Ok I have had a blu for a while, I know its junk but love vaping over analogs looking for a APV starter kit that has all I need to get started yet can noyt seem yo find one.
confused on APV's
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There are kits galore (unmentioned sister in GoldFinger?), check out the suppliers here.
What have you looked at?
What are you looking for? Small/big size, battery life, tank size, variable?
What have you looked at?
What are you looking for? Small/big size, battery life, tank size, variable?
looked at joyetech smoketech I have decided that I am a heavy vape type person really like the ego but after diff reviews I am a little leery want something with good attie life and heavy vape
Okay...so that's referring mostly to the "juice delivery system"...the atomizer/tank/cartomizer thing. Not the battery unit itself. You need to look at the volts your battery produces, however...so you can determine what ohm (resistance) you should get for your atomizer/cartomizer/tank. If you do get an eGo...it's a fine solid device with a long lasting battery (depends on what mAh you get...the bigger the mAh number, the longer it'll last) but bear in mind a non VV eGo will run voltage at about 3.4 volts. Which is fine...but BEST if you low a lower ohm cartomizer (but not below 1.5ohm). Probably the 1.5ohm would be about right for you. Personally, I like 2ohm, but I vape menthol so I like a cooler vape. Just find something in the 1.5 to 2 ohm range and it should produce the watts you need for the "heavy vape" you are looking for. OR...you can get a variable voltage type like the eGo Twist or Vision Spinner. Those you can dial the voltage where you want it...so if you want to vape higher voltage you can use standard or higher resistance atomizers. Depends on your juice, too, of course. Some do better a bit lower volt/resistance/watt and some do better with higher levels.
To get your feet wet transitioning from the Blu...probably might do best with the variable voltage option like the Twist or Spinner. Once you figure out what watts you prefer...you can decide if you "need" VV, or if you would be just as happy with a mechanical or the 3.4 regulated battery devices. Good luck!
To get your feet wet transitioning from the Blu...probably might do best with the variable voltage option like the Twist or Spinner. Once you figure out what watts you prefer...you can decide if you "need" VV, or if you would be just as happy with a mechanical or the 3.4 regulated battery devices. Good luck!
I agree with fourthrok. Getting started, you may want to take it a little slow. I own a Twist and really liked it when I first got it. The variable voltage gave me a chance to try different juices at different volts. This was good, because some juices respond better with higher volts than others. I was able to get most of a day of vaping out of my 1100mha twist. Your mileage may vary, of course.
Of course, what do you do when your PV is charging? You use your backup PV! That means you'll want a good backup to use while charging. This means you'll want to get 2 Twists or Spinners. That's probably my recommendation for a low budget set up.
There are other options, using replaceable, rechargeable batteries. The mack daddy battery is the 18650. This has twice the capacity of the Twist/Spinners. Most people get a solid 24 hours of vaping off these.
One of the entry level items using this battery is the Gripper. This uses the 18650 batteries. They cost about $50 and will use any 510 gear. Variable Volt Gripper, Silver
You'd need 2 batteries and a charger, sold separately.
If you have a larger budget you may consider a Provari (I own one of these also). However, getting set up with one of these will cost you about 200$ for the unit, batteries and charger.
Having a better idea of your budget would help us make recommendations better suited to what you want.
Of course, we are only talking about the battery/power delivery device. You'll also need good juice and a juice delivery system. I'm partial to carto/tanks. These are a tank, with a cartomizer inside. The cartomizers are replaceable (2-4$) and work well, when submerged in juice.
Here's an example: Artemas Locking 510 DCT, Clear
There are lots of tanks. Most tanks are a form of plastic. These will work for most all juices, unless you like cinnamon or citrus juices. These sorts of juices can crack the tank over time due to the chemicals in them.
There are also Pyrex glass tanks. Pyrex is very durable and very hard to break. There are at least 2 good vendors for these: Phiniac (expensive) IBTanked (less expensive).
So, what budget do you have?
What juice delivery systems are you a fan of?
Of course, what do you do when your PV is charging? You use your backup PV! That means you'll want a good backup to use while charging. This means you'll want to get 2 Twists or Spinners. That's probably my recommendation for a low budget set up.
There are other options, using replaceable, rechargeable batteries. The mack daddy battery is the 18650. This has twice the capacity of the Twist/Spinners. Most people get a solid 24 hours of vaping off these.
One of the entry level items using this battery is the Gripper. This uses the 18650 batteries. They cost about $50 and will use any 510 gear. Variable Volt Gripper, Silver
You'd need 2 batteries and a charger, sold separately.
If you have a larger budget you may consider a Provari (I own one of these also). However, getting set up with one of these will cost you about 200$ for the unit, batteries and charger.
Having a better idea of your budget would help us make recommendations better suited to what you want.
Of course, we are only talking about the battery/power delivery device. You'll also need good juice and a juice delivery system. I'm partial to carto/tanks. These are a tank, with a cartomizer inside. The cartomizers are replaceable (2-4$) and work well, when submerged in juice.
Here's an example: Artemas Locking 510 DCT, Clear
There are lots of tanks. Most tanks are a form of plastic. These will work for most all juices, unless you like cinnamon or citrus juices. These sorts of juices can crack the tank over time due to the chemicals in them.
There are also Pyrex glass tanks. Pyrex is very durable and very hard to break. There are at least 2 good vendors for these: Phiniac (expensive) IBTanked (less expensive).
So, what budget do you have?
What juice delivery systems are you a fan of?
My budget is 100 to 150 dollars including buying some E-liquid been looking at an ego t 1100 kit but will look at the twist now
If you do some research there is a great device that it inexpensive especially to replace the batts. It is vv/vw and only $30 its a VAMO maybe a little on the advanced side but you could get caught up to speed watching some videos on youtube.
Get a ego to start out. A ego twist is more advance. Ive gone to the apv mods. I like the Zmax. You can get the VAMO for under $50.
If you're spending 50 dollars on a mod, you might as well get a vamo so you get variable power too. You can get those for $49, maybe cheaper. And if you want a tank that is cheap and will hold up to all your juices, polypropylene is probably the most economical choice. Polycarbonate tanks are the ones that can crack.
A huge plus of the Twist and Spinner,variable voltage or variable wattage in general really, is the flexibility it allows you with your juice delivery device. With fixed voltage it is necessary to match the resistance of the "JDD" to the fixed voltage to allow that satisfactory vape.
With vv/vw, we can change the battery output to match. There is often a bit of deviation from the marked or advertized resistance of cartomizers,atomizers,etc. Also, resistance can and does change over the usable life of these things. With the Twist, Spinner or any variable output capability device we can adjust to those deviations.It isn't necessarily "needed" it just helps in customizing our vape experience.
With vv/vw, we can change the battery output to match. There is often a bit of deviation from the marked or advertized resistance of cartomizers,atomizers,etc. Also, resistance can and does change over the usable life of these things. With the Twist, Spinner or any variable output capability device we can adjust to those deviations.It isn't necessarily "needed" it just helps in customizing our vape experience.
Just remember...the battery device (be it eGo, Spinner, Vamo or Provari) will only as good in producing a satisfying vape as the delivery system that is on it! That is the atomizer...the thing that heats the e-juice so that you can vape it.
Stuff in your target price range you may find appealing:
Vamo
Innokin iTaste MVP
Twist
Spinner
Gripper
Also, be sure to check out - http://.........blogspot.com/ there is a great deal on the iTaste MVP on there from smartvapes.
Bookmark that page and check in daily for great vaping deals.
Vamo
Innokin iTaste MVP
Twist
Spinner
Gripper
Also, be sure to check out - http://.........blogspot.com/ there is a great deal on the iTaste MVP on there from smartvapes.
Bookmark that page and check in daily for great vaping deals.
I started with the humble 510 starter set from the drugstore...a few days later I upgraded to the nano clearomizers and ditched cartomizers for good. A week later I upgraded to an ego and vivi novas. then I got an ego CTwist and an ego pass-through. A few days after that I bought an additional 13 ejuices to add to the five or so I already had...Oh, and my SS Vamo, batteries, (and additional spare SS Vamo) and some tanks, rebuildable clearomizers and other assorted goodies should be landing in my mailbox by the end of the week.
...yeah I'm glad I started off slow. If I'd jumped into this hobby feet first, I'd really be in trouble.
...yeah I'm glad I started off slow. If I'd jumped into this hobby feet first, I'd really be in trouble.
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If you want to use clearos, carts or a nova, I'd get a twist. If you plan to use a carto tank, Id get a VAMO, or a lava tube. I like carto tanks so I use a Zmax
Get the Vamo, I quickly outgrew my ego style batteries and never touch them. With the Vamo and a good tank system you can vape like a madman all day. The egos are good for using as a pass-through if you are at home waiting for batteries to recharge.
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