wick and will have to experiment with how much you need to add to keep it from happening. Google this and you will find videos and other posts that can help here.

Right now I removed the coil head, cleaned it with a paper towel and blowed till it was clear. I re installed the coil assuring the rubber grommet was correctly placed. I vaped a while and I removed my battery and noticed some juice. I observed it some more, and now I wonder... maybe its not leaking but its just condensation from the vape getting in the air holes? I am new to vaping, and I had seen a youtube video where the guy points out that not clearing the tank of smoke is a beginner move. What are the consequences of getting juice on your battery? Will it kill it?

edit: I think its probably leaking cuz I just keep getting that tiny bit of juice in my battery....

Okay, sounds like you were quite thorough with your cleaning, that is a pretty good method that will serve you well with almost any clearo. So as you already figured out, it is leaking, but I already covered that, so moving on to your question. YES this can kill a battery!

Sounds likes its leaking a bit, won't hurt the battery If it's a manual since its sealed. Getting a bit of juice on the contact is normal as most tanks either leak or sweat a bit.

Sometimes we just have to toss The device and use a new one, I've only had to do this once in 9 months. Hope u have a few spares.

Remember backups for your backups are your friends.

Okay, Talyon says it won't hurt the battery because it is sealed. This is generally accepted, but not exactly accurate. Liquid on battery contacts is NEVER a good thing. On automatic batteries, there has to be an airflow path for the battery to activate, juice getting in there will kill a battery very quickly. Even on manual batteries, it can reduce the life or kill the battery completely (rare, but can happen).

Electricity will take the shortest path, and if that path happens to be the liquid that is bridging the positive and negative battery terminals, then it will bypass the circuit it should take across the coil. This will result in your coil not functioning properly, while putting strain on the battery itself. Worse, if the liquid (usually over time) seeps through the insulator between the positive and negate terminals, and gets down into the battery, it can bypass the firing switch, bridge the contacts, and cause the battery to short out internally and potentially catch fire or explode. This may be a real risk, depending on the internal design of your mod.

As for the juice on the contact being normal ... not if the tank/clearo is working properly. However, it's normal enough that it is accounted for in the manufacturing of batteries, so a little juice won't usually kill it immediately. Remember, proper maintenance is crucial for batteries to ensure they work safely.

Once you have a tank that does not leak much, if you wipe down the battery connector every time you fill your clearo, and every time it starts to gurgle, you should be okay. Just make sure that you also wipe down the threads on the tank too, otherwise you are just re-introducing liquid to the battery connector.

HTH!
 

Three5Nines

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Completely normal. What happens is the air in the tank contracts and expands with temperature and barometric pressure, which forces a small amount of juice out with every cycle. I put my BCCs in a sling when I fill them up. It pulls the excess juice off of the head, and clears out the air channel.
My sling is a belt loop pouch for a small flashlight on a lanyard. I put my BCC in the pouch top down and swing away for a few seconds.
I also started storing/carrying them upside down, and I have had to leaking issues since.
 

bloodkaiser

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Okay, so lets start here. Congrats on the new Kanger setup! The condensation INSIDE the clearo is not a problem, however the juice on the battery is. The EVOD clearos tend to have this problem, and it could also be the source of your gurgling noise. Lets get into the diagnosis ... The gurgling noise is because there is liquid somewhere in the airflow path. It could be the liquid on the battery (more about this in a bit), or it could be liquid in the tube. There are a couple of tricks to clearing liquid from the tube, the first is a quick flick or two of the wrist, the force of the flick will cause the liquid to exit the tube through the drip tip. The second method is to use a pipe cleaner or rolled up napkin to push down into the tube from the drip tip and soak up any liquid in it. The third method is blowing through it, but I will cover that in a different part of this reply.

Now lets talk about the liquid on the battery. If it is inside the 510 connector, then this is caused by liquid exiting the tank through the airflow holes in the base of the EVOD, or the coil is not fully seated in the base and liquid is seeping out around it. Now, what is causing it is the real question. The first and most obvious check would be to ensure that the coil is seated properly. If there is still liquid leaking, then it means that the juice is flooding the coil and getting out through the airflow holes below it. This is a bit harder problem to fix, as it is generally caused by either juice that is too thin and just runs straight through, OR there is not enough wicking to sufficiently keep the coil moist but not flooded. If this is the problem, then you will need some additional silica wick and will have to experiment with how much you need to add to keep it from happening. Google this and you will find videos and other posts that can help here.



Okay, sounds like you were quite thorough with your cleaning, that is a pretty good method that will serve you well with almost any clearo. So as you already figured out, it is leaking, but I already covered that, so moving on to your question. YES this can kill a battery!



Okay, Talyon says it won't hurt the battery because it is sealed. This is generally accepted, but not exactly accurate. Liquid on battery contacts is NEVER a good thing. On automatic batteries, there has to be an airflow path for the battery to activate, juice getting in there will kill a battery very quickly. Even on manual batteries, it can reduce the life or kill the battery completely (rare, but can happen).

Electricity will take the shortest path, and if that path happens to be the liquid that is bridging the positive and negative battery terminals, then it will bypass the circuit it should take across the coil. This will result in your coil not functioning properly, while putting strain on the battery itself. Worse, if the liquid (usually over time) seeps through the insulator between the positive and negate terminals, and gets down into the battery, it can bypass the firing switch, bridge the contacts, and cause the battery to short out internally and potentially catch fire or explode. This may be a real risk, depending on the internal design of your mod.

As for the juice on the contact being normal ... not if the tank/clearo is working properly. However, it's normal enough that it is accounted for in the manufacturing of batteries, so a little juice won't usually kill it immediately. Remember, proper maintenance is crucial for batteries to ensure they work safely.

Once you have a tank that does not leak much, if you wipe down the battery connector every time you fill your clearo, and every time it starts to gurgle, you should be okay. Just make sure that you also wipe down the threads on the tank too, otherwise you are just re-introducing liquid to the battery connector.

HTH!



Damn nice reply! Very helpful thank you! I haven't figured out the source of my problem but after checking everything and then reading your post my last option would be checking the coil, it being seated properly. I don't know why I didn't think about that but I'll try that in a while, tho I am sure it is seated properly because If not it would leak a lot! All I am getting is a little amount of juice, yet if I keep on with my day like that it would probable get worse.

I have noticed also that by draws I sometimes don't get the gargling and sometimes I do, could it be also related on how hard I pull? Do you fire it on just before pulling on it? Or should I pull and then fire it?


nice to have this info, im getting evod soon...thx


~n3o~

Hey I love my Evod! Even if I am having my leaking issue, it is most likely just a coil problem! Have fun with your Evod : )!
 
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