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[S_Steve]

Sorry I have not been on here much lately guys, I have not been feeling well. I am getting back to normal now and I would like to spark up some discussions about the FDA and all that junk. The more we talk about it, the more likely people are to actually get the facts. This is an interesting read. Comment on this and let me know what you think. This is the part that gets me " Dependence potential for pure nicotine is absent"

A winner will be chosen Friday Sept 19th
Thanks!

http://www.ecigarette-politics.com/chemical-dependency-and-nicotine.html

 

[spartanstew]

I never considered that people might be addicted to cigarettes because of something other than nicotine.

 

[Celestiiaa]

Wow! That was quite fascinating to read. I have to admit that I am one who never knew that everyone consumes and tests positive for nicotine. Or that it is used as a normal dietary ingredient. Thanks for starting this thread. It will be very interesting to see what others think of it.

 

[traderljp]

Wow, that is really interesting and surprising. Good stuff to know. I agree that even though its potential for dependence is about zero, that due to it's "mythical potential for dependence" this will be difficult to sell to those who don't want to hear it.

 

[celticluvr]

Huh. Interesting. Thank you for this opportunity.

 

[iota]

I have to admit, I was wondering if this was real or maybe it was an article from The Onion! I felt like if this is true, than how is this not common knowledge in our community. I agree with the point that this will be hard to tell someone about and expect them to believe it, because the myth of potential for dependence is so ingrained. This information must be put into the hands of our community's PR specialists! Thank you for bringing this to our attention and also thanks for the contest!

 

[jj2]

I never considered that people might be addicted to cigarettes because of something other than nicotine.

There's a list a mile long of things they "add" and none are good and basically added to keep you addicted.

 

[Wraith504]

There's a list a mile long of things they "add" and none are good and basically added to keep you addicted.

Like gun powder, arsenic, cyanide, boric acid, embalming fluid, strychnine.... who knows what else!

 

[jj2]

Like gun powder, arsenic, cyanide, boric acid, embalming fluid, strychnine.... who knows what else!

Well cigs will kill ya. If not the smoke than all that stuff! 8-o

 

[TamiPac]

I have to say, I'm not surprised. Seven months ago we changed our diets to 100% organic and GMO free due to an extensive amount of research we have done. It boggles the mind how much incorrect information is spread to the public in the interest of commerce. With the change of diet came the desire to do away with cigarettes not because of the nicotine but because of the added chemical factors. First we tried organic cigarettes but really wanted to get into vaping. Difficult when all you know about it is BLU! Finally found this forum and learned enough to get started.

Five of us in the family have put down cigarettes for good, first day vaping, no cheaters. I believe, and have for some time now, that what was needed was the action of smoking including inhaling something along with the social aspect. I smoked for 39 years and quit the first day of vaping. Tobacco addiction? I don't think so. Bad habit? Absolutely! (At least for us)

Now, I realize all people are wired differently and some have a more addictive make up than others but I wish everyone would take responsibility for their own health, think outside the box and read, read, read! One cannot make an informed decision without comparing a signifigant amout of research. It is confusing and frustrating but the government certainly isn't looking out for the average Joe, we need to do it ourselves.

The article you shared was a fantastic read and I really appreciate you putting it up for us all to have the opportunity to enlarge our minds. I will have to do quite a bit more research before I buy into it 100% but it gives me a place to start.

 

[standinthestars]

Maybe this is why I decreased the amount of nicotine that I vaped so easily and quickly. Not that I really needed to (or wanted to for that matter) - it just sort of happened naturally. Reading this article was a bit of a revelation on the subject. Now I am wondering just what in the world I was so addicted to when I smoked? Additives?

Great topic for a thread and I look forward to hearing others' thoughts as well. Thank you for the contest too

 

[jj2]

Maybe this is why I decreased the amount of nicotine that I vaped so easily and quickly. Not that I really needed to (or wanted to for that matter) - it just sort of happened naturally. Reading this article was a bit of a revelation on the subject. Now I am wondering just what in the world I was so addicted to when I smoked? Additives?

Great topic for a thread and I look forward to hearing others' thoughts as well. Thank you for the contest too

For the last few years that I smoked, I use an external filter on my cigs. You wouldn't believe the junk it collected. I think this made it easier for me when I made the switch.

 

[Wraith504]

Maybe this is why I decreased the amount of nicotine that I vaped so easily and quickly. Not that I really needed to (or wanted to for that matter) - it just sort of happened naturally. Reading this article was a bit of a revelation on the subject. Now I am wondering just what in the world I was so addicted to when I smoked? Additives?

Great topic for a thread and I look forward to hearing others' thoughts as well. Thank you for the contest too

See my list a few posts back! LOL.

 

[Wraith504]

For the last few years that I smoked, I use an external filter on my cigs. You wouldn't believe the junk it collected. I think this made it easier for me when I made the switch.

I used some of those little clear thingies too. Made me feel better about sucking the cancer sticks down like they werent as bad for me.

 

[jj2]

I used some of those little clear thingies too. Made me feel better about sucking the cancer sticks down like they werent as bad for me.

Made you really think about what was in them!!!!

 

[puckhead]

This is another really good, and much less repetitive, article on the myths and benefits of nicotine:

Nicotine, the Wonder Drug? | DiscoverMagazine.com

From the article:

Perhaps most surprising is that, in studies by Boyd and others, nicotine has not caused addiction or withdrawal when used to treat disease. These findings fly in the face of nicotine’s reputation as one of the most addictive substances known, but it’s a reputation built on myth. Tobacco may well be as addictive as ......, as some have claimed. But as scientists know, getting mice or other animals hooked on nicotine alone is dauntingly difficult. As a 2007 paper in the journal Neuropharmacology put it: “Tobacco use has one of the highest rates of addiction of any abused drug.” Paradoxically it’s almost impossible to get laboratory animals hooked on pure nicotine, though it has a mildly pleasant effect.

I have long suspected it was much more than the nicotine that made me crave a cigarette.

 

[rbeckys8]

I think if California had cigs banned then it would be better than the UK because we might believe it more..maybe even just a town..just pretending here..remember the movie of a town that did that..they all wanted to kill each other...... you never know..

 

[thehangdude]

I started at 18mg and went up to 24mg because I like the flavor and throat hit of the higher nic. The funny thing is I don't feel as addicted to vaping, and often go hours without even thinking about it.

I vape because I enjoy vaping. I have no desire to quit. If I am forced (by the feds) to quit vaping, or if it gets too expensive, I have enough nic to taper down. From what I've read here on ecf, tapering down is WAY easier than quiting smoking.

 

[Heden Aklowd]

A lot of interesting info. Thanks for sharing it with us.

 

[Stacy1]

I'm not 100% sure on this but seems like I recall that one of the main reasons that BT lost the huge class action suit some years back was because it was determined that they were purposely and knowingly putting stuff in cigarettes that was addictive. I don't recall what additives or chemicals were brought to light but it wasn't nicotine that all the fuss was made over. I've been up all night and heading to bed, but I will do some research on the law suit and see what I can find on it.