Consumer Reports too huh. They even used the mainstream media favorite, "sky-rocketing". American mainstream media continues to be a silly joke. They deserve nothing but ridicule. Abandon them. Don't support them. Let them fail and die.
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Yes, .......................................... If it doubled from 1 to 2 that is.
Odd thing, almost every bottle I have, excluding drip needle tips have child resistant caps.
Yet they said nothing about the 9000 children who are hospitalized each year because of poisonings by prescription drugs, which btw always come with child-proof packaging.
http://m.pediatrics.aappublications.org/lookup/doi/10.1542/peds.2014-0840
http://m.pediatrics.aappublications.org/lookup/doi/10.1542/peds.2014-0840
i for one am all for child proof caps as i have 5 grandkids to
help me remove the pesky things.
regards
mike
help me remove the pesky things.
regards
mike
I for one am kind of tired seeing "it's for the kids" articles left and right. I'm 38 years old, when I grew up I used a lawnmower, chain saw, pellet guns and wrist rocket. Used fire works, road a skateboard and bike without armor and GUESS WHAT.... I'M STILL ALIVE. At what point do we stop limiting our actions to protect everyone's kid, and start teaching parents how to PARENT again? I'm waiting for the day we bubble wrap kids at birth and store them in a clean bubble for 18 years, then wonder why they never "grew up" and can't take personal responsibility for their own actions. Sorry.. rant over.
You'll get used to it.
But don't fall for the hype that governments, people in power and most media outlets actually care about "children". Kids are merely a convenient tool used to pull the heart strings of the general populace for the sole purpose of implementing a broader agenda.
http ://www.komonews.com/news/local/Warning-to-Parents--Just-One-Mouthful-of-Liquid-Nicotine-in-Kids-is-Serious-275484471.html
Just for example I found this - Sept 2014 in Washington state.
"The total number of calls to the center about e-cigarettes is up 600 percent compared with recent years. Theres also a staggering increase in the number of kids exposed to serious levels of nicotine."
"So far this year 83 children have been over-exposed to liquid nicotine, compared with 50 exposures in 2013."
"And it's not just young ones who end up over-exposed to liquid nicotine. Month to month, the number of calls to the poison center have doubled, sometimes even tripled since 2012."
Again, 'calls' could be anything from 'what amount is dangerous?' 'What are the symptoms IF...?' 'What do I do IF....?'
And more importantly - Scare stories like this, likely generate more calls than any actual incidents. So I would be expecting the number of calls to go to even 5-10X "from 20XX year!!"
It has always had some 'slant' but Consumer Reports since about mid 1980's made a sharp Left turn toward activism - at which for me (dropping the subscription) ... the 'pros' of the actual consumer reporting/testing on goods were overweighed by the 'cons' - sometimes true cons of a different definition - on their opinions - where their subjectivity overwhelmed their objectivity.
I find Amazon ratings just as dependable - dropping the 5 stars as fanboys and girls and the 1 stars as competitors or fanboys and girls of the competitors - using the 2,3 and 4 star ratings as a fairly accurate and objective estimate. CNET close to the same but used to be better than it is now, imo.
Just for example I found this - Sept 2014 in Washington state.
"The total number of calls to the center about e-cigarettes is up 600 percent compared with recent years. Theres also a staggering increase in the number of kids exposed to serious levels of nicotine."
"So far this year 83 children have been over-exposed to liquid nicotine, compared with 50 exposures in 2013."
"And it's not just young ones who end up over-exposed to liquid nicotine. Month to month, the number of calls to the poison center have doubled, sometimes even tripled since 2012."
Again, 'calls' could be anything from 'what amount is dangerous?' 'What are the symptoms IF...?' 'What do I do IF....?'
And more importantly - Scare stories like this, likely generate more calls than any actual incidents. So I would be expecting the number of calls to go to even 5-10X "from 20XX year!!"
It has always had some 'slant' but Consumer Reports since about mid 1980's made a sharp Left turn toward activism - at which for me (dropping the subscription) ... the 'pros' of the actual consumer reporting/testing on goods were overweighed by the 'cons' - sometimes true cons of a different definition - on their opinions - where their subjectivity overwhelmed their objectivity.
I find Amazon ratings just as dependable - dropping the 5 stars as fanboys and girls and the 1 stars as competitors or fanboys and girls of the competitors - using the 2,3 and 4 star ratings as a fairly accurate and objective estimate. CNET close to the same but used to be better than it is now, imo.
I agree. Just waiting for the day more people see this. Funny, I used to think America was "Of the people, by the people, for the people".... Seem the "people" have become sheep..... And the government the wolves.
I tend to see this more NOW than I used too, due in part to the FDA. The FDA tells us that GMO's are ok to eat because they have "not been shown to be hazardous", while telling us e-cigs are bad because "they have not been proven safe". Aren't rules supposed to fit all situations? Seems to be double talk when groups like or dislike items for one reason or another ($$$).
I tend to see this more NOW than I used too, due in part to the FDA. The FDA tells us that GMO's are ok to eat because they have "not been shown to be hazardous", while telling us e-cigs are bad because "they have not been proven safe". Aren't rules supposed to fit all situations? Seems to be double talk when groups like or dislike items for one reason or another ($$$).
If the number of calls only doubled, month-to-month,
and they had only 1 call in Jan 2012
This would mean they now have over 2 million calls/month.
That's a crock.
wait for the figures to come in for 2014.
they will be magnitudes of order higher as
the ANTZ now know how effective they are
at getting media coverage.
and of course it will all be true.
regards
mike
they will be magnitudes of order higher as
the ANTZ now know how effective they are
at getting media coverage.
and of course it will all be true.
regards
mike
Kent, I pretty much rely on Amazon's ratings as well. I think I will tell Dad not to renew my subscription at Christmas anymore. Just give me an Amazon gift card, LOL
True you can make just about any argument with statistics and Consumer Reports are most definitely guilty of following the money.
Most juice bottles have child proof caps but tanks and RDAs do not and most leak somewhat if at least through the air holes. Also most RDA caps and drip tips simply pull off and are easily swallowed.
So there is some danger but control and prevention belongs to parents.
Most juice bottles have child proof caps but tanks and RDAs do not and most leak somewhat if at least through the air holes. Also most RDA caps and drip tips simply pull off and are easily swallowed.
So there is some danger but control and prevention belongs to parents.
That is A HUGE YES! They are using that angle, because I keep seeing more and more references in regards to this. Pathetic! I would have used other words, but seems they are using the advertising to children angle.
Absolutely agree!
Thing of it is, you are forgetting that the leftist mantra is "it takes a village" what they are not telling you is the villagers have torches and are very angry. Who are they angry with? whomever they are pointed at on a given day.
I stopped taking Consumer Reports seriously many years ago. I think they are on the take, can be had, are often had, then try and take us. A real shame but as most good ideas, regulatory and social programs they are soon .......ised by the power hungry and greedy.
Just because you survived all of the above, that doesn't mean that all kids did. The fact that I didn't have a car seat growing up and lived to tell about it, doesn't mean that kids didn't die needlessly and it doesn't mean that car seats aren't a good thing. All anyone is talking about is child-proof caps. If kids can be made more safe by simple means, I don't think we should decline because we somehow feel that not having our juice in whatever type of bottle we choose is an infringement of our rights. I'm sorry but when it comes to kids, I don't think there is an acceptable loss.
You'll get used to it.
But don't fall for the hype that governments, people in power and most media outlets actually care about "children". Kids are merely a convenient tool used to pull the heart strings of the general populace for the sole purpose of implementing a broader agenda.
Here we go with the sweeping generalization again. Assigning motivation to various, large groups of people that we don't know. I'm amazed at how some of you know what so many people think.
Logical Fallacies» Sweeping Generalisation Fallacy
Well sure, but that in itself does not make it any less true.
I am not a universal negative guy and just because something is BS and agenda driven does not mean an individual caught up in the movement does not care.
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