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Shortstuff116

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I'm a newbie, it's been two full weeks since my first vape and stopped smoking after 36+ years instantly. I started out with a KR808D-1 kit and have since purchased and now use my Joye 510 and loving every single vape I take.

I don't know about anyone elses neighborhood, town or city, but here in southern MA I have never seen or heard of anyone else who uses one of these PV's. Perhaps there are some who don't want to be seen in public with them, but I have yet to see another one.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but around here there is not one single law, bylaw or anything else regulating the use or possession of my PV. They are NOT illegal here. I have every right to own and use my PV and no matter who says what, I can legally vape anytime and anywhere I want to. Am I right? Yes I have heard of many places throughout the country where they actually have been banned, but not around here.

Look, I am not a self-righteous, stubborn SOB. But after all my years of being shunned and ridiculed and told and ordered when and where I can smoke analogs, I refuse to let anyone tell me I cannot vape - there are no laws/legislation that says I cannot. I do not and will not vape just to intentionally draw attention or start any unecessary trouble. But as I have several times already, I will explain and demonstrate to anyone including business owners/managers exactly what it is I have and why I use it, and that there is no evidence that I know of that there is one single cancer causing chemical involved. I'm not harming myself or anyone else around me. But if the owner/manager asks or tells me he or she would rather I did not use it in their establishment, I would gladly and willingly adhere to their request. They do have the right to refuse admittance or service to anyone they so please.

PV's are a relatively new and unheard/unseen novelty right now in many, many places and I get that, I understand it. I just don't like to read so many stories of members who are really afraid to use it in public, you have no reason to be. If I am refused entrance to some place just because I have it in my possession, fine, I'll put it in my car but they have absolutely no right to take it from me, it is not illegal.

What do you think?

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beckah54

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I just use mine in the designated smoking area because I haven't seen anyone else in my area use an ecig. I don't want to go through the hassle of explaining them to a nonsmoker. I find I can go longer without needing the nicotine than I could when I smoked ananlogs.
I think if you are respectful and ask permission, there should be no problem. They aren't illegal yet so enjoy it while you can.
 

lunaras

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The way I understand it is that in most states (maybe all, I'm not sure), a business has the right to refuse service to anyone for any reason as long as it's not something protected like race or sex. So if they have a problem with you vaping in their establishment they can ask you to stop or leave, just like a smoker. However, public place are a different matter and laws on smoking don't generally apply to vaping. So regulations stating that you must be 15+ from any door when smoking don't prevent you from vaping on the doorstep etc.

Not a lawyer, so just my 2 cents.
 

redrhino

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I don't vape in non smoking areas. Mainly because it gives the appearance of smoking. Even people that can't smell the smoke will look and complain.
If I am in a restrauant people across the room will complain. There are just too many people to explain to.

Yes Martha I totally agree:thumb: Has happened to me on a few occasions...I don't even bother anymore i just go outside...
 
Correct me if I'm wrong, but around here there is not one single law, bylaw or anything else regulating the use or possession of my PV. They are NOT illegal here. I have every right to own and use my PV and no matter who says what, I can legally vape anytime and anywhere I want to. Am I right? Yes I have heard of many places throughout the country where they actually have been banned, but not around here.


A Preface ...

I am not a lawyer. My opinion is worth the bandwith it's carried on. That said ...

The US is (supposed to be) a free society, and the concept at the heart of that means that you are free to do as you wish unless it is explicitely made illegal by law, ordninance, etc. etc. etc. Basically, our legislative bodies should only be making things illegal as opposing to enforcing the legality of things. So unless there is a law in your town or state prohibiting you from using an electronic cigarette or similar device you *should* be okay.

That said, on private property, you are still subject to the whims and wishes of the property owner.
 

anim8r

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It's gotten to the point now that people ASK me to vape in front of them :D

They hear from one person or another that I have this cool electronic vaporator-thingy and they show up in my office or catch me in the hall just to see me use it. They even PURPOSELY STICK their heads in the cloud of vapor to smell it.

I'm have a crazy fun time with these things :)
 
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