Cool Fire 4 VS Kanger Subox mini VS VIP SKystorm VS Joytech Evic VTC MINI

[Hotwire]

I'm vaping zero nic spacejam eclipse. Compared to an ego with juice at 11mg this is hands down better. Don't even need the nic the vape is so flavourful and warm.

So what differences should I notice / expect between the .5 coil at higher watss and the 1.2 coil at lower watts? it's all a little confusing but I'll try the 1,2 one when the .5 runs out.

 

[Hotwire]

I realized why sub ohmer's and people with VV/VW don't often vape tobacco flavors now. This set up basically can put out so much flavour, it feels silly trying to replicate a stinky. I never thought I'd say it but I might be venturing into fruity flavours.... My co-worker vapes a 'Jolly Rancher' flavour and said I should try it, I was like 'nah not into that stuff' basically because on an ego they're all airy and whispy.... On this set up I reckon it would be really nice.

But then I might as well just suck a boiled sweet...

I've bought a good enough set up to have me not have to keep on chasing decent vapour, new tanks, new juices etc, this just works. So then I realize I'm kicking one habbit and potentially starting up a whole new one.

I don't really want a new one. I honestly feel I vape for flavour and quality of the vapour. I could get the same feeling actually having some Jolly Rancher's in my pocket to suck on throughout the day.

In fact I was using lockets every time I craved cigarette before (cough lozenges in the UK very strong lemon flavour with honey inside) and that was working for me, substituting one intense mouth and throat experience for another.

I just spent £80 on something (bought £20 of Sacejam) I doubt I'll rarely use..... Ah well can always use to kill emergency cig cravings and social situations... Can pass it on as a present or sell it for half price probably... Will swap one 15ml unopened bottle of spcejam for a fruity / intense flavor

Hey ho.

Gist if it is -you want close to a cigarette or cigar experince - sub ohming at higher watts with big ariflow is the way to go. Only thing is it so closely replicates smoking, I started to think, honestly what's the point....

Anyway highly recommend the CF4 and Subtank nano for people struggling with ego's and the type, sometimes getting good vape, sometimes not. The quality on both of these is outstanding engineering and design and the vape is just pure warmth (not hot, not burnt) and massive flavour....

As for me, I doubt I'll use it much outside of social use, the flavour is so good you really might as well suck on a boiled sweet you like.

It was never about nicotine for me, so again, vaping zero nic - might as well suck on some nice boiled sweets really.

 

[Hotwire]

That said, it is morning coffee before work time now. I could do / wouldn't mind a 3mg nic buzz and stimlating menthol / candy flavour before work. Don't NEED it but if was going to keep vaping, that would be what I wanted in daytime and then kanger/CF4 with strong tobacco set up just as emergency go to if have strong nic cravings if stressful situation breaks out in daily life etc..... Yeah will trade in one bottle of spacejam eclipse for a non tobacco flavour at 3mg for mornings maybe and then obviously need a new tank for Spacejam eclipse if get cig cravings... Tht means more money on a second tank.... Dah.... I think I'll get an iSub they're only about £15 and lots of people seem to like them a lot. Not the quality of the Subtank Nano I doubt, but will do okay....

Can I put an EVOD on my Coolfire 4? A strong fruit / candy flavour on an evod at 6mg for the morning to save money for a second tank.....

Not sure.... All I know is pointless vaping Spacejam Eclipse at 30 Watts as it just feels like smoking and I don't want that anymore.

 

[Toronnah]

CF4 is garbage. First lasted a week. Second lasted a month (with about a weeks worth of use). And they were genuine, not knockoffs.

 

[Hotwire]

The shop is next to my work so if it breaks I'll get a return.

 

[herb]

sure it can be built like a tank on the outside, but does that mean it will be a long lasting device? it's what's in the inside that counts..
i will say that many users including myself have dropped itaste devices in the past and one drop = dead device.. the itaste vv is plagued by this problem.

just because you're getting good battery life ATM, doesn't mean it will be like that 6+ months later after a hundred of charges.. whereas a removable battery you can just put in a new one.

there is really no difference between the safety of charging a 18650 inside the device...it's more about the quality of the battery and making sure it's a protected cell. plus you can use an external charger and just put in a new one on the go. can't do that with your built in battery. besides, what kind of battery do you think it has built in? it's most likely a 18XXX cell.. nothing beats the ability to just remove the battery and pop in a fully charged one. innokin realizes this mistake and from what i can tell and read, they're thinking (or already working on) a CF V2 which will have that removable 18650 people want.



Uhm ok.. Joytech and Kanger have been around for years and were the first few to basically create all the devices we see today. almost all of the ecig devices, including ALL of the clones coming out today are inspired by these two companies, Joyetech and Kanger.
I'm not discrediting innokin, because i own several of their devices.. but to say the Cool Fire is a better device because it's made out of metal is just BS. as that saying goes.. you can't judge a book by it's cover..its what's in the inside that counts and it think both Kanger and Joyetech excel in this area..

cheers.

I never said the Coolfire was a better device because it's made of metal , i said Innokin has proven to make superior mods to the two you mention , Joytech (Eleaf) devices have much higher failure rates than Innokin and both have proven to schill their own products on numerous forums ( Reddit) just one of many .

Even Phil Busardo said in the comments section of his review of the Coolfire 4 on You Tube that Innokin is at the pinnacle of engineering and building mods with safety in mind while Eleaf in particular was at the very bottom .

Kanger has virtually ZERO experience in building mods compared to Innokin , they have a lot of experience in building tanks and accessories but not mods and only have the Kbox and Sub box etc as far as experience to fall back on .

Innokin is far far more experienced in that field .

 

[Hotwire]

I've got it all worked out now. In the morning and daytime (especially after waking with first coffee of the day) I need just ego with c tank or EVOD with RY4 or menthol with nic at 6mg. I do need the nic hit.

Then in the evening I need the CF4 with subtank nano and zero nic juice for the fuller feeling of getting rid of the cig craving. If I vape nic after 6pm I get too stimulated. So just need to buy an evod or two now for my good old ego battery and some 6mg juices to go in each one.

In an ideal world I'd neither vape nor smoke and perhaps further down the line in less stressful times (stuff at home at the moment) I won't but for no when the cravings come I know what to go to now and what set up to go to at the right time to work for me.

 

[Capt.shay]

Well, you know that you can just put the 510 to ego connector that came with your CFIV on, turn your Volts/Watts down and vape away on the Evod. In very short time you will find the right voltage that matches the vape you get from the ego (roughly 3.6-4.0 volts). In the evening screw on the sub tank, crank up the volts and vape away. But, don't bin the ego's because you have to have backups!

In a ideal world...yea, well this isn't one! Progress, not perfection is my goal and I am certain that vaping is progress. Quality equipment has definitely helped me on my way.

Best of luck to you!

 

[Hotwire]

I agree, progress rather than perfection. Spot on Capt. Shay.

I went to vape store today and got an evod, and he said with the ego connector that came with the CF4 I can just swap tanks like you said. Just go into VV mode and not go over 4.2 VOlts or 8 watts for the EVOD, but best to use VV modes rather than watts for it, he said.

Tbh I'm currently vaping my morning RY4 6mg on a 3 yr old ego-c atty that has been used on and off over the years. Only just wearing down lol. Good old JANTY quality. Evods give a bit more punch to the juice I find so will give that a run and see how it goes, probably on the 650mah ego batty as good and small for work, though always found the ego C set up best for non leakage and ease of use and 1ml per day is enough for me....

 

[Capt.shay]

Volts or Watts makes no matter, they both do the same exact thing, just different ways of measuring the output of electricity. When I started vaping, everything was volts so I tend to think that way but it is all the same. If you want an ego style battery that has many of the features of the cool fire then see if you can find a Innokin VV3 (same company as the CF). They have been superseded by the VV4 but they are still some of the older VV3's around here in the states and I like them better. They are a fantastic little mod and I use them almost every day at work. I am a landscaper and the little VV3 is my carry rig when I am on the machines.

Again, best of luck and stay off the stinkies!

 

[Hotwire]

I'm using the evod on the ego battery. Like I said I'm a light vaper so an ego fully charged lasts me a few days. The evods are good. much better than the old ego-c, which while not bad for it's day I must admit is past it's prime now and a thing of the past. Props for being the first direct tank with juice straight to the atty tank system, but evods produce more cape and flavour....

 

[DanJiblets]

I love the Coolfire 4 enough that I now own 3. It's my favorite as far as design and comfort, and I've had literally no issues. I have the Evic VTC mini on the way. I'm going to only buy mods with replaceable batteries from now on. I like the ease of not worrying about batteries, but honestly it's not convenient anymore since I end up having to charge 2-3 devices a day. I need about 6000 mah battery life for a day, I vape quite a bit. I'd rather swap batteries throughout the day and toss them on the charger at night.

 

[Hotwire]

Do you know of a good RY4 or caramel tobacco type juice that is good for the .5 ohm vaping at 30 watts?

I have Spacejam Eclipse but would like that blend of caramel and tobacco a good RY4 gives... Or something close to it...

 

[Hotwire]

Vaped a tank of Spacejam Eclipse on the subox nano and refilled and halfway through another. No leaking, great flavour, huge dense clouds. So far, so good.

I seem to have got accustomed to 30W now though and have needed 35 watts tonight to keep from lighting up tobacco as felt 30W was no longer warm enough.

I wonder if this is natural adaptation or due to the colder weather? Like in Summer would 30W vape feel hotter than in winter?

After ten vapes at 35W though I am now back down to 30W and satisfied. I am glad I found these variable mods, they really are night and day for someone like me for whom it's not about the nicotine but the feel of the vapour...

If due to winter kicking in though, I forsee me going up to around a 50-70 W capable mod and perhaps .2 ohms....

Or maybe hitting a few hot 35W hits and then lowering will keep me happy.

That's at night time, daytime I'm happy with my EVOD as in the daytime it's about a mild nic buzz and milder flavour.

 

[Hotwire]

Man I'm loving this vape right now lol

 

[DanJiblets]

Do you know of a good RY4 or caramel tobacco type juice that is good for the .5 ohm vaping at 30 watts?

I have Spacejam Eclipse but would like that blend of caramel and tobacco a good RY4 gives... Or something close to it...

I love Charlie Noble Pistachio RY4 and G2 CarnY4.