Confusion between the A (Amp) rating and the batteries "R" rating.

[Jim_ MDP]

In general, it doesn't matter if a battery is flat or button topped, UNLESS the manufacturer of the mod specifies you should use one or the other. For example, the older versions of the Provari required the use of button top batteries as that was their design to provide reverse battery protection.

Thanks.
I have no use for 18650s outside of mods, so I've never even seen a button top.
And all I've bothered to take notice of are a few posts of attempts to fit them in reg mods, ones I happen to own.
There was also mention of removing the button, but I have no idea if that's safe, or even possible.

 

[Baditude]

Thanks.
I have no use for 18650s outside of mods, so I've never even seen a button top.
And all I've bothered to take notice of are a few posts of attempts to fit them in reg mods, ones I happen to own.
There was also mention of removing the button, but I have no idea if that's safe, or even possible.

No reason to remove the button that I can think of, however I would never make any alterations to a battery as that would not be safe.

If someone is having issues with fitting a button top battery into a mod, they should simply buy flat top batteries. The vast majority of mods can fit either flat or button top batteries.

As stated previously, a few regulated mods required the use of button top batteries, such as the Provari 2.5. Using magnets or like devices in an attempt to convert flat top batteries into button top batteries would void the warranty as an unsafe battery practice.

Provari Mini and AW button top batteries

 

[Salt&PePPer]

OK so steer clear of efest. I've been seeing those VTC4's all over the place. But what mix are they IMR, ICR and isn't there an INR battery too?

I was looking through ebay for Lithium Ion Chargers and sometime they will throw in a few Batteries. For instance i saw a single slot battery charger that came with two 18650 6000 mAh batteries. I'm thinking they are crap!

Also on another subject Does ProVape make a Sub Ohm Device?

 

[KenD]

OK so steer clear of efest. I've been seeing those VTC4's all over the place. But what mix are they IMR, ICR and isn't there an INR battery too?

I was looking through ebay for Lithium Ion Chargers and sometime they will throw in a few Batteries. For instance i saw a single slot battery charger that came with two 18650 6000 mAh batteries. I'm thinking they are crap!

Also on another subject Does ProVape make a Sub Ohm Device?

The vtc4 (and most of the batteries we use actually) are hybrid safe chemistry batteries (nickel-manganese-cobalt, NMC). They combine the safety of pure IMR with the higher capacity of ICR. IMR stands for lithium manganese (round), INR for lithium-nickel (round), and Panasonic's NCR for nickel-cobalt (round). Those are hybrid chemistries. ICR is lithium-cobalt.

As for the batteries offered with the chargers you've looked at, they're probably unuseable for vaping with heavily overstated capacity ratings. I haven't seen any safe chemistry 18650s over 3500 mAh, and I don't think there are even any ICRs that come close to 6000 mAh (if there are I want those for my laptop battery pack).

Knock wood here that I got all of that right...

Provari... The P3 and the new Radius do subohm (.7 ohms for the P3 before the update, not sure how much now, .3 for the Radius), but are rather limited in wattage. 20w for the P3 and 40w for the Radius. With regulated devices there's no real point in going subohm, unless you're fond of tanks that have only prebuilt subohm coils (unless you use tc - which the Provari's don't do - in which case you are pretty much automatically below 1 ohm).

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[Salt&PePPer]

I want to finally go Sub Ohm after 3.5 years of vaping. And all I ever used was original eGo's, long dead, and at the moment a knock off eGo Twist with an Aspire top. And that is all I am using at the moment. I want to get a Subox Mini so I can get that Rebuildable Atomizer Head. What I don't get is why Kangertech doesn't include the same RBA with their Nano kit? I mean you use the same Atomizer Heads in the Mini and Nano Tanks then why doesn't the Nano come with the Rebuildable Atomizer?

But what's funny is how easy it is to rebuild the disposable Atomizer Heads. Easier to rebuild than the Kanger Tank Pro Atomizer Heads. Rip Trippers has an excellent Video on Youtube on how to rebuild the "NON" rebuildable slash disposable Kangertech Subox Atomizer heads!

 

[Jim_ MDP]

It won't fit... plain and simple.
The Nano is only 19mm diameter vs. the 22 or 23mm of the Mini and 25mm of the Plus/Original. If they made a Nano RBA that fit inside the cage, I'd buy one. Two more likely.

And the RBAs are different between the Plus and Mini as well. The upper chimney tube attached to the top cap is a different length, so they can't be swapped either.

 

[KenD]

Fasttech listed a Subtank Nano rba a couple of days ago. Kanger doesn't do rbas for the Nano, it's made by a third party. I don't think anyone has one yet so no info on how they'll actually work, but from the look of it the juice channels definitely need to be made bigger.

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[Jim_ MDP]

Interesting. You made me curious, found this...

$12.62 Replacement Nano RBA Coil Head for SUBTANK Clearomizer (5-Pack) 5-pack at FastTech - Worldwide Free Shipping

 

[KenD]

Interesting. You made me curious, found this...

$12.62 Replacement Nano RBA Coil Head for SUBTANK Clearomizer (5-Pack) 5-pack at FastTech - Worldwide Free Shipping

They also have them as singles, but they're obviously more expensive. $3.20 or something if I remember correctly. I don't use my Nanos much anymore, but I'll order one of these out of curiosity.

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[KenD]

Wrong thread

 

[Baditude]

I was looking through ebay for Lithium Ion Chargers and sometime they will throw in a few Batteries. For instance i saw a single slot battery charger that came with two 18650 6000 mAh batteries. I'm thinking they are crap!

Also on another subject Does ProVape make a Sub Ohm Device?

Ebay or Amazon would be the last places that I would purchase a battery from (even for free). A lot of suppliers sell fake or knockoff batteries, and Ebay suppliers often fall into this category.

An 18650 battery with 6000 mah is ridiculous. Don't believe it.

First of all, its likely the wrong chemistry (ICR) for a mod. You only want to use an IMR, INR (Samsung), or NCR (Panasonic); these are high-drain, safe-chemistry batteries.

There are plenty of resources to learn about the best batteries for a mod. @Mooch and myself @Baditude have written several blogs about this subject.

Battery Basics for Mods

Deeper Understanding of Mod Batteries

Picking a Safe Mod Battery

As already stated above, Provape makes the P3 and Radius regulated mods capable of sub-ohming.

 

[edyle]

Interesting. You made me curious, found this...

$12.62 Replacement Nano RBA Coil Head for SUBTANK Clearomizer (5-Pack) 5-pack at FastTech - Worldwide Free Shipping

YAY! thanks for finding that;
i'll try them out and see if they fit in my stplus

 

[Jim_ MDP]

I wouldn't get them expecting that to work, unless you do the research first.
I think it comes down to the different lengths of the chimney pipes.

They do look just like either the Plus or Mini decks though (I don't have a Mini) so I could easily be wrong.
Compare the measurements, if you can find them all.

If they ever show up domestically, I may grab a couple. Could be fun to have for the Nano, I've always likes the little bugger.