Counterfeit Aspire Nautilus

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Vulcano

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Hello Everybody...

I got these days an Aspire nautilus that I got form eBay, I bought it thinking it was a genuine nautilus, but it is a knockoff...

I got it for $20 bucks, and it works like a nautilus, but it is not one...

What would you do in my place? Get the money back? Enjoy it? any other option?

Just wondering what to do!

Thank you!
 

Katfu37

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So sorry! This happened to me with a mini protank 2. i ended up getting a refund. Was it advertised as authentic? If so I would attempt to contact the seller to resolve the issue and you can also file disputes with paypal and ebay. It really depends on your preference. If it works well and you are happy then don't bother.


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Vulcano

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If it is new and selling below market value, it's a pretty good bet it's a counterfeit... Especially on eBay.

one thing I learned on ebay if it's to good of a price to be true it's probably bogus

I know that, but as I already got one, authentic, at $21 the $20 sounded "normal"...but I know there is always a risk
 

Vulcano

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I used a site called bonanza which is similar to ebay and filed a dispute, got my money back and got to keep my mini pt2 clone. They work just fine, though I don't have an authentic to compare it to. I hope you get your money back!

I never heard before about Bonanza, but now that you mentioned it, I went to that site, and the first Nautilus listed, is from the same seller that I got my Nautilus from in eBay....

Not sure if I should laugh or cry....LOL
 
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Vulcano

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I'm wondering where the coil heads in the box came from. If they work well and last a week or more, lots of us would like to know about the alternative manufacturer. Aspire has introduced a new design that gets rave reviews, but the old ones last a day at best if you happen to have the defective ones.

I filled the thank and used for 30 minutes before discovering it was a counterfeit, not sure if keep using it, or cleaning it in case they ask for it...

But using a MVP 2.0 the Ohm reading that I got in a period of 5 minutes was 4, 2.5, 1.8 in a 1.6 coil
 
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I filled the thank and used for 30 minutes before discovering it was a counterfeit, not sure if keep using it, or cleaning it in case they ask for it...

But using a MVP 2.0 the Ohm reading that I got in a period of 5 minutes was 4, 2.5, 1.8 in a 1.6 coil

Aspire and Kanger both use coils with soldered legs that are non-resistive with a resistive coil in the center. That keeps heat from burning the post insulator grommet that holds the center pin in place at the bottom of the atomizer. What I experienced over and over was the solder joints breaking down and driving the resistance up as I vaped on a coil. I'd have to push the voltage up and up until the flavor just died away.

When I'd pull the pin and the grommet to recoil, most of the time one leg had pulled away leaving the coil disconnected from the leg leading the to pin. You could see the hole in the solder where the wire came loose. It's supposed to be silver solder. Either they are producing cold joints or the solder is subgrade and breaking down under heat. I'd hate to think that it might be Chinese lead solder, but I have no way to test it.

I continue to wonder why they don't use welded wires. It's quick and cheap and requires no solder. It's just a capacitive welding process that uses an arc that drains the capacitor and then it recharges. There are guys on YouTube making their own welded wires using parts from a cheap flash camera sold in drug stores.
 
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Katfu37

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I never heard before about Bonanza, but now that you mentioned it, I went to that site, and the first Nautilus listed, is from the same seller that I got my Nautilus from in eBay....

Not sure if I should laugh or cry....LOL

My whole thing is, if its a clone, advertise it as a clone. There's nothing wrong with using a clone that works. Unless they provide you with prepaid shipping, don't send it back because you should not have to pay for shipping because of their false advertisement! Can you PM the user name?


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if it works like the real deal and i heard they are the best then id keep it and not go through the whole process and end up paying more anyway for the real deal..but it is good at least that you put in the petition to ebay in case it breaks or w.e... the comment about being able to keep the item if it isn't authentic i wonder what ebay's judgment will be on that one.
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