Is there any current or future technology which could allow a long lasting mini?
Could a 1000 mA mini ever exist?
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certainly it could. but i would think its a long way off. the wet or dry cell battery is by no means new technology. All that has really changed in recent years is the use of new metals that hold/ deliver charges better. Size being the issue, its likely a long , long way off.
I think we may be surprised in a couple of years as the auto industry is spending a lot of dollars on battery technology for electric cars. With governments around the world cutting CO2 emissions they are being pushed hard to come up with something that the public will buy. They have the same requirements as we do, high drain, long life and low weight just on a bigger scale.
I wouldn't even hazard a guess as to when the next generation of battery happens. On one hand, technology moves at an extremely rapid rate these days, and nano technology is showing itself more and more. On the other hand, the next leap is going to take exactly that to happen, a leap. We're pretty close to the limit of what we can do with the way batteries work so something completely different will have to be realized.
The good news is it's not just ecigs that are pining for a smaller, longer lasting battery. Cell phones, computers, electric cars.. and on and on. I hope I get to see the day of charging my phone once a week and a 1000 mah cig-a-like. Even better, 1000 mah with variable voltage. That's a lot to fit in the size of a smoke.
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The good news is it's not just ecigs that are pining for a smaller, longer lasting battery. Cell phones, computers, electric cars.. and on and on. I hope I get to see the day of charging my phone once a week and a 1000 mah cig-a-like. Even better, 1000 mah with variable voltage. That's a lot to fit in the size of a smoke.
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I agree with the other posters that current battery technology simply won't allow a mini that will give all day runtimes. But I also believe that it may not be the entire answer to the problem. Heating coils don't heat up or cool down instanteously so a circuit that would allow pulsing the electrical current could decrease current draw and still give the same end result. Unfortunately I don't have the electronics background to design such a circuit, but perhaps we'll see it in the near future.
Yes. But you will still be refilling that 0.5 ml cartomizer every twenty minutes or so.
very few ecig mods make use of lipo batterys they have a more compact design with higher capacity but the downside is they are alot more volatile and have a higher risk of venting/exploding, they are primarily used in RC cars/plains and heli's and while i have thought of trying one in a mod i have had one burn up in a rc car and all i can say is i would NOT want that to happen in my pocket or in my face lol.
hopefully they will be able to find a safer high strength and capacity rechargeable cell here soon but as far as i know there is nothing new coming anytime soon.
hopefully they will be able to find a safer high strength and capacity rechargeable cell here soon but as far as i know there is nothing new coming anytime soon.
Yeah that is just where the trouble starts. Easy enough to be switching to fresh batteries pesky to be refilling all day long.
This is already in play with all of the "Pulse Width Modulation" mods.
Every Cig-a-like and eGo type use a LiPo battery. Also every cell phone, tablet, and e-reader uses LiPo. For the most part, the most dangerous thing about a battery is the user. In the "envelope pushing" world of RC, it is no surprise that they get a bad rap. But it's mostly due to the high stress and abuse that they are subject to.
Yes, but the application of PWM in the e-cig industry is still in it's early stages and will take some time to get efficient and accurate designs into affordable products.
As to the battery technology strides, I agree with others that it's an unknown at this point. Many industries are researching alternative battery materials and advanced capacitor technology to advance power storage and delivery. Portable electronics, electric transportation, alternative energy solutions, these all could benefit from advances in this field and they're all working toward making it happen in one way or another.
I use big batteries and have a VV mod. It's been 1 year and 9 months for me and I truly did not desire a cig-a-like for most of this time. Lately, though, I have found myself wishing I had a small cig-sized model with an automatic battery that could deliver the battery life and voltage I need. I hope one day they do!
I have a few mods...and oh would I love a mini that lasted longer and ran at 3.7.
I prefer to drip so re-filling is a non issue.
It's simply the size factor of my 510s that is so appealing, I still pull them out occasionally to use.
I would also love to see a 1000mAh 14500 battery !!
I prefer to drip so re-filling is a non issue.
It's simply the size factor of my 510s that is so appealing, I still pull them out occasionally to use.
I would also love to see a 1000mAh 14500 battery !!
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Uh.....what? My cell and my tablet use Li-ion batteries, and unless I missed something, joye uses Sanyo li-ions in their egos.
Maybe with lithium-air batteries. But that technology won't be produced on a mass-scale till probably around 2020-2025 lol.
Lithium-Ion is a "family" of different battery types. Within the family you have Li-Cobalt, Li-Manganese, Li-Posphate, and many more. These are just the chemistry makeup of the cells. You also have different formats; solvent filled (usually metal cased round cells) and solid polymer (pouch or hard plastic cased). You can have any of the chemistries in either format.
The ones that I have taken apart were not Sanyo cells (I don't think Sanyo does much in polymer cells), and I can't speak to the specific chemistry, but the eGo batts a definitely Li-Ion, and definitely a round Li-Polymer pouch cell.
My kGo had one of these...
e-cigarette cylindrical lithium battery,View E-cigarette li battery,HGB Product Details from Zhuhai Hange Battery Tech. Co., Ltd. on Alibaba.com
The ones that I have taken apart were not Sanyo cells (I don't think Sanyo does much in polymer cells), and I can't speak to the specific chemistry, but the eGo batts a definitely Li-Ion, and definitely a round Li-Polymer pouch cell.
My kGo had one of these...
e-cigarette cylindrical lithium battery,View E-cigarette li battery,HGB Product Details from Zhuhai Hange Battery Tech. Co., Ltd. on Alibaba.com
I think so, the 650mAh have multiple sizes and a few of them are already pretty small
no actually e-cig cells are "lithium ion" batterys where as the rc have higher density "lithium polymer" battery's while they both contain lithium the rest of the ingredients are totally different the lipo's have a much much higher amperage output like 50 amps were as good li-ion like AW imrs can only put out a max of 10 amps. also the chemistry inside of lipos make them to unsafe to be used in e-cig's and are much more hazardous to charge and discharge, tho to date i have only seen one box mod use them but in a sealed aluminum case.
also laptops,tablets,cell phones all use li-ion. As far as i have seen li-poly batterys are only used in devices were they will be away from the consumer like RC vehicles
also to note lipolys are always easy to spot as they never have a hard casing on them because of there tendency to explode and the casing would be a hazard, they come in a silver air tight vacuum sealed soft bag one rip in the bag and they pop from exposure to air.
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i subscribe to a newletter called the Kiplinger Letter that is primarily a financial forcast newsletter, but they dip into other types of forecasts as well- technology being one of them. the last report had news of a new type of chemistry for smaller, more long lasting batteries. they are movign away from lithium, toward yttrium and magnesium.
its really quite a big deal. theyre calling it the "the moon landing of battery research"
apparently a new partnership between the Dept of Energy, university researchers, and private firms has been developed. theyre spendign $120M over the next 5 years.
of course the primary focus is on autos, but renewable power and electronics industires will also benefit from the research.
its really quite a big deal. theyre calling it the "the moon landing of battery research"
apparently a new partnership between the Dept of Energy, university researchers, and private firms has been developed. theyre spendign $120M over the next 5 years.
of course the primary focus is on autos, but renewable power and electronics industires will also benefit from the research.
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