Note that this post contains revisions/additions to a previous post, and I'll be referring to this post from other threads. Basically, I now have experience with the common, inexpensive RN4081. Not just the Npro version of the RN4081. I've also added my experience with ecigs that both look llke a real cigarette, and more importantly to me, FEEL like a real cigarette. These observations are found at the end of this post.
After over four months of vaping and interacting with other forum participants, and having tried the ecigs I've listed at the end of this post, I am suggesting some questions for new ecig users to ask themselves prior to purchasing their first ecig. I will try to explain why the following questions are important to you, being as brief as possible:
1) Do I want to vape the best simulation of a real cigarette. Or do I want to vape more pleasant tasting flavors?
2) Do I want my ecig to FEEL like a real cigarette, not just look like one.
3) Do I wish to take short puffs or long draws?
4) Do I wish to use an automatic battery or a manual battery?
5) Can I put up with vapor occasionally burning my throat?
6) How tolerant is my stomach to the VG/PG and nicotine vapor?
7) How often do I wish to charge batteries?
I will compare two of my ecigs. The RN4081 (as in Npro) and the JOYE 510 (as in Totallaly wicked Titan). First the RN4081, which I consider to be an example of an ecig that delivers a dense cloud of vapor. The density of the vapor requires only a short puff to deliver a good hit. It works well with automatic batteries. It also results in better protection of the throat from irritation/burning. And more flavor for those who like the more pleasant juice flavors.
However, the dense cloud of vapor occurs because the vapor is more saturated with liquid than an ecig that delivers a less dense cloud of vapor. Unfortunately, the more saturated vapor results in more condensation of the vapor in the mouth, meaning more of the PG/VG and nicotine goes into the stomach than with a thin cloud of vapor. So an RN4081 user needs more tolerance to these stomach irritants in the juice. Some juices will cause more problems than others. And I believe juices attempting to simulate a real cigarette are among these stomach challenging juices.
Second, the JOYE 510, which I consider to be an example of an ecig that delivers a thin cloud of vapor. The thin cloud of vapor allows/requires long draws. The thin cloud means the vapor is less saturated with liquid. Less condensation occurs in the mouth, so less PG/VG and nicotine goes into the stomach than with a dense cloud of vapor. My first experience with dense vapor made me quite sick. Switching to VG did not help. Deceasing nicotine concentration did not help. I switched to the thin vapor of the 510 and no longer got sick. Not even when I tried very strong tobacco flavored juices. So I believe that generally, the thin cloud of vapor is better than the dense cloud of vapor when vaping tobacco flavored juices. Of course, I'm sure there are exceptions.
However, the thin cloud of vapor is dryer, meaning the vapor is more likely to irritate/burn the throat. Also, the long draw will probably require a manual battery. And as evident in the 510, the long draw will require more battery re-charging
Now about choosing an ecig that looks and feels like a real cigarette. I've found that all of the ecigs I've tried can be ordered so that they approximate the look of a real cigarette, including the JOYE 510, when it is ordered in white with the normal short battery.
However, I have found it more important to me that my ecig FEEL like a real cigarette. Both when it is my mouth and when it is in between my fingers. Factors such as finish, balance, shape and material used for the cartridge all play a roll in the feel of the ecig.
AND, of the ecigs I've tried, I think the RN4081 has the best FEEL of a real cigarette.
Good luck on your journey. I hope my experience and observations will help when choosing the right ecig for you.
Dave
After over four months of vaping and interacting with other forum participants, and having tried the ecigs I've listed at the end of this post, I am suggesting some questions for new ecig users to ask themselves prior to purchasing their first ecig. I will try to explain why the following questions are important to you, being as brief as possible:
1) Do I want to vape the best simulation of a real cigarette. Or do I want to vape more pleasant tasting flavors?
2) Do I want my ecig to FEEL like a real cigarette, not just look like one.
3) Do I wish to take short puffs or long draws?
4) Do I wish to use an automatic battery or a manual battery?
5) Can I put up with vapor occasionally burning my throat?
6) How tolerant is my stomach to the VG/PG and nicotine vapor?
7) How often do I wish to charge batteries?
I will compare two of my ecigs. The RN4081 (as in Npro) and the JOYE 510 (as in Totallaly wicked Titan). First the RN4081, which I consider to be an example of an ecig that delivers a dense cloud of vapor. The density of the vapor requires only a short puff to deliver a good hit. It works well with automatic batteries. It also results in better protection of the throat from irritation/burning. And more flavor for those who like the more pleasant juice flavors.
However, the dense cloud of vapor occurs because the vapor is more saturated with liquid than an ecig that delivers a less dense cloud of vapor. Unfortunately, the more saturated vapor results in more condensation of the vapor in the mouth, meaning more of the PG/VG and nicotine goes into the stomach than with a thin cloud of vapor. So an RN4081 user needs more tolerance to these stomach irritants in the juice. Some juices will cause more problems than others. And I believe juices attempting to simulate a real cigarette are among these stomach challenging juices.
Second, the JOYE 510, which I consider to be an example of an ecig that delivers a thin cloud of vapor. The thin cloud of vapor allows/requires long draws. The thin cloud means the vapor is less saturated with liquid. Less condensation occurs in the mouth, so less PG/VG and nicotine goes into the stomach than with a dense cloud of vapor. My first experience with dense vapor made me quite sick. Switching to VG did not help. Deceasing nicotine concentration did not help. I switched to the thin vapor of the 510 and no longer got sick. Not even when I tried very strong tobacco flavored juices. So I believe that generally, the thin cloud of vapor is better than the dense cloud of vapor when vaping tobacco flavored juices. Of course, I'm sure there are exceptions.
However, the thin cloud of vapor is dryer, meaning the vapor is more likely to irritate/burn the throat. Also, the long draw will probably require a manual battery. And as evident in the 510, the long draw will require more battery re-charging
Now about choosing an ecig that looks and feels like a real cigarette. I've found that all of the ecigs I've tried can be ordered so that they approximate the look of a real cigarette, including the JOYE 510, when it is ordered in white with the normal short battery.
However, I have found it more important to me that my ecig FEEL like a real cigarette. Both when it is my mouth and when it is in between my fingers. Factors such as finish, balance, shape and material used for the cartridge all play a roll in the feel of the ecig.
AND, of the ecigs I've tried, I think the RN4081 has the best FEEL of a real cigarette.
Good luck on your journey. I hope my experience and observations will help when choosing the right ecig for you.
Dave
