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i would go with the vamo, cost less and has been around much longer and is known to last,the evic is just to gimmicky and i have the feeling wont last.
Yeah it does... just tried it at 15 watts... bubblegum flavour at 15 watts.. not good... *gak* Going to get some more sleep been fun tonight.
Syl
Syl
Just because *some* called it a glorified puff counter, or just because it has a puff counter doesn't mean that it's not a really good PV. As for the price, a $104 price-tag is a very good price for the first -smart PV- in the world. Not mentioning the sleek design (unlike the VAMO) and the real LCD screen (which is a first in PVs too).
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1. Even BMW does recalls on certain production batches of their cars every now and then. Is a "recall" really a bad thing?
To me, it means the manufacturer cares about the quality of their product and the satisfaction of their customers.
2. How many completely defective VAMOs are there?
3. Did/would any VAMO or VAMO-knockoff manufacturers EVER announce a recall and exchange units for free? (Try calling and testing the quality of customer service, or if anyone would pickup at all)
4. How about a firmware update being released for the eVic in a month of releasing it? Doesn't this count?
5. How about another firmware version expected to be released within a month? This doesn't count either?
Give me some valid reasons and I'll admit it's a "glorified" PV other than "he said and she said" and I'll probably agree with you. Otherwise, maybe "he or she" didn't do the device justice and had over-expectations! To me, the eVic is just as good as the provari (I'll trade 1 volt difference to the good looks of the eVic)
I am not affiliated with Joytech or Ovale, but I've been advised on these forums to keep away from the eVic. I followed my intuition and ordered one and I'm GLAD I DID!
To the OP: I think the eVic is worth every penny, and since you're already thinking about it. GO FOR IT! It's a really good performing, good looking PV with upgradable firmware and an analysis software, and it's worth the investment.
EDIT: In my world, I follow common sense, not celebrities.
When Joyetech gets the firmware tidied up I might consider getting one. Right now, my opinion favors the Vamo simply because I own one. It's really just as simple as that.
If I were buying the device based on looks and feature set... I would buy the eVic... It does look pretty dang nice, I must admit...
Functionality, on the other hand, it has proven to be a bit quirky... Now, you could make the claim that the folks doing the more technical reviews aren't using their oscilloscopes correctly, but I really don't think that's the case...
The eVic has one major flaw, IMO... It cuts off at 11W, or 5V, whichever comes first... Kinda makes sense here right? The 5V limitation is a major factor for those using 3+ Ohm cartos / attys... From both the tasteyourjuice and advanced ecig reviews (Both using o-scopes - and correctly I might add) found that with a 3 Ohm cartomizer, the eVic limits itself to 8.3W, which would put it around 5V output voltage, but it's really only running at around 4.8V... Incidentally, that lack of accuracy in voltage yields a power output of around 7.7W as opposed to 8.3W "as advertised" by the eVic control circuit. Perhaps this is a safety feature, but IMO that 5V limitation is HUGE... I'm sure there are plenty of vapers out there who would like to operate their 3 Ohm cartos a bit warmer than 8.3W, and certainly warmer than 7.7W if you consider the drop in actual voltage vs. what it should be operating at.
So between the two, I would go with the Vamo, as it has proven to be compatible with a wider array of attys / cartos, both low and high resistance, and can reach 12W output with stacked 18350's on a 3ohm coil @ 6V... That's a pretty warm vape, and should satisfy nearly all users.
Now, if all you're using are 2.0-2.5 Ohm coils in your cartos/attys, then maybe the eVic will work for you... But, for me, I want a device I can put any attachment I want on it, and be able to get the results I'm looking for, even if that attachment uses a coil that's 3 Ohms...
Functionality, on the other hand, it has proven to be a bit quirky... Now, you could make the claim that the folks doing the more technical reviews aren't using their oscilloscopes correctly, but I really don't think that's the case...
The eVic has one major flaw, IMO... It cuts off at 11W, or 5V, whichever comes first... Kinda makes sense here right? The 5V limitation is a major factor for those using 3+ Ohm cartos / attys... From both the tasteyourjuice and advanced ecig reviews (Both using o-scopes - and correctly I might add) found that with a 3 Ohm cartomizer, the eVic limits itself to 8.3W, which would put it around 5V output voltage, but it's really only running at around 4.8V... Incidentally, that lack of accuracy in voltage yields a power output of around 7.7W as opposed to 8.3W "as advertised" by the eVic control circuit. Perhaps this is a safety feature, but IMO that 5V limitation is HUGE... I'm sure there are plenty of vapers out there who would like to operate their 3 Ohm cartos a bit warmer than 8.3W, and certainly warmer than 7.7W if you consider the drop in actual voltage vs. what it should be operating at.
So between the two, I would go with the Vamo, as it has proven to be compatible with a wider array of attys / cartos, both low and high resistance, and can reach 12W output with stacked 18350's on a 3ohm coil @ 6V... That's a pretty warm vape, and should satisfy nearly all users.
Now, if all you're using are 2.0-2.5 Ohm coils in your cartos/attys, then maybe the eVic will work for you... But, for me, I want a device I can put any attachment I want on it, and be able to get the results I'm looking for, even if that attachment uses a coil that's 3 Ohms...
I'm surprised no one has mentioned the Ego Twist or Revolver/Uturn/Spinner. IMO that is a great way to move up, experience VV and it's only 3 or 4 times as heavy as a blu.
The list of good, moderately priced, vv and vw mods is growing quickly. Some have been mentioned on this thread.
If I were you, I'd buy a Twist and keep saving. Soon you will learn what features you most want in your next device and it just might be easier to choose.
The list of good, moderately priced, vv and vw mods is growing quickly. Some have been mentioned on this thread.
If I were you, I'd buy a Twist and keep saving. Soon you will learn what features you most want in your next device and it just might be easier to choose.
I have a twist already and now an Evic. Yeah, that's the way I decided to go, a big factor is because I was able to just go pick it up today and couldn't with the volt and it's pretty good so far. The features are okay. I don't know a whole bunch about the watts matching up with the volts etc but I put on my Vivi Nova and it tells me the Ohms are 2.8 and recommends the watts and volts for me. Let me tell you the hit compared to my twist is like night and day. Feels like I am getting a way better hit without as much effort and more nicotine now. Completely cig free here I come. Down to less than 5 a day already from a PAD+. I am sure most APVs would have gave me that though. I may use my Blu batteries to build a stand to hold my Evic 
. I already like only having to have one battery and being able to charge it through my usb as well as outlet all included. Plus it working as a pass through is cool. I appreciate the advice but the gottahaveitnow got me lol. Hope I don't end up with buyer's remorse lol.
. I already like only having to have one battery and being able to charge it through my usb as well as outlet all included. Plus it working as a pass through is cool. I appreciate the advice but the gottahaveitnow got me lol. Hope I don't end up with buyer's remorse lol.
Based on the photos you posted, and also what i know about companies, I see your point.
I would go with the first two.
Evic or MID
Could just be me, but the MID looks good, the vamp looks comical but the vic looks like something from an Ann Summers shop
Wattage matching from one load to the next? If you mean it automatically adjusts voltage output when switching from one resistance to another, yes it does that as of Ver 1.1.
I am using 1.5 ohm up to 3.0 ohm single coil cartos, clearos and rebuildables. 1.5 ohm dual coils as well.
I have been running mine 3.5V to 4.5V, and 7.8 watts to 8.5 watts most of the time.
I hate to become "one of those guys" and fuel this discussion but...
Most of the information wasn't based on an oscilloscopes, and those reviews were reporting all kinds of odd numbers including 2 amp limits and inconsistent voltage outputs. Neither is correct, which is pretty obvious after using it and has been verified by pbusardo and mountainprophet.de
That said, I agree with you completely. The eVic well not power higher resisted equipment. I can imagine running anything over 3 ohm on it but I have never owned such a device in the first place.
Anything Ovale branded was manufactured by Joye, just throwing that out there.
Vape on!
Just throwing this out there.... My initial impression of the VAMO, having just gotten it today.,... It does not look, or feel cheap in any way. A heavy, solid device.
From what I've heard about the eVic... I'm very glad I went with the VAMO. I'm not a big fan of when PVs are made more complicated than necessary. I defiantly do not give two doodles if it has software, and will opt for the device, without unnecessary software.
The VAMO is a powerhouse for sure. It has exceeded my expectations. The only concern is while the VAMO2 is meant to be an improvement there is a coil scare. You may want to pick up a spare coil (1-2$) in case you get a VAMO who has a hot coil issue. There is no giggle from batteries at all anymore. Even if I have to replace a coil, that's cool. It's not like I have to worry about a virus getting on my mod or some craziness with firmware in the future.
From what I've heard about the eVic... I'm very glad I went with the VAMO. I'm not a big fan of when PVs are made more complicated than necessary. I defiantly do not give two doodles if it has software, and will opt for the device, without unnecessary software.
The VAMO is a powerhouse for sure. It has exceeded my expectations. The only concern is while the VAMO2 is meant to be an improvement there is a coil scare. You may want to pick up a spare coil (1-2$) in case you get a VAMO who has a hot coil issue. There is no giggle from batteries at all anymore. Even if I have to replace a coil, that's cool. It's not like I have to worry about a virus getting on my mod or some craziness with firmware in the future.
I got the evic a couple of days ago and love it. I picked it up without any hesitation and my local shop. Do I need it? No. But it caught my eye. Haha anyway the firmware does have some bugs (yes I'm running v1.1) but I'm just hoping joyetech will continue to release improvements. That shouldn't be hard since I was a blackberry user for years and RIM wasn't the best at fixing their firmware
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Your friendly nor cal dude
Definitely a Vamo. It's much more reliable. If you're looking for something that's good looking, but half works, go for the Evic.
I have a Vamo..been using it for about 2 weeks now. Mine is the Stainless Steel version and this thing is solid!. Some how the eVic still catch my attention, probably because it looks more updated. Well if I have the extra cash I will get the eVic too but in the mean time I'm getting my Provari mini first
I'm trying to decide between the eVic and the Sigelei Z-Max. I'm leaning toward the Sigelei, as the reviews I've read seem to indicate it's better able to handle 1.5Ω carts, which is what I think I'm going to be using. Still, it's hard to pick between the current bunch (the Vamo is a strong contender too). If the Provari mini was a VW device, I might even spring for it, even though it's about twice as much.
I am tempted to go with the vamo. I keep seeing solid build in these posts and I am wondering about the maintenance and up keep, finish aside. I was considering a silver bullet for my first mod because its pretty much plug and play and built to last. Minimal maintenance if any on that device and with a kick I would have the VW that has caught my interests but the vamo seems like a better move. Can anyone fill me in on upkeep?
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